Originally posted by wilsonhao:If Jesus was still living today,...
Jesus is alive. I'm one of the today's witnesses that Jesus is alive and has taken a glorified form.
His face shines brighter than the sun. His whole body is covered by the white light which shines from His face. I couldn't penetrate the light of His face to see Him face to face but I do know that Jesus is my God and that He is alive. Jesus is not counted among the dead.
I testify that God wants each of us to love Jesus. God has never wanted us to love any of the prophets or holy men but God wants us to put our faith in Jesus and to love Jesus. You will not be disappointed for putting your faith in Jesus.
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:Jesus is alive. I'm one of the today's witnesses that Jesus is alive and has taken a glorified form.
His face shines brighter than the sun. His whole body is covered by the white light which shines from His face. I couldn't penetrate the light of His face to see Him face to face but I do know that Jesus is my God and that He is alive. Jesus is not counted among the dead.
I testify that God wants each of us to love Jesus. God has never wanted us to love any of the prophets or holy men but God wants us to put our faith in Jesus and to love Jesus. You will not be disappointed for putting your faith in Jesus.
but take a look at the downturn market.....
wait until the bull wake up....
Sorry bro God never said we will not be disappointed
God never promise us life is smooth sailing
Thank You
First things first, the Pastor you are referring to, is not paid by the church, Not on CHURCH PAYROLL. So mind your words when you say the church pays the pastors a lot.
during the services the pastor encourage people to give for offering, Not a single intention to force. besides the bible also mention that you can give without loving but you can never love without giving. Thus if you love the house of God you will not bear not to give.
Like any houses, if you have an addition to your family you will go into larger homes to house these people in. likewise if the church is growing, it is natural to get a larger place to seat all the members. imagine going home to find out that you don't have a place to even sleep. how sad is that!
beside the case, the word of God says that anything that is not bearing fruit will be cut off from the branch. how can you as an individual, talk about the growth of the church and yet denying this part of the word.
Read the word of God in its entirety before coming with all the murmurings.
and before you start talking again about the church or the pastor and his wife, think about yourself, are you anywhere near them to criticize them?
how many people have you lead to christ? how many people have you help even though they are not christians. how many schools have you built? have you lived your life that at the end of it people will cry at your demise? or people rejoice over your demise?
a thought to ponder. watch the tongue, for it is a dangerous weapon. it can make you or do you in....
As an individual, the word says that the old man shall see visions, the young man shall dream dreams. if thats the case, having vision and dreams for the sake of having it? living out the visions and dreams is what we should be doing.
Originally posted by noahnoah:
but take a look at the downturn market.....wait until the bull wake up....
Sorry bro God never said we will not be disappointed
God never promise us life is smooth sailing
Thank You
Down market is a trend as being said in the bible. Just happened to notice
4 horse men in the book of revelation also in Matthew 24:3 about all refers to the same thing with similar order. If you have notice this happens in our time as in order as well.
first we have false doctrine floating in the 80s then gulf war in 1994 then market crisis in 1997 and then Sars around 2002 then we have theory about Jesus is married, "gospal" of judah then we have wars with here and there in middle east then now market crisis again... probably another outbreak coming...
Anyway, there's solution to this in the bible but it's another subject all together.
Back to Money -
Hebrew 7:8 Here mortal men receive tithes, but there He receives them, of whom it is witnessed that He lives. Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, so to speak, for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.
Malachi 3:10 Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this,” Says the LORD of hosts, “ If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it.
Now God gave a challenge, will you accept it? I wonder how many here tithes to a church...
Originally posted by illvision revived:
Malachi 3:10 Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this,” Says the LORD of hosts, “ If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it.
BTW ordinary Isrealites do not bring their tithes into the storehouse of Hashem, Blessed is He Adonai Elohin King of the Universe, in Malachi 3:10. Please do yourself a favour, don't misquote the words of Hashem, to support your teaching of tithing. Moreover the tithes mentioned in Malachi only refers to provisions used in temple worship, not $$$$.
Originally posted by Creation1656:
BTW ordinary Isrealites do not bring their tithes into the storehouse of Hashem, Blessed is He Adonai Elohin King of the Universe, in Malachi 3:10. Please do yourself a favour, don't misquote the words of Hashem, to support your teaching of tithing. Moreover the tithes mentioned in Malachi only refers to provisions used in temple worship, not $$$$.
God in the first place dun need our $$$
he have all the gold and silver in his kingdom
Originally posted by HyperionDCZ:i really dont understand what kind of church that is.
They're based in a shopping mall, and they're paying $500Million to build a new one with dance clubs and wine bars.
Their music is like rock music or something, just with christian words as lyrics.
Their leader is more like a celebrity than a christian leader
erm... may i ask they are based at which shopping? i only know they got their own building at jurong west and another one at expo convention hall. as for riverwalk, its only used for bible study right? not for service as far as i know.
plus, how you know they're paying $500Million to build a new one with dance clubs and wine bars? i only heard that they are trying to build one stadium like church to house the growing number of people.
Originally posted by Mid9Sun:Ok this is my personal take on mega churches,no intention to offend anyone.
Churches should be reminded what are Jesus’s teachings and should mirror what He stands for, like humility, self sacrifice, and other virtues.
Jesus could have all the $$ in the world to build mega and beautiful churches for his flocks but instead he usually choosed humble venues like wilderness or mountains etc etc.
Churches should never engage in any business or profit making activities unless it’s for charity or other good causes. Remember Jesus himself chase out those greedy merchants from the temples angrily didnt he?
Even if a church is rich and successful, the extra monies, should be used to set up trusts for or donate direct into charities where $$$ would be use more meaningfully.
Lastly, Jesus said very clearly like many will come in His name and much of these are wolves in sheep skins. So people should look beyond the glamour and flashy lights and see the real god that the church is subscribing to.
Yes i agree the money they earn should help others. but i don't agree that churches should never engage in any business or profit making activities unless it’s for charity or other good causes. if that is the case, then what about abraham, jacob, solomon? they are all powerful and rich people in their times especially solomon. he is not a businessman but a king. a political. but God allow him to be super rich before he turn away from Him.
Originally posted by noahnoah:
yep happy go lor
dun happy dun go lor
so simple
kekeke
But they preach a lot on money one
always ask members to give and give
then say u will get 100 folds back
i been there for 6 years
given money but never c any folds back
so i dun think is wise keep telling people
u put 10 bucks in u will reap 100 folds
sounds like stock market to me
but did He bless you back in other ways then financially?
no offence to you but you give willingly or reluctanly?
there is an incident that happened that i heard is that this guy tithe $50. but after awhile another guy came running to him and told him he jus got to give him $50. then the guy who tithe feel the Holy Spirit or God told him, if you tithe unwillingly, He don't want.
In fact, God don't need. He wants a willing heart.
Originally posted by labbishLife:
but did He bless you back in other ways then financially?
no offence to you but you give willingly or reluctanly?
there is an incident that happened that i heard is that this guy tithe $50. but after awhile another guy came running to him and told him he jus got to give him $50. then the guy who tithe feel the Holy Spirit or God told him, if you tithe unwillingly, He don't want.
In fact, God don't need. He wants a willing heart.
GOT!!! ALOTTT!!!!!
Originally posted by ixidor:wow good church with lots of lost of money and the pastor is a millionair cause of the many many money rich devotee obsessed to donate cause they all think they sined.
one thing you have to know, pastor Kong is not being paid by CHC. he has his own business yet he make time to do great things for the kingdom of God. somtimes he don't even have the time to rest properly because he had to go to churches overseas to preach.
and besides, if there are pastors who took the money to indulge themselves, they will be punished by God in due time.
God knows everyones' heart. the money you give, God knows. God already accepted it when you give. what is being done with it is up to the church.
Originally posted by Creation1656:
Wow! These are the very famous verses often quoted by tithing teachers that will frighten the shits out of many believers to give.
"Will a man rob God? Yet you rob me.
"But you ask, 'How do we rob you?'
"In tithes and offerings. You are under a curse—the whole nation of you—because you are robbing me. Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it. Malachi 3:8-10 (NIV).
what you have is given to you by God to take care till you die. you are a steward over the things you possess. the verses is not to frighten people. just that its a fact. God only wants a 10% back but you never give Him. isn't that robbing Him?if you can't even give back the 10%, what makes you think God will give you more?
Its like u lend people $100 and only wants him/her to return you back $10 but he/she refuse. don't you feel robbed? and will you will lend the person anymore $$? its the same logic.
Originally posted by labbishLife:what you have is given to you by God to take care till you die. you are a steward over the things you possess. the verses is not to frighten people. just that its a fact. God only wants a 10% back but you never give Him. isn't that robbing Him?if you can't even give back the 10%, what makes you think God will give you more?
Its like u lend people $100 and only wants him/her to return you back $10 but he/she refuse. don't you feel robbed? and will you will lend the person anymore $$? its the same logic.
nice 1
Originally posted by labbishLife:Yes i agree the money they earn should help others. but i don't agree that churches should never engage in any business or profit making activities unless it’s for charity or other good causes. if that is the case, then what about abraham, jacob, solomon? they are all powerful and rich people in their times especially solomon. he is not a businessman but a king. a political. but God allow him to be super rich before he turn away from Him.
Hi labbishLife,
Jesus never intended that making $$$ as a part of the church's function, so why should it spend time and resources to engage in any businesses other then fundraising activities for charities or good causes.
Sorry, I also find it very strange that you would compare a church to abraham, jacob and even solomon as they are very different entities all together.
originally posted by labblishLife:
what you have is given to you by God to take care till you die. you are a steward over the things you possess. the verses is not to frighten people. just that its a fact. God only wants a 10% back but you never give Him. isn't that robbing Him?if you can't even give back the 10%, what makes you think God will give you more?
Its like u lend people $100 and only wants him/her to return you back $10 but he/she refuse. don't you feel robbed? and will you will lend the person anymore $$? its the same logic.
Perhaps U may like to read the whole book of malachi and then answer the following questions:
1. Who are the people that are involved in the discussions in the book of malachi.
2. What are the issues? Is it regarding temple worship under the Law of Moses, or is it regarding $$$.?
For your benefits and study, i will highlight the following verses:
"And now this commandment is for you, O priests. Malachi 2:1 (NASB)
"Then you will know that I have sent this commandment to you, that My covenant may continue with Levi," says the LORD of hosts Malachi 2:4 (NASB)
"You are presenting defiled food upon My altar But you say, 'How have we defiled You?' In that you say, 'The table of the LORD is to be despised.'
"But when you present the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? And when you present the lame and sick, is it not evil? Why not offer it to your governor? Would he be pleased with you? Or would he receive you kindly?" says the LORD of hosts. Malachi 1:7-8 (NASB)
"But you are profaning it, in that you say, 'The table of the Lord is defiled, and as for its fruit, its food is to be despised.'
"You also say, 'My, how tiresome it is!' And you disdainfully sniff at it," says the LORD of hosts, "and you bring what was taken by robbery and what is lame or sick; so you bring the offering! Should I receive that from your hand?" says the LORD.
"But cursed be the swindler who has a male in his flock and vows it, but sacrifices a blemished animal to the Lord, for I am a great King," says the LORD of hosts, "and My name is feared among the nations." Malachi 1:12-14 (NASB)
"Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and test Me now in this," says the LORD of hosts, "if I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until it overflows.
"Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of the ground; nor will your vine in the field cast its grapes," says the LORD of hosts. Malachi 3:10-11 (NASB)
BTW are U aware that it is Hashem, Blessed is He Adonai Elohin King of the Universe, that take care and sustain both believers and unbelievers till the end of the age. There is no pre conditions. Hashem is G-d of all the nations. Let me ask u, who is god in the NT. The god of the NT bless and sustain only those who tithes $$$? How sad.
Originally posted by [illvsion revived]:The authorities have proven their record clean and those "Where has all the money gone?" have been exposed...so be careful where you put your money into. It's up to individual to know if they shall give to the Church. Your Selection of Church. Don't like this church give to next... unless you don't give at all, then it's all up to you.
2 Corinthians 9:6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 9As it is written:"He has scattered abroad his gifts to the poor;
his righteousness endures forever."Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness. You will be made rich in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God.
Be Generous and Do Good
Galatians 6:6 Let him who is taught the word share in all good things with him who teaches.
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life. And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith.
My point exactly. Let the leaders answer to God whether they have used extrodinary efforts in "compelling" for donations. And how many followers abandoned like used tubes of toothpaste.
Originally posted by Creation1656:
Perhaps U may like to read the whole book of malachi and then answer the following questions:
1. Who are the people that are involved in the discussions in the book of malachi.
2. What are the issues? Is it regarding temple worship under the Law of Moses, or is it regarding $$$.?
For your benefits and study, i will highlight the following verses:
"And now this commandment is for you, O priests. Malachi 2:1 (NASB)
"Then you will know that I have sent this commandment to you, that My covenant may continue with Levi," says the LORD of hosts Malachi 2:4 (NASB)
"You are presenting defiled food upon My altar But you say, 'How have we defiled You?' In that you say, 'The table of the LORD is to be despised.'
"But when you present the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? And when you present the lame and sick, is it not evil? Why not offer it to your governor? Would he be pleased with you? Or would he receive you kindly?" says the LORD of hosts. Malachi 1:7-8 (NASB)
"But you are profaning it, in that you say, 'The table of the Lord is defiled, and as for its fruit, its food is to be despised.'
"You also say, 'My, how tiresome it is!' And you disdainfully sniff at it," says the LORD of hosts, "and you bring what was taken by robbery and what is lame or sick; so you bring the offering! Should I receive that from your hand?" says the LORD.
"But cursed be the swindler who has a male in his flock and vows it, but sacrifices a blemished animal to the Lord, for I am a great King," says the LORD of hosts, "and My name is feared among the nations." Malachi 1:12-14 (NASB)
"Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and test Me now in this," says the LORD of hosts, "if I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until it overflows.
"Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of the ground; nor will your vine in the field cast its grapes," says the LORD of hosts. Malachi 3:10-11 (NASB)
BTW are U aware that it is Hashem, Blessed is He Adonai Elohin King of the Universe, that take care and sustain both believers and unbelievers till the end of the age. There is no pre conditions. Hashem is G-d of all the nations. Let me ask u, who is god in the NT. The god of the NT bless and sustain only those who tithes $$$? How sad.
Personally i don't buy into the quota of percentages. From another perspective, i think Jesus abolished hard numbers percentages after the event of the old woman donating at the temple. 10% or any percent is easy after you have killed yourself into giving it as a forced obligation, but any amount with your heart is equally welcomed in the eyes of the Lord.
That is to say that the hearts of those who give freely without coersion will be truely blessed. Be it 1 % or 10% or 100%
The same cannot be said for those who receive these offerings physically and use them for their own selfish gains.
Originally posted by Mid9Sun:
Hi labbishLife,
Jesus never intended that making $$$ as a part of the church's function, so why should it spend time and resources to engage in any businesses other then fundraising activities for charities or good causes.
Sorry, I also find it very strange that you would compare a church to abraham, jacob and even solomon as they are very different entities all together.
erm.. how to say.. because alot people feel that church pastor should not be rich 4 wad reason i don't know. because they should be serving God? i compare with 'em is because i want to say God not only wants us to serve Him, but he also wants us to be the top and not the bottom. that how abraham they all are. if just because pastor are being running a succssful biz, they are said not a good pastor? thus, the church is not a gd church?
or did i misunderstand what he is trying to say?
Originally posted by Creation1656:
Perhaps U may like to read the whole book of malachi and then answer the following questions:
1. Who are the people that are involved in the discussions in the book of malachi.
2. What are the issues? Is it regarding temple worship under the Law of Moses, or is it regarding $$$.?
For your benefits and study, i will highlight the following verses:
"And now this commandment is for you, O priests. Malachi 2:1 (NASB)
"Then you will know that I have sent this commandment to you, that My covenant may continue with Levi," says the LORD of hosts Malachi 2:4 (NASB)
"You are presenting defiled food upon My altar But you say, 'How have we defiled You?' In that you say, 'The table of the LORD is to be despised.'
"But when you present the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? And when you present the lame and sick, is it not evil? Why not offer it to your governor? Would he be pleased with you? Or would he receive you kindly?" says the LORD of hosts. Malachi 1:7-8 (NASB)
"But you are profaning it, in that you say, 'The table of the Lord is defiled, and as for its fruit, its food is to be despised.'
"You also say, 'My, how tiresome it is!' And you disdainfully sniff at it," says the LORD of hosts, "and you bring what was taken by robbery and what is lame or sick; so you bring the offering! Should I receive that from your hand?" says the LORD.
"But cursed be the swindler who has a male in his flock and vows it, but sacrifices a blemished animal to the Lord, for I am a great King," says the LORD of hosts, "and My name is feared among the nations." Malachi 1:12-14 (NASB)
"Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and test Me now in this," says the LORD of hosts, "if I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until it overflows.
"Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of the ground; nor will your vine in the field cast its grapes," says the LORD of hosts. Malachi 3:10-11 (NASB)
BTW are U aware that it is Hashem, Blessed is He Adonai Elohin King of the Universe, that take care and sustain both believers and unbelievers till the end of the age. There is no pre conditions. Hashem is G-d of all the nations. Let me ask u, who is god in the NT. The god of the NT bless and sustain only those who tithes $$$? How sad.
The God of the OT is the same as the God in the NT... He is the same Yesterday, Today and Tommorrow. The verses in Malachi talks of God pouring out the blessings of Heaven on his poeple who obey his commandment to tithe. God never said that He would not sustain the unbelievers. Indeed He does that too. BUT there's a difference between sustaining a person, and blessing a person with overflowing abundance. That's the difference the Malachi verses expounded on.
In short, it means this:
Tithe= God pours his blessings upon you and let's you walk in abundance and not in lack. And God will ensure your blessings stay with you and not get taken away from you by force.
No Tithe= God WON'T omit his blessings and sustains you, but He will juz stop at the sustaining level, it will not move on to abundance, just that you have enough to get by. And little protection against forces that may come against you to snatch away what little you have.
And Malachi was expounding on the church in general, encompassing $$, temple worship, everything, NOT limiting to a single issue.
regarding that church thing i think i got somthing wrong. i lataer home then read again. btw, tks for pointing out the malachi verses. nv really read that detail in OT. >.<
Originally posted by sleepy Mosquito:
Personally i don't buy into the quota of percentages. From another perspective, i think Jesus abolished hard numbers percentages after the event of the old woman donating at the temple. 10% or any percent is easy after you have killed yourself into giving it as a forced obligation, but any amount with your heart is equally welcomed in the eyes of the Lord.
Shalom, May the peace of Hashem be with you. Although tithing is compulsory under the Law of Moses during/before the 1st and 2nd temple period. Tithes, under the Law of Moses only applies to livestocks and certain crops. It is not about $$$. Under the Law of Moses, Jesus, a carpenter, don't tithes cos there is no tithes on $$$. His followers who were fishermen also don't tithes, cos there is no tithes on fish under the Law of Moses.
Originally posted by labbishLife:
In short, it means this:
Tithe= God pours his blessings upon you and let's you walk in abundance and not in lack. And God will ensure your blessings stay with you and not get taken away from you by force.
No Tithe= God WON'T omit his blessings and sustains you, but He will juz stop at the sustaining level, it will not move on to abundance, just that you have enough to get by. And little protection against forces that may come against you to snatch away what little you have.
And Malachi was expounding on the church in general, encompassing $$, temple worship, everything, NOT limiting to a single issue
Have to disagree, just look around, there are many non-christians who are very rich and blessed by Hashem in abundance.
Please do diligently study or read up on the Law of Moses in the Torah. There is no such thing as $$$ in tithes under the Law of Moses. Moreover there is no 'Church' when the Torah was given to Moses by Hashem in the year 2448 after creation.
Originally posted by labbishLife:erm.. how to say.. because alot people feel that church pastor should not be rich 4 wad reason i don't know. because they should be serving God? i compare with 'em is because i want to say God not only wants us to serve Him, but he also wants us to be the top and not the bottom. that how abraham they all are. if just because pastor are being running a succssful biz, they are said not a good pastor? thus, the church is not a gd church?
or did i misunderstand what he is trying to say?
Ok it seems that there are some serious misconception here:
"erm.. how to say.. because alot people feel that church pastor should not be rich 4 wad reason i don't know. because they should be serving God?"
I should think that any respectable pastor would not want to draw more funds then he needs. The church I used to go paid the pastor barely 3k even tho the church can afford more (the church published the accounts on monthly basis so everyone knows how the $$ were used and thats how I know his salary). Anyway, during one of his services, he said, even if the church paid him more, the $$ will end up in the bank and he rather use the $$$ to fund missions, print more tracts or other ways that can bring glory to His name.
You see, it is not we want the pastor to be poor, as along as the needs of the pastor and his family are taken care of comfortably, the extra $$$ can be channelled for better use.
In addition, if a pastor is living the expensive lifestyle, isnt he being the exact opposite of Jesus who lived a humble life?? Personally, I think its a serious breach of conduct because I have seen many potential souls being pushed away from the Lord. These souls claimed that Christians are hypocrites and cited examples of pastors not doing what the bible teaches, "to be humble".
"i compare with 'em is because i want to say God not only wants us to serve Him, but he also wants us to be the top and not the bottom. that how abraham they all are"
Let me ask you, why do you have to compare to Abraham, Solomon they all, why not you compare with the leapers, the beggers, the whores???? Jesus died to save ALL not just the elites.
Whether u r top or bottom on the social ladder has no meaning to Him. God only wants you to follow His ways and to be successful in whatever plans He has for you, be it if you are a king or a farmer.
"if just because pastor are being running a succssful biz, they are said not a good pastor? thus, the church is not a gd church?"
The role of a pastor is to lead, to educate, to guide God's children and to spread His Words. I never come across a single verse in the bible that tells a church leader to go do biz and earn $$$. Quite the opposite, Jesus in many occassions told us not to bother about earthly weath.
If a pastor is busy running a biz, strictly speaking he is wasting God's time as he could have gone out and win more souls for the Lord isnt it???
PS. This is a longest post I ever made and I hope its worth the effort, esp if it is able to correct your misconceptions. Cheers
Originally posted by Creation1656:
Have to disagree, just look around, there are many non-christians who are very rich and blessed by Hashem in abundance.
Please do diligently study or read up on the Law of Moses in the Torah. There is no such thing as $$$ in tithes under the Law of Moses. Moreover there is no 'Church' when the Torah was given to Moses by Hashem in the year 2448 after creation.
What is 10% when God sents his only son to die for my sins?
1 thess shows that paul had a day job, while working as an apostle in greece, so as to not to be a burden to the church in thesselonia.
1 corinthians states the rights of the apostles, to earn a living from spreading the Word of God. which pauls says that while it is his rights, he wishes to preach for free.
originally posted by youayu:
What is 10% when God sents his only son to die for my sins?
The issue is not about giving10% of your income for charity or good works etc, the issue is about the misuse of scriptures to collect $$$.
Please also consider Hashem command on how the poor are to be provided for under the Law of Moses.
For your benefits and study i will highlight the following verses:
"When you reap your harvest in your field and have forgotten a sheaf in the field, you shall not go back to get it; it shall be for the alien, for the orphan, and for the widow, in order that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.
"When you beat your olive tree, you shall not go over the boughs again; it shall be for the alien, for the orphan, and for the widow.
"When you gather the grapes of your vineyard, you shall not go over it again; it shall be for the alien, for the orphan, and for the widow.
"You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt; therefore I am commanding you to do this thing. Deuteronomy 24:19-22 (NASB)
'Now in case a countryman of yours becomes poor and his means with regard to you falter, then you are to sustain him, like a stranger or a sojourner, that he may live with you. Leviticus 25:35 (NASB)
"If there is a poor man with you, one of your brothers, in any of your towns in your land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand from your poor brother;
but you shall freely open your hand to him, and shall generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.
"Beware that there is no base thought in your heart, saying, 'The seventh year, the year of remission, is near,' and your eye is hostile toward your poor brother, and you give him nothing; then he may cry to the LORD against you, and it will be a sin in you.
"You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings.
"For the poor will never cease to be in the land; therefore I command you, saying, 'You shall freely open your hand to your brother, to your needy and poor in your land.' Deuteronomy 15:7-11 (NASB)
The main purpose of tithes is for temple worship and also the Levites; cos they will have no inheritance among the tribes of Isreal in the promised Land. The poor living among them will be cared for in other provisions in the Law of Moses. So please do yourself a favour- don't misuse Hashem scriptures.