As above. I only know that priest cannot be married and such though...
its a honourable vocation if you're called for it.
what priests?
the levitical priests in the old testaments have children.
any....
Priest - cannot have sex?
Pastor/REV - can have sex?
erm they have lots of altar boys to keep them company?
Originally posted by hisoka:erm they have lots of altar boys to keep them company?
Becoming a Catholic Priest entails some sacrifice but it can also be a very rewarding vocation if one is called to it. This point is brought across very nicely in an advertisement for the priesthood by the St.Francis Xavier Major Seminary, an extract of which is shown below.
The requirement for Catholic priests to remain single is Church discipline and not dogma. It echoes what St. Paul wrote in the bible,
"I should like you to be free of anxieties. An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord. But a married man is anxious about the things of the world, how he may please his wife, and he is divided ..." (1Cor7:32:34)
Priests of the Eastern Rites are predominantly married. Celibacy is merely a discipline of the Latin Rite within the CC.
A priest goes through 7-8 years of training in a seminary before they can be ordained as priest. They live in Churches, have no salary or CPF and current allowance is about $ 500 per month.
Below is an article from Catholic News about diocesan priests :
Catholic priests in Singapore are either diocesan or religious (e.g.
Redemptorists, Franciscans, Carmelites, Jesuits and Dominicians).
However, they sahre a common identity as "Alter Christus" (Another
Christ) and exercise common ministerial functions.
Diocesan priests:
- Commit their lives to serving the people of God in a diocese (a geographical area under the jurisdiction of a bishop).
- Make promise of celibacy and obedience (whereas priests from religious orders take an additional vow of poverty).
- Live life like their parishioners - they can buy their personal things and plan their own recreation.
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Render pastoral care to parishioners from cradle to grave, administer
the sacraments, lead in prayer and worship, give faith and moral
formations
Watch this video about the truth of a catholic priest here
Priesthood is a full time vocation and not a job or career - certainly not a get rich fast path. It's a true call from God.
Originally posted by Smarty Boy:Priesthood is a full time vocation and not a job or career - certainly not a get rich fast path. It's a true call from God.
And not one to be toyed about. It's a very serious decision.
To be a priest who took the oath of poverty and celibacy you must really believe(and know) that your reward is not here. That the very best of life is not of this world but after.
That is after God raises you to life....
A toast to all priests and those who pursue their salvation with rigor: "To the very best of life", "To future kings and queens", "To everlasting power " ;-)
I still remember a comment from an NTU entrepreneurship lecturer when he said (Christian) priests are not doing anything. And to think what has that lecturer done in his life to merit him making such a comment.
As far as I know he wasn't not doing anything aside trying to make his and his family ends met. A very selfish goal I'd say.
Is there any Eastern Rite Churches here?
Originally posted by grandmaster89:Is there any Eastern Rite Churches here?
Not that I am aware of.
Out of curiosity, why do the Latin Rite enforces the celibacy laws? Our Eastern Catholic priest are married..they seem to be doing fine haha.
Originally posted by Smarty Boy:A priest goes through 7-8 years of training in a seminary before they can be ordained as priest. They live in Churches, have no salary or CPF and current allowance is about $ 500 per month.
Below is an article from Catholic News about diocesan priests :Catholic priests in Singapore are either diocesan or religious (e.g. Redemptorists, Franciscans, Carmelites, Jesuits and Dominicians). However, they sahre a common identity as "Alter Christus" (Another Christ) and exercise common ministerial functions.
Diocesan priests:
- Commit their lives to serving the people of God in a diocese (a geographical area under the jurisdiction of a bishop).
- Make promise of celibacy and obedience (whereas priests from religious orders take an additional vow of poverty).
- Live life like their parishioners - they can buy their personal things and plan their own recreation.
- Render pastoral care to parishioners from cradle to grave, administer the sacraments, lead in prayer and worship, give faith and moral formationsWatch this video about the truth of a catholic priest here
Priesthood is a full time vocation and not a job or career - certainly not a get rich fast path. It's a true call from God.
Erm, S$ 500 is just face value, i know of priests who own cars, laptops and the lastest handphones.
No offense though, but i doubt that they can resist picking on the donations.
dunno, you go live it and tell us...
Priest heal ppl in raid grp LOL
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:And not one to be toyed about. It's a very serious decision.
To be a priest who took the oath of poverty and celibacy you must really believe(and know) that your reward is not here. That the very best of life is not of this world but after.
That is after God raises you to life....
A toast to all priests and those who pursue their salvation with rigor: "To the very best of life", "To future kings and queens", "To everlasting power " ;-)
I still remember a comment from an NTU entrepreneurship lecturer when he said (Christian) priests are not doing anything. And to think what has that lecturer done in his life to merit him making such a comment.
As far as I know he wasn't not doing anything aside trying to make his and his family ends met. A very selfish goal I'd say.
Any goal that benefits the lifes of others shouldn't be considered selfish. The lecturer may not have the merits to comment, but i think only a fool would say that trying to make his family's ends meet is a selfish act.
Besides, i don't think what you, if you will to be so kind as not to be offended, have done in your life which give you the rights to judge others.
Originally posted by crimsontactics:Erm, S$ 500 is just face value, i know of priests who own cars, laptops and the lastest handphones.
No offense though, but i doubt that they can resist picking on the donations.
CC gives it to them to carry out their ministry work.
The best gift a priest has is FORGIVING sins.
Originally posted by grandmaster89:
CC gives it to them to carry out their ministry work.The best gift a priest has is FORGIVING sins.
I see. Thanks for enlightening me.
However, i don't get it why they are given such lastest model of gadgets? While, if it is for work, i think that some average laptops and handphones should be suffice. The money saved could be used to help others in need.
Just for you ease, the models im talking about is phones like w960i, n95 and some other smartphones.
Originally posted by crimsontactics:I see. Thanks for enlightening me.
However, i don't get it why they are given such lastest model of gadgets? While, if it is for work, i think that some average laptops and handphones should be suffice. The money saved could be used to help others in need.
Just for you ease, the models im talking about is phones like w960i, n95 and some other smartphones.
Your reasoning do have merits but is there any evidence of the CC stinging on the poor in Singapore?
Don't forget Vatican also very rich :)
Originally posted by grandmaster89:
Your reasoning do have merits but is there any evidence of the CC stinging on the poor in Singapore?Don't forget Vatican also very rich :)
Yeah. You're right about that part.
Though Vatican is rich, their finance management is really doubtful, not transparent, so its hard to say if the money is put to good use.
Originally posted by crimsontactics:Yeah. You're right about that part.
Though Vatican is rich, their finance management is really doubtful, not transparent, so its hard to say if the money is put to good use.
Well its up to them. Remember the Vatican is a soveriegn country so I don't think it can just reveal all its financial data. Even up till today Singapore has yet to fully account all his reserves.
Most of its money comes from its investments, art, treasures/money from the now defunct Papal States and of course real estate.
Originally posted by crimsontactics: Erm, S$ 500 is just face value, i know of priests who own cars, laptops and the lastest handphones.No offense though, but i doubt that they can resist picking on the donations.
I think you have some mis-understanding....Priests are not given any gadgets by the Church and certainly not latest laptops and handphones. Some priest who need a laptop (such as for out of Church events) may be given one but it belongs to the Church and not the priest. Like your rifle in army - it's not yours. Handphones are personal for sure and most Church do not even reimburse the priest for the line.....certainly not the phone.
All priests DO NOT own cars as they belong to the Church and I believe that it cannot be more than 1600cc. But only for parish Churches because priest need to travel to serve the community as mentiuoned.
You do make a very serious allegations when you said "i doubt that they can resist picking on the donations". The donations are not counted by the priests but by a committee of lay people.
If you know any "loop holes" that may allow a priest to dip into donations, perhaps you can raise them so that something can be done or...
If you know of any or suspect that any priest is dipping into donations, you can always make a report to the Archbishop or even the police.
$500 is for real and not face value only.....
Why would someone wants to give up everything (and some priests do give up successful careers) to join a seminary for 7-8 years (when they get even lesser - used to be $50 a month but not sure now) just to get a chance to dip into donations?
Originally posted by crimsontactics:Yeah. You're right about that part.
Though Vatican is rich, their finance management is really doubtful, not transparent, so its hard to say if the money is put to good use.
What are your doubts about the Vatican's finance management?
It will be interesting to know.....and maybe you would also like to know that the Pope is another priest. He owns nothing that belongs to the Vatican and will die poor with nothing to his name. Everything belongs to the Church and his people.
If you have interest to find out what the Catholic community is doing, visit Caritas.