there is no gospel of Peter to follow.
who are the fundamentals?
You are wrong. Fundies are true Christians.
Give me an example of Christian fundamentals because I don't know any. All I know is good Christians and bad Christians.
I advise you being careful before labelling some group of Christian as being fundamentalist just because they view this world differently from you. Because in making such judgment you are being one. Who are you or we to judge who is more righteous in the eyes of God? Who are we to judge which one of us is more correct than the others in the eys of God. We can't because we don't have perfect knowledge. Hence our judgement is flawed and could be wrong altogether.
I could think IRA but they are political whose members' religion happen to be Catholic. Of course violence cannot to be condoned.
Fundamentalist Christians. If you want to see their antics You tube Jesus camps.
They are harming their own kids. See if you agree with me.
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DL
True Christians are smart enough to not believe in talking snakes and 10 headed monsters.
Do you believe in such nonsense?
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DL
All of us should judge the various Gods. How else to know who to follow and why.
Is that not how you chose yours or was it just cause daddy did.
I invite you also to You tube Jesus camp. It will open your eyes.
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DL
Originally posted by Ipirate:True Christians are smart enough to not believe in talking snakes and 10 headed monsters.
Do you believe in such nonsense?
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DL
Your theology is not deep enough to understand that talking snake is Satan.
Originally posted by Ipirate:All of us should judge the various Gods. How else to know who to follow and why.
Is that not how you chose yours or was it just cause daddy did.
I invite you also to You tube Jesus camp. It will open your eyes.
Regards
DL
First there is only ONE God. One for the entire human race. One for the entire animal kingdom. One for the entire spirit realm. One for the whole universe. One.
The One who [is able to] shakes the pillars of this world, who knows what is inside everyone's hearts, who knows the end before the beginning even began, who sees what is hidden in the dark by men, who changes the light of day of men into night and who gives rest to those who have departed into it. The One who raises His chosen ones to life and power, eternal. The One whose face shines BEYOND EVERYTHING. Who gives overwhelming peace to those that He favors and who takes it back. The one whose presence sounded like SUCH A MIGHTY wind [just like in pantecost]. The one who hears prayers and answers them. The One who is holy. The One who defeats all. The One whose plans never fail [and make them in such a detail]. The One who is inside everybody. The One who never leave His own people to walk alone. The One who is within, surround and around us ALL. The One who never leave and forget us EVEN when we've rested in the world of the dead and no longer remember Him. The One who reveals secrets.
Is there such a spirit like God? NO.
Be it that you are Jew, Moslem, Christian, Buddhist, Hindus, or atheist or even satan worshipper. There is only one God. One. One the same God for ALL.
Some people worship other entity other than God and call it their God but it's not God. It's spirits other than God. Not everyone knows the true God. But if you were to make a contest between other spirits and the true God the difference would be obvious. If one could make such a contest. But this is most unlikely so the best bet is to make yuor life a living testimony of the God whom you worship.
Originally posted by Ipirate:Fundamentalist Christians. If you want to see their antics You tube Jesus camps.
They are harming their own kids. See if you agree with me.
Regards
DL
Do you think harming one own kids is God's teachings? Why waste time on cults and wrong teachings? God gave us the gifts of wisdom to discern between the right and wrong and we should used it wisely or we will loose it.
All God teaches is about love and loving one's neighbour is equal to loving God. That's all God wants from us isn't it ?
M&P is right that there is ONLY ONE GOD and CREATOR OF ALL. What religion you practice will ultimately lead you to face the only GOD for judgement. More important to worry is - are you ready to face judgement from GOD?
what are christian fundamentalists? as in. what do they believe in? very confusing leh. i am very unlearnt. chin eng.. i kinda need ur advice.
Originally posted by Smarty Boy:Do you think harming one own kids is God's teachings? Why waste time on cults and wrong teachings? God gave us the gifts of wisdom to discern between the right and wrong and we should used it wisely or we will loose it.
All God teaches is about love and loving one's neighbour is equal to loving God. That's all God wants from us isn't it ?
M&P is right that there is ONLY ONE GOD and CREATOR OF ALL. What religion you practice will ultimately lead you to face the only GOD for judgement. More important to worry is - are you ready to face judgement from GOD?
if u're saying what i think u are saying then.. i have to respectfully disagree. =)
Originally posted by Smarty Boy:Do you think harming one own kids is God's teachings? Why waste time on cults and wrong teachings? God gave us the gifts of wisdom to discern between the right and wrong and we should used it wisely or we will loose it.
All God teaches is about love and loving one's neighbour is equal to loving God. That's all God wants from us isn't it ?
M&P is right that there is ONLY ONE GOD and CREATOR OF ALL. What religion you practice will ultimately lead you to face the only GOD for judgement. More important to worry is - are you ready to face judgement from GOD?
Theres really only one god? You sure about it? Christianity came from judaism and in ancient israel they worshipped many gods too. But what stands up from all is Yahweh. After the conversation with Abraham they decided to make Yahweh the all God Amighty. Thats how you have the ONE GOD and CREATOR OF ALL.
Same goes for Islam in ancient Arabia too.
Originally posted by wilsonhao:Theres really only one god? You sure about it? Christianity came from judaism and in ancient israel they worshipped many gods too. But what stands up from all is Yahweh. After the conversation with Abraham they decided to make Yahweh the all God Amighty. Thats how you have the ONE GOD and CREATOR OF ALL.
Same goes for Islam in ancient Arabia too.
Yes Wilson there is only one God. I'd put my life at stake to say that there is only one God. One the others are not. But not everyone knows this. Not everyone knows God.
Originally posted by wilsonhao:Theres really only one god? You sure about it? Christianity came from judaism and in ancient israel they worshipped many gods too. But what stands up from all is Yahweh. After the conversation with Abraham they decided to make Yahweh the all God Amighty. Thats how you have the ONE GOD and CREATOR OF ALL.
Same goes for Islam in ancient Arabia too.
everytime they worshipped other gods, they suffered for it.
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:First there is only ONE God. One for the entire human race. One for the entire animal kingdom. One for the entire spirit realm. One for the whole universe. One.
The One who [is able to] shakes the pillars of this world, who knows what is inside everyone's hearts, who knows the end before the beginning even began, who sees what is hidden in the dark by men, who changes the light of day of men into night and who gives rest to those who have departed into it. The One who raises His chosen ones to life and power, eternal. The One whose face shines BEYOND EVERYTHING. Who gives overwhelming peace to those that He favors and who takes it back. The one whose presence sounded like SUCH A MIGHTY wind [just like in pantecost]. The one who hears prayers and answers them. The One who is holy. The One who defeats all. The One whose plans never fail [and make them in such a detail]. The One who is inside everybody. The One who never leave His own people to walk alone. The One who is within, surround and around us ALL. The One who never leave and forget us EVEN when we've rested in the world of the dead and no longer remember Him. The One who reveals secrets.
Is there such a spirit like God? NO.
Be it that you are Jew, Moslem, Christian, Buddhist, Hindus, or atheist or even satan worshipper. There is only one God. One. One the same God for ALL.
Some people worship other entity other than God and call it their God but it's not God. It's spirits other than God. Not everyone knows the true God. But if you were to make a contest between other spirits and the true God the difference would be obvious. If one could make such a contest. But this is most unlikely so the best bet is to make yuor life a living testimony of the God whom you worship.
Ahem, please do not tell me the God's name is Brahma. Therefore, your reasoning is faulty.
Originally posted by wilsonhao:Theres really only one god? You sure about it? Christianity came from judaism and in ancient israel they worshipped many gods too. But what stands up from all is Yahweh. After the conversation with Abraham they decided to make Yahweh the all God Amighty. Thats how you have the ONE GOD and CREATOR OF ALL.
Same goes for Islam in ancient Arabia too.
Yes, I believe that there is only 1 GOD and all other perceived Gods are not Gods for that matter (just to me casue of my beliefs). BUT, that does not mean I go around saying other are worshipping idols or devils etc.... Just that I know that I am worshipping the true God who teaches us to love our neighbour. And by loving our neighbour, we actually showed love to God as we can read clearly from the last judgement in Mt:25.
Since we have only 1 God and creator, all of us regardless of faith will face the same God on judgement day. Are we ready to be judge by Him is what we should worry about.
Do you beleive that there are more than 1 God?
Originally posted by Smarty Boy:Yes, I believe that there is only 1 GOD and all other perceived Gods are not Gods for that matter (just to me casue of my beliefs). BUT, that does not mean I go around saying other are worshipping idols or devils etc.... Just that I know that I am worshipping the true God who teaches us to love our neighbour. And by loving our neighbour, we actually showed love to God as we can read clearly from the last judgement in Mt:25.
Since we have only 1 God and creator, all of us regardless of faith will face the same God on judgement day. Are we ready to be judge by Him is what we should worry about.
Do you beleive that there are more than 1 God?
loving ur neighbour.. is about wanting the best for them. knowing that a life in Jesus is the best for them, after experiencing one yourself, would u not want them to be a part of it?
and.. knowing that everyone will be judged by God one day, are you willing to abandon them to that judgement knowing about the outcome for them?
Originally posted by dumbdumb!:loving ur neighbour.. is about wanting the best for them. knowing that a life in Jesus is the best for them, after experiencing one yourself, would u not want them to be a part of it?
and.. knowing that everyone will be judged by God one day, are you willing to abandon them to that judgement knowing about the outcome for them?
Loving your neighbour is just that - loving them without conditions. Conversion is not the reason to love. If you love with your heart, they will know and they will be moved because you showed that it was your true following of God's teachings. I know that this is easier said than done but it can be done with lots of prayers and God's guidiance.
Spreading gospel is done by showing love as God has taught us to do. Love is about giving - not receiving. Jesus said, He is here to serve and not to be served. He also called on His disciples to do the same – to serve.
Good example are homes and hospice where old, sick and dying are abandon by families. They are cared for regardless of faith and status and being shown that there is love and hope. These can only come about cause God loves them and send help to reach out to them times when they needed it most.
Each one of us has a role to play in God's plan and each has his own free will to make a choice. At the end, we are all answerable ourself to God and to God alone.
Originally posted by Smarty Boy:Loving your neighbour is just that - loving them without conditions. Conversion is not the reason to love. If you love with your heart, they will know and they will be moved because you showed that it was your true following of God's teachings. I know that this is easier said than done but it can be done with lots of prayers and God's guidiance.
Spreading gospel is done by showing love as God has taught us to do. Love is about giving - not receiving. Jesus said, He is here to serve and not to be served. He also called on His disciples to do the same – to serve.
Good example are homes and hospice where old, sick and dying are abandon by families. They are cared for regardless of faith and status and being shown that there is love and hope. These can only come about cause God loves them and send help to reach out to them times when they needed it most.
Each one of us has a role to play in God's plan and each has his own free will to make a choice. At the end, we are all answerable ourself to God and to God alone.
oh, definitely, u're not wrong. =)
it's.. furtile to just talk about God's love without showing it. something i am learning myself.
but.. that's different from.. saying that it's ok and God condones the worship of other gods, and it doesn't matter because all lead to the same God anyway.. (if that's what u're saying of course) if that was true, the 12 apostles wouldn't have gone around the world to preach.
let me quote a real life example in my church. my cell member's daughter is heavily tattooed, smokes, and is in a gang. do i accept her as who she is. yes i do. but do i encourage her to live her life right, and follow Jesus - yes, because that's the loving thing to do. just leaving someone to themselves when you know the outcome is going to be bad, isn't loving your neighbour.
Originally posted by dumbdumb!:oh, definitely, u're not wrong. =)............................
(1) but.. that's different from.. saying that it's ok and God condones the worship of other gods, and it doesn't matter because all lead to the same God anyway.. (if that's what u're saying of course) if that was true, the 12 apostles wouldn't have gone around the world to preach............................
(2).just leaving someone to themselves when you know the outcome is going to be bad, isn't loving your neighbour.
No matter what, all creation by God will face His judgement isn't it? Or if one worship "another God" will face judgement from "another God"? Even within Christianity, there are so many denominations and now, people who claimed no denominations etc.. People who claimed that God spoke to them thru the bible and preach etc... People who read the bible and think it means like and that etc...Are they all worshipping the same God? One God but so many variations of teachings? Worst comdenming each other?
Then if we look at any other faith and try to understand what they are preaching, you will see similiarities and an important fact is many of the other faith do teaches love your neighbour (which Jesus said is one of the 2 commandments we need to follow which will bring us eternal life - again Mt 25 last judgement).
But it is not just teachings but actual feat of doing what is being preached. And all good things come from God (even when it comes from another faith other than Christianity) and God alone.
If a Christian has no love for his neighbour while one from another faith does, who should God grant eternal life to? I believed that God is loving, compassionate, just, forgiving and great as the scriptures has told us so and He will be so to ALL his creations - Christians or not.
Who are we to judge who goes where (Heaven or Hell) as our Lord is the only one qualified and tasked by our Father to judge - so we leave it to him.
Not being a Christrians does not mean bad ending (any bible verse to prove that?).....we have to share the Gospels and every one has the free will to choose. As long we show love to all (I mean all regardless of faith) and treat all as equal (as Jesus always does), then I think we are ok. If others around us can see that as Christians, we have no divide and bias on others, then people are more inclined to hear us out and find out why God is so good as the goodness comes from God thru our deeds.
How could it be when God said that all in the garden was good. Is Satan good?
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DL
Jesus was a traitor to humanity for using genocide against man.
Jews do not follow Hitler.
Why would anyone want to follow Jesus, a genocidal maniac.
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DL