Does God Exist??
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
one reply . Yes, see all the wonderful things on earth, ask yourself one question, where it comes from, you will trace them in this route most probably
- Item on earth
- clay
- earth
- big bang
or
- animal on earth
- mother
You cannot trace any more from here, so who created them, such as mother and big bang, it is GOD.
According to Gensis Chapter 1 verse 1-7, god created them.
And please do not say is other gods on earth
According to the bible and is quite true also in normal thinking
Buddist gods have eyes but cannot talk, ears which cannot hear and this go on and on
Islamic reglion is just a copy cat of christianity such as all the names in the bible had been changed to some muslim names only, the places between the bible and the quaram is similar, if not indentical, and is islam started frist or the belief of christianity, whcih is always exsistance, first.
So, pals, let's us seriously think of whether god exsisted is a valid question, he created all of us, as well as this forum, the LCD/CRT screen that u are seeing this post.
If you do not still belief, ask yourself another question, how does the big bang occur and how big is the universe, it is what cretainly scientist cannot answer them, but bible, words of god can answer them, sich as big bang is similar to Genises Chap 1 verse 1-8 let there be light and so on explains big bang wisely, as well as how big is the universe, gods say that it was as big as the scope of him.
And i know that many would be puzzling is god really exsisting and who created him.
I had an explaination, god is not a person for us to gage, his wisdom is bigger than what all of us can put in, and he is the everlasting, we need to connect to him and gain enlightenment in how is really GOD through prayers and so on
So, GOD is exsisting. PM me if you got any more doubts of his exsistance.
tell me den
why does jesus has to be god's son?
since god is so all mightiful, for wad reason does he nids a son?
if u going to give me shit that he created jesus to be his messenger, cant he just create him like dat and not by the process of giving birth by "virgin mary"
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Originally posted by A.T.R:
who made the bible?it is the words of God, god asked his prophets to write down these words for us to attain salvation
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since god is so all mightiful, for wad reason does he nids a son?
u got that right
btw atr i was refferring to sbs
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Originally posted by mancha:
Oi! let God guide you, not laurence82.
God should serve as a guide for you live by. God is not an Alladin for you to make requests.
ha ha ha
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Originally posted by Afrasastrasz:
islam did not copy christianity its the people who changed god's book into the bible.The Quran is sent down by god.U associate god with a human?U say that he has a son?NOnsense.Bullshit it is.Christians are clearly misguided people.
God did have a son, he send his beloved son jesus down on the earth to take away the sins of us....
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
it is the words of God, god asked his prophets to write down these words for us to attain salvation
No its Not!see u r wrong there!
God used gabriel to send messages to the prohets and messengers
clearly now bible is not the word of god!
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i shall nt compare to other reglions and sry for any inconvinences caused
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
God did have a son, he send his beloved son jesus down on the earth to take away the sins of us....
Y does he need a Son?if he has a son meaning u r saying that he is mortal and after him his 'son' will take over!?
meaning u r making him look like a mortal?
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Originally posted by Afrasastrasz:
No its Not!see u r wrong there!
God used gabriel to send messages to the prohets and messengers
clearly now bible is not the word of god!
It is.......
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
It is.......
evidence?
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Originally posted by Afrasastrasz:
Y does he need a Son?if he has a son meaning u r saying that he is mortal and after him his 'son' will take over!?
meaning u r making him look like a mortal?
u got there first before me
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Originally posted by Afrasastrasz:
Y does he need a Son?if he has a son meaning u r saying that he is mortal and after him his 'son' will take over!?
meaning u r making him look like a mortal?
i had said before, god send his son down and saves those whom are sinned
The god father, his son, and the holy ghost are all one body, mind you, his son is a representation of him on earth
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Originally posted by Afrasastrasz:
evidence?
Jesus statments in the bible tally with all other statments in the bible
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Originally posted by Daisuke-kun:
u got there first before me
now not a +1 game
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
i had said before, god send his son down and saves those whom are sinned
The god father, his son, and the holy ghost are all one body, mind you, his son is a representation of him on earth
hohohohe shouldve did that(represented himself on earth) instead of sending other messengers?
jesus shouldve just called himself god isntead of saying 'father'
im not making fun of jesus here....
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I think we need to have more studies and understanding of each other religions which what I am doing for now during my free time, before coming to any conclusion or comments. However, I still keep to my stand as a Christian which is the same for the rest who has other religion.
And if we argue about this kind of issue, I think it may not bring any closure and it may generate undesirable causes.
But, we may know what will happen to us if we depart from this world.
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
If human had perfect knowledge we would understand all.
And the concept of God and the whole universe of science will not contradict each other.
Right now the level of our technology and science imo is still pretty primitive. The whole world propulsion is dependant way too much on the extract of dead animal which in all convenience is volative.Thank God for that.
Yes man has gone to the moon but their spacecraft was and still is drawfed by the size of their fuel tank. That shows how efficient our state of propulsion really is.
To make matters worse. Human technologies have been developed in pursue of either military purposes or financial gain i.e the desire to dominate with little consideration given to the care of the environment i.e nature. This has resulted in the massive environmental damages thoughout our planet and we seem to be heading for a new extinction.
Someting important that many people seem to forget is that science never created anything. To be precise science is the art of manipulating the rule of the universe through obtained knowledge learned by the use of observation and research( which is experimenting and observation).
Airplanes fly not because it can fly but because of the manipulation of air pressure by the unique shape of the wing. Airplane engine is just used to push the plane forward. So you can say the airplanes rather than flying actually sails in the air. LOL.
It's the same with helicopter and all other stuffs that we created.
To realize just how smart we are....the whole world of science is still baffled on how to fight HIV which is a virus that is the lowest level of life there is.
We are still living in the dark age. Just because now we have candles widely available everywhere doesn't mean we can do without the sun.
Wake up! We have progressed but no where close to understanding even a fraction of the whole knowledge there is.
I'm just saying that there IS NO sufficient data, scientifically speaking, to conclude that there is no God.
Have you ever seen a 50 foot shark? No?
Just because you haven't seen one it doesn't mean it don't exist.
Oh yea, fyi i am an atheist. What i wrote is purely based on perception and not bringing religion into play. God may not exist in my mind, but i can't say for others. Well can you define religion ? I am sure both of us can. Even though i ain't had one.
What i believed religion is meant to be a communal faith, mentally and socially. True , if you're a Christian , naturally you would think God exists , even without scientific proof.
I would proceed to having queries for you to answer. Then how does Christianity came about ? I am also from a Catholic school from my sec sch days. Everyday, for some religious reason , they would make the students sing hymns in the name of the Lord. I used to ask my form teacher about it, "Does God Exist ?" As she was a Catholic too , i expected her to say," Yes , God exists."
However, what reply i've gotten made me rather surprised. "Believe what you want to believe in.There is no right or wrong to think God exist and vice-versa." As i never had a religion , nor planning to adopt one , i am convinced from that day on.
I make my stand clear. In regards to googoomuck's opinions , he said : "Surveys showed that 40% of scientists believe in God but among top scientists, the number who recognize the hand of God in the universe are remarkably high." isn't convincing enough to make other atheists to believe God does exist. Let me give an example.
Where do we come from ? I used to hear people commenting on how God created the 1st man - Adam and 1st woman - Eve. Yet, it's been scientifically proven that our evolution is actually derived from Apes in fact. Oh , you might argue that maybe scientists , under the faith of God , managed to prove our evolution from nothingness due to God's help. Yet , why this author(i presume him as a christian) have quite a lot of theories which aren't really feasible ? That' my point of view.
http://ldolphin.org/wmwilliams.html
I bet you got your theories from here. Cause what you wrote resembles what has been stated in the website itself.
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Originally posted by Afrasastrasz:
hohohohe shouldve did that(represented himself on earth) instead of sending other messengers?
jesus shouldve just called himself god isntead of saying 'father'
im not making fun of jesus here....
God = our heavenly father
and god son is jesus, it is only right to call him father
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Originally posted by Afrasastrasz:
hohohohe shouldve did that(represented himself on earth) instead of sending other messengers?
jesus shouldve just called himself god isntead of saying 'father'
im not making fun of jesus here....
Sry to ask you this qn:
Is it not the same as sending messages by the chosen one? -
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if u say quran copied from bible.....
there were no christians in pagan arabia....
in the bible jesus says 'father will send down another 'spirit,so do not grieve of my death for surely if he doesnt appear on earth after my death then that is a great loss,and he will appear and correct the people'
know who that is?
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Originally posted by gorby107:
Sry to ask you this qn:
Is it not the same as sending messages by the chosen one?sbs said that god created jesus as a representation of himself on earth
so instead of sending the messengers before jesus shouldve just represented himself on earth?
and not send other messengers?
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btw how could there be a universe ? and then BANG! and there are the different galaxies?
im talking about big bang theory
how about the gases,hydrogen and blahblah blah who were part of the universe at its birth?where did they come from?
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
now not a +1 game
+1. Show me the logic. -
Originally posted by Afrasastrasz:
btw
if u say quran copied from bible.....
there were no christians in pagan arabia....
in the bible jesus says 'father will send down another 'spirit,so do not grieve of my death for surely if he doesnt appear on earth after my death then that is a great loss,and he will appear and correct the people'
know who that is?
it's prophect muhammad...
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Originally posted by Daisuke-kun:
it's prophect muhammad...
ya i know i was just asking him