Death according to the bible
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For awhile I didn’t know for sure what is going to happen when people die according to the Bible. I always thought that when I died, my spirit would depart my body and I would perhaps after spending sometime wandering on earth, be judged according to what I did in my life by God and either receive eternal life or be shamed and tormented in hell.
I refused to see the whole of what the Bible teaches.
And now I’d like to share you on what I know from what the bible teaches us. In my opinion it is important to have the correct understanding on what would happen to us Christians after we died.
Samuel 28:1-25, Saul talks with Samuel’s ghost,
I begin at verse 13
“Don’t be afraid, “ Saul replied. “Just tell me what you see.”
She answered, “I see a spirit rising up out of the ground.”
“What does it look like?”
“It looks like an old man wearing a robe.”
Saul knew it was Samuel, so he bowed down low.
“Why are you bothering me by bringing me up like this?” Samuel asked.
Note that Samuel said that Saul has bothered him by bringing him up(not down) suggesting that Samuel was called from the Kingdom of death instead of heaven.
The words bothering me means that Saul has disrupted Samuel’s sleep in the Kingdom of death.
Let me quote Luke 8:40-54 or Matthew 9:18-26 or Mark 5:21-43
It’s the story of Jesus who was begged by a man called Jairus to come to his home because his 12 year old child was dying. She was his only daughter.
Begin at verse 49(to make it short)
[read the bible if you want to read the whole story]
While Jesus was speaking, someone came from Jairus’s home and said, “Your daughter has died! Why bother the teacher any more?”
When Jesus heard this, he told Jairus, “Don’t worry! Have faith, and your daughter will get well.”
Jesus went into the house, but he didn’t let anyone else go with him, except Peter, John, James, and the girls father and mother. Everyone was crying and weeping for the girl. But Jesus said, “The child isn’t dead. She’s just asleep.” The people laughed at him because they knew she was dead.
Jesus took hold of the girl’s hand and said, “Child, get up!” She came back to life and got straight up. Jesus told them to give her something to eat. Her parents were surprised, but Jesus ordered them not to tell anyone what had happened.
Second John 11:1-43, Jesus brings Lazarus to life
I begin at verse 11-14
[read the bible to get the full story]
The he[Jesus] told them, “Our friend Lazarus is asleep, and I’m going there to wake him up.”
They replied, “Lord, if he’s asleep, he’ll get better.” Jesus really meant that Lazarus was dead, but they thought he was talking only about sleep.
Then Jesus told them plainly, “Lazarus is dead! I’m glad that I wasn’t there, because now you’ll have a chance to put your faith in me. Let’s go to him.
Verse 23
Jesus told her, “Your brother will live again!”
Martha answered, “I know that he’ll be raised to life on the last day, when all the dead are raised.”
Jesus then said, “I am the one who raises the dead to life! Everyone who has faith in me will live, even if they die. And everyone who has lives because of faith in me will never really die. Do you believe this?”
There are actually more verses from the bible that gives us insight as to what would happen once we died. I hope what I wrote here can serve a purpose on your life.
The Lord who is able to bring us back to life as in Lazarus and the only daughter of Jairus is also able to raise us and give us eternal life. Lazarus and Jairus's only daughter would die again but whoever shares the Kingdom of God would no longer die.
Jesus also spoke that He would raise all the people who believe in Him on the last day so that whoever eat His flesh and drink His blood would not die but be risen on the last day. I let you find which verse this is ;). My hands are cramped already.
Summary:
All the dead would descend to the Kingdom of death, a place where all the dead are gathered. There they would lose all form of awareness, of themselves, of time, of God and of faith. They would cease to be aware of anything and becoming nothing. In a way this is to be likened with sleeping. But there is one big difference that in sleep there’s always perpetual life while in death there is no life at all.
I guess it's too late now to say "Damn don't eat the bloody fruit!"
or asked "Why did you eat the bloody fruit?"
Knowing and believing this, I suggest for you fellow Christians out there to make full use of this life. Let’s not let a moment to lose. If you work hard present them to the Lord for you shall rest in the Kingdom of death until the Lord rises you to life, when you do kindness present them to the Lord for you can no longer do any kindness or after God's own heart in the Kingdom of death, when you worship the Lord, worship Him with all your heart for your awareness of God would cease in the Kingdom of death. Enjoy life for you will no longer enjoy anything in the Kingdom of death. Treasure your relationships for you will have none in the Kingdom of death. Pursue your salvation for you can no longer pursue it in the Kingdom of death.
May Jesus Christ our savior and our Lord rise we all from our sleep in the end of time. May we share His kingdom and glory to have the best of life when the Lord comes to rise us from our perpetual death on the last day. Treasure life!
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im so happy for u to finally see that death is always likened to the state of being asleep throughout the bible.
that is what death really is to God. only he has the power to raise the dead back to live. only those who WERE(meaning no such thing now) given the authority to raise dead will be able to do so too.
most who have died frm last time till the last days will be resurrected to learn about God for those who did not have the chance. those who already is pleasing to God will live forever. those who denied God's authority will go back to sleep forever..never was there anything written in the bible of a eternal tormenting hell. your kingdom of death is used as a metaphor ya? so in the end, even fallen angels a.k.a demons will jalan there where they too will sleep.(these is after the 1000 years of rulership by JC).
being tormented eternally in "hell" is not a bible teaching. being asleep in death,being ceased in existence knowing nothing at all (conscious of nothing) is a bible truth.
i congrats u again for seeing and acknowledging this simple truth that so many "christians" even leader class dont see or know.
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hmm. if i understand properly, that "samuel" isn't really the prophet samuel. it's a familiar spirit.
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
hmm. if i understand properly, that "samuel" isn't really the prophet samuel. it's a familiar spirit.
by familiar, do u mean things we know of?? or a familiar spirit, the kind witches and frens uses??but the quote of samuel, confine is not samuel spirit..since it would have gone back to God.
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I always thought we go heaven after we die.
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Thank you for sharing TS and the further interpretation domonkassyu. Appreciate it very much!
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
im so happy for u to finally see that death is always likened to the state of being asleep throughout the bible.
that is what death really is to God. only he has the power to raise the dead back to live. only those who WERE(meaning no such thing now) given the authority to raise dead will be able to do so too.
most who have died frm last time till the last days will be resurrected to learn about God for those who did not have the chance. those who already is pleasing to God will live forever. those who denied God's authority will go back to sleep forever..never was there anything written in the bible of a eternal tormenting hell. your kingdom of death is used as a metaphor ya? so in the end, even fallen angels a.k.a demons will jalan there where they too will sleep.(these is after the 1000 years of rulership by JC).
being tormented eternally in "hell" is not a bible teaching. being asleep in death,being ceased in existence knowing nothing at all (conscious of nothing) is a bible truth.
i congrats u again for seeing and acknowledging this simple truth that so many "christians" even leader class dont see or know.
What about the burn in hell and stuffs if you do not believe? Enlighten me pls :D
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
by familiar, do u mean things we know of?? or a familiar spirit, the kind witches and frens uses??but the quote of samuel, confine is not samuel spirit..since it would have gone back to God.
familiar spirit.
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
familiar spirit.
what is familiar spirit? Charismatic talk about it but nobody bothers to tell what is familiar spirit.
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"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." -Revelation 20:14,15
You are going to hell my friend if you do not get saved! The Bible says that hell was created for the devil and his demons, not for one single human being (Matthew 25:41)
Apologise for the big fonts and colour, i just copy from this website.
You said death according to Jesus and GOD is like sleeping. So in the 2nd death if we still do not believe, the soul will burn in hell? Kindly clarify :D
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Eat jesus's flesh and drink blood??? Really?
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yes in Saul and the Witch of Endor what they really saw is just a familiar spirit.
go read the rich man and lazarus. Luke16:26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.
when we die as a believer we'll go straight to heaven. those who do not believe goes to a place call hades UNTIL the day of judgement. you can safetly say that hell now is empty.
Revelation 20:13
The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
and then what happens?
Revelation 20:14
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. And whosoever was not found in the book of life was also cast into the lake of fire.
and to domonkassyu yes the bible do teach of an eternally tormenting hell.
Jesus spent much time warning us about the "the fire that shall never be quenched" -- a place of "weeping and gnashing of teeth". in fact he talks more about the fires of hell then the joys in heaven. it is an eternal punishment meaning you can't get out of there forever if you are there.
hell is originally created for Satan and his minions for their eternal punishment for going against God. but understand that Satan wants you to join him. so on the day of judgement Jesus will come down a second time and judge. Satan and his followers including unbelievers will be cast down to hell forever.
so hell is empty now and the unbelievers who are dead before the day of judgement goes to a place call Hades then where then is Satan and his minions?
they are roaming the earth right down ruling over this world. Satan is prince of this world
John 16:11 and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
he is seeking people to join him in hell and even Christians too! don't be fooled!
John 12:31 Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out.
I pray to for all brothers and sisters in Christ. STAND STRONG! FOR VICTORY BELONGS TO JESUS!
read on Revalations guys.
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Originally posted by Evangel:
"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." -Revelation 20:14,15
You are going to hell my friend if you do not get saved! The Bible says that hell was created for the devil and his demons, not for one single human being (Matthew 25:41)
Apologise for the big fonts and colour, i just copy from this website.
You said death according to Jesus and GOD is like sleeping. So in the 2nd death if we still do not believe, the soul will burn in hell? Kindly clarify :D
sory..was working..as the big quote u gave..one of the sentence is "this is the second death"..there you go...u have answered your own question. =)
seriously its either my memory is getting bad or i dun knw what happen..i dun remember the bible saying the hell is for demons..
the hell we use now usually is a hot bbq area hosted by satan and frens. humans go there for bbq.
the hell used in the bible was originally a hebrew word sheoul or sth..it more or less meant grave. later the greek used hades for the same meaning..
ever buring with sulphur and fire is often used in the bible to mean total destruction. cities were also associated with this sulphur and fire thing. we dont see them still burnin now ya??
hope its clearer =)
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Originally posted by PanicHasBeenHushed:
Eat jesus's flesh and drink blood??? Really?
no..as a symbolic meaning..how much flesh and blood u tink JC has??farm him so we can have a good supply?? -
Originally posted by Civilgoh:
what is familiar spirit? Charismatic talk about it but nobody bothers to tell what is familiar spirit.
demons in disguise..demons using animals like a ventriloquist would to help demon worshippers..many mordern mediums still uses this short of demon worshipping. -
Originally posted by xalkyrie:
yes in Saul and the Witch of Endor what they really saw is just a familiar spirit.
go read the rich man and lazarus. Luke16:26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.
when we die as a believer we'll go straight to heaven. those who do not believe goes to a place call hades UNTIL the day of judgement. you can safetly say that hell now is empty.
Revelation 20:13
The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
and then what happens?
Revelation 20:14
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. And whosoever was not found in the book of life was also cast into the lake of fire.
and to domonkassyu yes the bible do teach of an eternally tormenting hell.
Jesus spent much time warning us about the "the fire that shall never be quenched" -- a place of "weeping and gnashing of teeth". in fact he talks more about the fires of hell then the joys in heaven. it is an eternal punishment meaning you can't get out of there forever if you are there.
hell is originally created for Satan and his minions for their eternal punishment for going against God. but understand that Satan wants you to join him. so on the day of judgement Jesus will come down a second time and judge. Satan and his followers including unbelievers will be cast down to hell forever.
so hell is empty now and the unbelievers who are dead before the day of judgement goes to a place call Hades then where then is Satan and his minions?
they are roaming the earth right down ruling over this world. Satan is prince of this world
John 16:11 and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
he is seeking people to join him in hell and even Christians too! don't be fooled!
John 12:31 Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out.
I pray to for all brothers and sisters in Christ. STAND STRONG! FOR VICTORY BELONGS TO JESUS!
read on Revalations guys.
thanks for the many quotes. however, i believe this is what is being taught in mainstream...mayb u can read on my earlier explaination as it is the same??
cheers =)
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Originally posted by Evangel:
"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." -Revelation 20:14,15
You are going to hell my friend if you do not get saved! The Bible says that hell was created for the devil and his demons, not for one single human being (Matthew 25:41)
Apologise for the big fonts and colour, i just copy from this website.
You said death according to Jesus and GOD is like sleeping. So in the 2nd death if we still do not believe, the soul will burn in hell? Kindly clarify :D
Hi Evangel it's true that there is hell.
Jesus actually spoke that in the last day the dead will be risen and some would be given glory and share eternal life(be given the right to eat the fruit of life) while some other would be shamed and receive eternal contempt.
The dead would await this last day in a state of total unawareness likened to sleeping and would only be raised then judged and be given either eternal life for those who did good or be condemned to hell for those who did evil on the last day.
Jesus descended into the Kindgom of death for three days before being raised by God for the Kingdom of death could not hold Him as He was a man of no sin.
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Originally posted by davidche:
I always thought we go heaven after we die.
I thought likewise too...until the day God revealed something to me that quite left me feeling uneasy(You don't have to believe me but believe what I wrote on death). The very next day some Christians gave my home a brochure of what death means to Christians, some coincidence. Since then I digged the bible a little, asked around and read a Christian book on death. Each one giving me a little understanding of what I've been allowed to feel.
God bless
Don't be afraid of death, that is not why I wrote what I wrote. The message is not to waste your life. It's a blessing really. When you worship God worship Him with all your heart for you will no longer be able to worship God in the Kingdom of death and so on as I wrote in my first post. Don't take life as granted. Do good to after God's own heart and try to pursue your salvation by doing good in your life. Because the dead can no longer change its fate. The good point is that since the dead is not aware of anything including time, the last day would not be felt as being too long. But still it's not a state of blessings either. The dead is at the mercy of God as there would no longer be interaction i.e, you praying, worshipping, praising God. God would still remember His people though.
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
Hi Evangel it's true that there is hell.
Jesus actually spoke that in the last day the dead will be risen and some would be given glory and share eternal life(be given the right to eat the fruit of life) while some other would be shamed and receive eternal contempt.
The dead would await this last day in a state of total unawareness likened to sleeping and would only be raised then judged and be given either eternal life for those who did good or be condemned to hell for those who did evil on the last day.
Jesus descended into the Kindgom of death for three days before being raised by God for the Kingdom of death could not hold Him as He was a man of no sin.
u have another vision?
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Originally posted by davidche:
I always thought we go heaven after we die.
this is what mainstream christianity has taught all along..if mainstream is always right..this is surely wrong.look back in eden..its on earth.1st humans..on earth. book of revelations talk about most people staying on earth also.
the humans going to heaven are few and selected. a hundred and forty four thousands as in the book of revelations. tink not much chance any of us going heaven..but u might wanna check out this site to secure a place?? reserveaspotinheaven.com
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
u have another vision?
No domonkassyu. In my whole life I've only had 1 vision of Jesus in glory. That was when I was in my 7th grade.
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
No domonkassyu. In my whole life I've only had 1 vision of Jesus in glory. That was when I was in my 7th grade.
oh..i thought u had another one..say,im very interested to know about your vision. and also to your beliefs. -
I thought I would like to share this verse
John 6:22-59 The bread that gives Life
I start from verse 53-59,
[Read the bible for the complete scripture]
Jesus answered:
I tell you for certain that you won't live unless you eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of Man. But if you do eat my flesh and drink my blood, you will have eternal life, and I will raise you to life on the last day. My flesh is the true food, and my blood is the true drink. If you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you are one with me, and I am one with you.
The living Father sent me, and I have life because of him. Now everyone who eats my flesh will live because of me. The bread that comes down from heaven isn't like what your ancestors ate.They died, but whoever eats this bread will live forever.
Jesus was teaching in a Jewish place of worship in capernaum when he said these things.
Verse 38-40,
I didn't come from heaven to do what I want! I came to do what the Father wants me to do. He sent me, and he wants to make certain that none of the ones he has given me will be lost. Instead, he wants me to raise them to life on the last day. My father wants everyone who sees the Son to have faith in him and to have eternal life. Then I will raise them to life on the last day.
Go bless you all, everybody, tomorrow is Friday! Wohoo don't forget to enjoy life!
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
oh..i thought u had another one..say,im very interested to know about your vision. and also to your beliefs.Perhaps it would be more appropriate in PM?
I'm only an ordinary Catholic.
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Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:
I thought I would like to share this verse
John 6:22-59 The bread that gives Life
I start from verse 53-59,
[Read the bible for the complete scripture]
Jesus answered:
I tell you for certain that you won't live unless you eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of Man. But if you do eat my flesh and drink my blood, you will have eternal life, and I will raise you to life on the last day. My flesh is the true food, and my blood is the true drink. If you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you are one with me, and I am one with you.
The living Father sent me, and I have life because of him. Now everyone who eats my flesh will live because of me. The bread that comes down from heaven isn't like what your ancestors ate.They died, but whoever eats this bread will live forever.
Jesus was teaching in a Jewish place of worship in capernaum when he said these things.
Go bless everybody, tomorrow is Friday! Wohoo don't forget to enjoy life!
The living Father sent me, and I have life because of him----i so love this quote..