How much of the Bible is true
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after all the kings and popes in ancient times who have edited it, added information, removed information, for political gains ?
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Originally posted by HyperionDCZ:
after all the kings and popes in ancient times who have edited it, added information, removed information, for political gains ?
It is a sin to edit the bible.
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then why did they do it ?
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to make life for the christians better?
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Originally posted by HyperionDCZ:
after all the kings and popes in ancient times who have edited it, added information, removed information, for political gains ?
Could you share with us some instances when the bible was edited ? It would help folks answer your question. -
Originally posted by Omnia:
Could you share with us some instances when the bible was edited ? It would help folks answer your question.
doesnt the fact that there are different versions of the bible used by different denominations say something ?which is the real thing, the protestant or catholic bible?
or did God authorize the creation of different texts for different groups? (i really doubt it)
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Originally posted by HyperionDCZ:
doesnt the fact that there are different versions of the bible used by different denominations say something ?which is the real thing, the protestant or catholic bible?
or did God authorize the creation of different texts for different groups? (i really doubt it)
woah...
starting a war here ah....
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The bible was never edited. The text was edited before it is called the bible.
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10% at most?
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Originally posted by HyperionDCZ:
doesnt the fact that there are different versions of the bible used by different denominations say something ?which is the real thing, the protestant or catholic bible?
or did God authorize the creation of different texts for different groups? (i really doubt it)
If by 'versions' you mean 'Douay-Rheims version', 'King James Version' etc, these are bible translations. We have to remember that the bible authors wrote in Hebrew and Greek, not English. We need English translations if we are to be able to read and comprehend the bible. The internet has lots of extra info on the origins of these translations if you're interested.
Some translations try to be more precise by being literal and preserving subtle cues in the text but these often end up being harder to read because of differences in grammar etc between Hebrew/Greek and English. But less literal translations that make it easier for the English reader risk losing precision and the introduction of the doctrinal views of the translator. Bottomline is that there is no perfect translation. Different translations exist for both Catholic as well as Protestant bibles.
So what's the difference between a Catholic bible and a Protestant one ? The Protestant bible has seven fewer books (and missing portions from two other books) than the Catholic bible. So what happened ?
The bible is actually a collection of books which includes biographies, poems, letters etc. Around the 4th century AD, the Church formalised the collection of writings that were to be included in the bible (and therefore declared to be the inspired word of God) and those that were not. This gave birth to the Catholic bible that we know of today which consists of 73 books. Christendom considered this to be the bible for over a thousand years. It was only in the 16th century that a monk - Martin Luther, came along and threw out 7 books (and parts of two other books) from the bible when he broke away from the Catholic Church during the so called Reformation. This 'reduced' bible is now what Protestants use. Why did Martin Luther throw out those books ? The answer would differ depending on whom you ask but I can't help but think that a strong motivation was for doctrinal reasons - he did not agree with some of the stuff in those books.
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Originally posted by HyperionDCZ:
after all the kings and popes in ancient times who have edited it, added information, removed information, for political gains ?
all the bible is the same.. its just different way of expressing it..
For Example : I have a apple
: i got a apple
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Originally posted by youyayu:
all the bible is the same.. its just different way of expressing it..
For Example : I have a apple
: i got a apple
: I own a appleactually, the bible consist of the gospel of a few selected people.
the new testament consist of the writings of these people
it is possible to have diff version.. just include diff gospel to tell the same story.
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one of the important people of the bible definitely have a gospel, but it is not featured in the bible. guess who?
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Originally posted by skythewood:
one of the important people of the bible definitely have a gospel, but it is not featured in the bible. guess who?
More than one actually, contrary to what Dan Brown would like you to believe.
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Originally posted by Kuali Baba:
More than one actually, contrary to what Dan Brown would like you to believe.
so who?
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i dun really agree to this topic dun u noe that it is insulting to all us chritians? did u read the book of revelations? isn't thats wat happening now?
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Originally posted by snapfish:
i dun really agree to this topic dun u noe that it is insulting to all us chritians? did u read the book of revelations? isn't thats wat happening now?
sorry if you feel offended.
but out of curiosity, what is happening now?
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rice are going expensive, the cheap things in the past are expensive, countries are attackingf countries, read revelations and u will noe.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
so who?
Judas, Mary, MM, Peter, etc. They don't add any value to the Christian message that isn't already in the Cannonical gospels.
And the truth that is in the Bible has not changed, as it is found in Christ's teachings. One would be missing the woods for the trees by focussing on historical accuracies and other things.
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Originally posted by snapfish:
rice are going expensive, the cheap things in the past are expensive, countries are attackingf countries, read revelations and u will noe.
that's been happening for... the past 100 years?
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there is historian evidence until now.
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Originally posted by Kuali Baba:
Judas, Mary, MM, Peter, etc. They don't add any value to the Christian message that isn't already in the Cannonical gospels.
And the truth that is in the Bible has not changed, as it is found in Christ's teachings. One would be missing the woods for the trees by focussing on historical accuracies and other things.
these guys not that important, they are like the bad guys, right?
the gospel i interested in is the one jesus wrote. everyone wrote gospel in that era, why not him? that missing gospel should have been the most important one.
that's all i have to say... suggest the mod lock or delete this thread bah... it is indeed not very nice...
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Originally posted by snapfish:
there is historian evidence until now.
not sure what you mean. bye bye...
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hope that u noe that everything of the bible is IMPORTANT!!!!!!
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Originally posted by skythewood:
these guys not that important, they are like the bad guys, right?
the gospel i interested in is the one jesus wrote. everyone wrote gospel in that era, why not him? that missing gospel should have been the most important one.
that's all i have to say... suggest the mod lock or delete this thread bah... it is indeed not very nice...
The first statement is sooo off, my dear. And the gospels were initially passed down through oral tradition.