Why go church?
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A common reply would be for fellowship, but for teenagers, we dont talk much about God or our lives troubles etc to each other. It would be merely another venue to make friends and socialise; basically no deeper meaning.
For sermon? online sermons work well too.
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And let us consider how to provoke one another to love and good deeds, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching. Heb 10:24-25
For youths, as you have said, fellowship is one of the reasons. Someday, these friendship formed while young will be useful through your life journey.
Secondly, it will be good to have some adult friends as role models you can learn from. Learn from their experiences, good and bad.
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Originally posted by sillyme:
And let us consider how to provoke one another to love and good deeds, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching. Heb 10:24-25
For youths, as you have said, fellowship is one of the reasons. Someday, these friendship formed while young will be useful through your life journey.
Secondly, it will be good to have some adult friends as role models you can learn from. Learn from their experiences, good and bad.
Sillyme shu shu,to get the youngsters correct people to emulate?
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Sillyme shu shu,to get the youngsters correct people to emulate?
aiya, i seldom post. don't be so unfriendly lah.
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lol, many of my friends told me that they go church is to make more girl friends and they even discussed which church got the more pretty gals and hope to join them...as an ex-christine i have gone through these thoughts..hahaz :P
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Originally posted by sillyme:
For youths, as you have said, fellowship is one of the reasons. Someday, these friendship formed while young will be useful through your life journey.
XD. I said that fellowship is not a valid reason, since like evolPIG said, which is true, many people go church to see chiobus. Moreover, most teenagers dont seek fellowship or discussion about christian life, difficulties in life etc.Only very good friends are 'useful.' Those normal friends or even gangs are easily forgotton once you leave the place.
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Originally posted by davidche:
XD. I said that fellowship is not a valid reason, since like evolPIG said, which is true, many people go church to see chiobus. Moreover, most teenagers dont seek fellowship or discussion about christian life, difficulties in life etc.Only very good friends are 'useful.' Those normal friends or even gangs are easily forgotton once you leave the place.
see chiobus... i guess that's what happens when the church is filled with unregenerate people.
church gatherings exist for the fellowship of the saints - to encourage one another, to serve one another, to edify and build up one another, etc. Goes beyond just mere chats and conversations.
As much as there're those who dont seek what you seek, im sure there are others who do. If you find that those surrounding u are pp who only go and see chiobus, then i would suggest u start finding (actively) like-minded people who dont have that agenda. Either change cell group, zone, change church, or find other means of doing so. I hesitate to think of this forum as a place for u to seek the fellowship u want.
One doesnt go to church merely for sermons, that's just one aspect. A christian doesnt grow (mature, fruits of the spirit, etc) without a context. The spiritual body of Christ provides that environment.
Dont give up.
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further more, i have rarely seen a christin that is good enough to the ppl around him.. manyy of my christin friends disparage other ppl and their attitude really suks
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Originally posted by EvolutionPIG:
further more, i have rarely seen a christin that is good enough to the ppl around him.. manyy of my christin friends disparage other ppl and their attitude really suks
i wonder what happens when you see that happening? do u join in or not? As James 4:17 says, "Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn't do it, sins."
But surely, that is not a strong reason to leave the faith. Do you put your faith in man, or in God? Because if you look at man's behaviour as the sole gauge of the validity of a faith, you will most certainly be disappointed.
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Originally posted by sillyme:
aiya, i seldom post. don't be so unfriendly lah.
Aiyohz, like that also unfriendly.
Bcos everyone is a witness to God, hence must emulate the best of humanity mah.
Of course, doesn't differ from my stance that there are people who are damned from the start.
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Hmm.... not to offend anyone but the church need donations as well to function. Thus the reason to go is... just kidding...
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Originally posted by 24/7:
see chiobus... i guess that's what happens when the church is filled with unregenerate people.
church gatherings exist for the fellowship of the saints - to encourage one another, to serve one another, to edify and build up one another, etc. Goes beyond just mere chats and conversations.
As much as there're those who dont seek what you seek, im sure there are others who do. If you find that those surrounding u are pp who only go and see chiobus, then i would suggest u start finding (actively) like-minded people who dont have that agenda. Either change cell group, zone, change church, or find other means of doing so. I hesitate to think of this forum as a place for u to seek the fellowship u want.
One doesnt go to church merely for sermons, that's just one aspect. A christian doesnt grow (mature, fruits of the spirit, etc) without a context. The spiritual body of Christ provides that environment.
Dont give up.
hmm. I was thinking, if in cell grps i talk openly about my own problems, would the like-minded people with the correct purpose in church, share their problems wif me too.
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Originally posted by EvolutionPIG:
further more, i have rarely seen a christin that is good enough to the ppl around him.. manyy of my christin friends disparage other ppl and their attitude really suks
very true. this is kinda prevalent -
Christians go church to worship GOD together with other fellow Christians.
People can go church for other reasons too, mostly personal reasons.
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Originally posted by davidche:
hmm. I was thinking, if in cell grps i talk openly about my own problems, would the like-minded people with the correct purpose in church, share their problems wif me too.
why not? doesnt hurt to try right?
but with all things, sure helps to be discerning. not that u shld unleash a verbal diarrhoea upon those whom you're not familiar with, but to see whether the situation is right and relevant.i guess this is about knowing how to maintain or start friendships, comes with trial and error.
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Is refusal to go to church satanic?Because I know some satanists avoid churches and temples.Since I began indulging in some dark websites two years ago, I have turn down my friend's church invitations.
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Originally posted by Soosiang.pornhost.ong7:
Is refusal to go to church satanic?Because I know some satanists avoid churches and temples.Since I began indulging in some dark websites two years ago, I have turn down my friend's church invitations.
No, as there always have been hermits who practice their religion away from people. As for satanic practices, are you referring to Anton De Lavey or some other esoteric practices? -
Originally posted by caleb_chiang:
Hmm.... not to offend anyone but the church need donations as well to function. Thus the reason to go is... just kidding...
Not offending at all but in fact it is the real truth as every religion need money to stay alive.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
No, as there always have been hermits who practice their religion away from people. As for satanic practices, are you referring to Anton De Lavey or some other esoteric practices?My father said these two websites are satanic: satansrapture.com and jesus-is-savior.com/index.htm.
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Originally posted by Soosiang.pornhost.ong7:
My father said these two websites are satanic: satansrapture.com and jesus-is-savior.com/index.htm.
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Originally posted by davidche:
A common reply would be for fellowship, but for teenagers, we dont talk much about God or our lives troubles etc to each other. It would be merely another venue to make friends and socialise; basically no deeper meaning.
For sermon? online sermons work well too.
Originally posted by davidche:
XD. I said that fellowship is not a valid reason, since like evolPIG said, which is true, many people go church to see chiobus. Moreover, most teenagers dont seek fellowship or discussion about christian life, difficulties in life etc.Only very good friends are 'useful.' Those normal friends or even gangs are easily forgotton once you leave the place.
dave, aside from the standard answer from unker sillyme in Heb 10:24-25, I'd say going to church is a good place to network, be it your peers, the opposite sex, seniors etc.
in itself, there is really nothing wrong to want to mix with the opposite sex, unless that is the only intention.
you may remember that i say i belong to a traditional congregation in a church that has both contemporary as well as traditional congregation. it may also not be wrong to assume that only the contem congre attracts the younger crowd. However it does seem strange even to me to see a lot of young people in the traditional worship. As far as I can observe these teenagers are very well balanced, and are NOT THERE for the opposite sex. They are extremely active in their participation be it in playing the piano or the organ, or being the scripture reader or usher. Even the recent Bible Quiz drew heaps of teenagers. So I don't believe your observations are universally true.
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God is good
man is farking cb -
Originally posted by TehJarVu:
God is good
man is farking cb
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Went to St andrews Cathedral today.
Basically the sermon is about Church.
And ideal church member wld have a :
Intimate relationship with God - Praise and worship
Good relationship with Church leader/ Pastor
Good relationship with fellow christians - socialise
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go church to c gals with mini skirts.