with more and more signs of revelation being fulfilled. it makes one tremble in fear of God. it is very obvious now that the idols of copper,ceramics,gold that can neither see nor hear being worshipped by millions are false gods. but there are other gods like money,self,patriotism that people are worshipping yet not knowingly.
are christians friends aware of this danger as armageddon draws ever closer? have christian friends make their choice for God's doctrine instead of men and God's kingdom instead of mens'?
soon there will be a great crowd so huge that none has ever seen. they will be worshipping the living God. yet also, soon our lives here will be made very miserable that those without the mark of the beast cannot buy/sell and those without the seal of God will die off.
pray that all who knows the word of God do more witnessing that more shall be saved.
Dear TS,
I admire you for your faith in your own religion. However, I would urge you to be more tolerant towards other people's religion.
By declaring that idols of various materials are FALSE GODs, you are assuming that other religions are nothing but a fairy-tale.
I respect you and your religion. However, what I can't understand is your lack of respect for others. Of course there are endless debates on whether so and so exists. Before you start proclaiming something of no substance, please take into considerations that many religions happen B.C. not A.D.
Peace to all.
Originally posted by domonkassyu:with more and more signs of revelation being fulfilled. it makes one tremble in fear of God. it is very obvious now that the idols of copper,ceramics,gold that can neither see nor hear being worshipped by millions are false gods. but there are other gods like money,self,patriotism that people are worshipping yet not knowingly.
are christians friends aware of this danger as armageddon draws ever closer? have christian friends make their choice for God's doctrine instead of men and God's kingdom instead of mens'?
soon there will be a great crowd so huge that none has ever seen. they will be worshipping the living God. yet also, soon our lives here will be made very miserable that those without the mark of the beast cannot buy/sell and those without the seal of God will die off.
pray that all who knows the word of God do more witnessing that more shall be saved.
Please lah, the world will not end, everybody was saying it will end in yr 2000 and look where we are now! Humanity is progressing as a whole and not cowering in a cave waiting for the world to end. Its people like you who are fear mongering around and doing nothing to help humanity progress.
Well thats too bad.The world is already starting to end as we speak.Notice the massive raining everyday?This is caused by the icebergs melting and lots of water being stored in the skies.Dont think that god will be able to do much.
Originally posted by bratpig:Dear TS,
I admire you for your faith in your own religion. However, I would urge you to be more tolerant towards other people's religion.
By declaring that idols of various materials are FALSE GODs, you are assuming that other religions are nothing but a fairy-tale.
I respect you and your religion. However, what I can't understand is your lack of respect for others. Of course there are endless debates on whether so and so exists. Before you start proclaiming something of no substance, please take into considerations that many religions happen B.C. not A.D.
Peace to all.
dear bratpig( i like your name..hehe) as in my thread, what i had said is based on the bible. so maybe people of other faith might be offended. i apologize if there are such incidents. however, the time is short
eh. i thought u aren't a christian? =x
yeah. it's near la. but.. no sense of urgency yet. =x
Originally posted by shade343:Please lah, the world will not end, everybody was saying it will end in yr 2000 and look where we are now! Humanity is progressing as a whole and not cowering in a cave waiting for the world to end. Its people like you who are fear mongering around and doing nothing to help humanity progress.
I would really laugh at you if the world ended tomorrow. Who the hell died and gave you the authority to blatantly churn out confident statements like that? You are one funny man lah.
Originally posted by shade343:Please lah, the world will not end, everybody was saying it will end in yr 2000 and look where we are now! Humanity is progressing as a whole and not cowering in a cave waiting for the world to end. Its people like you who are fear mongering around and doing nothing to help humanity progress.
seems like you are living in your own world. thats y u feel so safe.. religions aside.. the planet is already weakening. global warming worsening.deserts getting bigger. more natural catastrophes and more serious each time. natural resources drying up. nothing last forever on earth. even the sun will burn out one day. may i humbly suggest to you to subscribe to magazines like national geographic and similiar articles to know more of your dying planet?
Originally posted by dumbdumb!:eh. i thought u aren't a christian? =x
yeah. it's near la. but.. no sense of urgency yet. =x
u mean me ar? i jus accept JC as God.. i never dun accept him as the lamb. =) near.. but also cant have sense of urgency. JC says he will come in the night meaning unexpected lehz..
hmm. haha i just read the papers.. water is the next thing to be short of besides food. globally.
but, let's not panic ya? it's not end of the world yet.. but it's definitely close la. for christians... let's keep watch on our own lives.. very impt, cuz many will grow cold.. =/
Originally posted by domonkassyu:
u mean me ar? i jus accept JC as God.. i never dun accept him as the lamb. =) near.. but also cant have sense of urgency. JC says he will come in the night meaning unexpected lehz..
confused.
Originally posted by dumbdumb!:hmm. haha i just read the papers.. water is the next thing to be short of besides food. globally.
but, let's not panic ya? it's not end of the world yet.. but it's definitely close la. for christians... let's keep watch on our own lives.. very impt, cuz many will grow cold.. =/
for christains..not just your own lives or u have to a/c for it to God. water.. wild beasts attacks..then the earthquakes that kills alot of people that will dwarf the szechuan quake. yeah, lets not panic..
confused?? ok, i do not accept JC being God though i accept him being the lamb that died for humans sins like we are supposed to.
Originally posted by domonkassyu:with more and more signs of revelation being fulfilled. it makes one tremble in fear of God. it is very obvious now that the idols of copper,ceramics,gold that can neither see nor hear being worshipped by millions are false gods. but there are other gods like money,self,patriotism that people are worshipping yet not knowingly.
are christians friends aware of this danger as armageddon draws ever closer? have christian friends make their choice for God's doctrine instead of men and God's kingdom instead of mens'?
soon there will be a great crowd so huge that none has ever seen. they will be worshipping the living God. yet also, soon our lives here will be made very miserable that those without the mark of the beast cannot buy/sell and those without the seal of God will die off.
pray that all who knows the word of God do more witnessing that more shall be saved.
Christian God is all knowing, thus He already knows who will be saved of who will not be...so why should Christians tremble at the thought of Armageddon or the end of this world? And in the first place, why should God be feared? Isn't He supposed to be a loving "Father" to all of us? If He is loving, then He will want what is best for us, and end this miserable world as soon as possible.
You asked whether our Christian friends have made their choice for God, but I thought Christians have already made their choices. How can one call himself a "Christian" if he had not made his choice to follow God? Wouldn't that be hypocritical if one claims to be a Christian and yet still undecided about the teachings of the Bible?
The early Christians continued to worship God and continued to be happy and hopeful even though they were persecuted, I don't see why the Christians today should be afraid if the signs and prophecies in the Bible are coming true. In fact they should rejoice because their God is coming to take them home.
For me, my world will end when I die. I will not know anything, or feel anything. I will rot in a coffin or burnt into ashes...from dust to dust...return to nothingness.
Originally posted by domonkassyu:
for christains..not just your own lives or u have to a/c for it to God. water.. wild beasts attacks..then the earthquakes that kills alot of people that will dwarf the szechuan quake. yeah, lets not panic..confused?? ok, i do not accept JC being God though i accept him being the lamb that died for humans sins like we are supposed to.
lol like tt also can. =x
k la. the explicitly said requirement is, those who has the Son, has life, those who do not have the son, do not have life, those who call on the name of the Lord, shall be saved.
i guess that works too =x
by the way. because i haven't been paying attention to this thread and the others. i'm just curious, how do you settle it that the bible says that "the Word is God" and yet not believe that Jesus is God?
yeah.. don't panic.. God didn't forewarn us just so we can panic.
panic = lack of peace = lack of faith.
but be watchful and do our part as salt and light of this world. =)
Originally posted by Kachui:Christian God is all knowing, thus He already knows who will be saved of who will not be...so why should Christians tremble at the thought of Armageddon or the end of this world? And in the first place, why should God be feared? Isn't He supposed to be a loving "Father" to all of us? If He is loving, then He will want what is best for us, and end this miserable world as soon as possible.
You asked whether our Christian friends have made their choice for God, but I thought Christians have already made their choices. How can one call himself a "Christian" if he had not made his choice to follow God? Wouldn't that be hypocritical if one claims to be a Christian and yet still undecided about the teachings of the Bible?
The early Christians continued to worship God and continued to be happy and hopeful even though they were persecuted, I don't see why the Christians today should be afraid if the signs and prophecies in the Bible are coming true. In fact they should rejoice because their God is coming to take them home.
For me, my world will end when I die. I will not know anything, or feel anything. I will rot in a coffin or burnt into ashes...from dust to dust...return to nothingness.
yep.. it is possible ah. i've known so many people who wear the identity "christian" like a cheap shirt, useful only when filling in the "religion" tab on resume.
it's... not so much what you call yourself, but.. how you live your faith? =)
having said that.. christians are also human, prone to human weaknesses. it all boils down to whether they live by the spirit or not lor. if they yield to the HS, they won't want to lead a life of sin, vice versa.
i'm still on my own journey of faith too. as most of everyone in EH knows, i'm definitely not perfect, quick to anger. =)
ok back to studying.. wee
Originally posted by domonkassyu:
for christains..not just your own lives or u have to a/c for it to God. water.. wild beasts attacks..then the earthquakes that kills alot of people that will dwarf the szechuan quake. yeah, lets not panic..confused?? ok, i do not accept JC being God though i accept him being the lamb that died for humans sins like we are supposed to.
Errr...by the way, are you a "Christian"? If you are, then why do you not believe that Jesus is God? Isn't that the foundation of Christianity? "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God (John 1:1). And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth (John 1:14). And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God (John 1:34)." Very clear isn't it whom John was referring to? "the Word was God...and the Word was made flesh"...isn't this statement referring to Jesus Christ?
And if Jesus is just a man, how could he die for our sins...there are billions upon billions of sinners in the history of this world...how could one die for so many? And why must someone die for our sins in the first place? You mean God, who is supposed to be a fogiving and loving father, had to punish/kill someone to forgive our sins?
Originally posted by Kachui:
Errr...by the way, are you a "Christian"? If you are, then why do you not believe that Jesus is God? Isn't that the foundation of Christianity? "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God (John 1:1). And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth (John 1:14). And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God (John 1:34)." Very clear isn't it whom John was referring to? "the Word was God...and the Word was made flesh"...isn't this statement referring to Jesus Christ?
And if Jesus is just a man, how could he die for our sins...there are billions upon billions of sinners in the history of this world...how could one die for so many? And why must someone die for our sins in the first place? You mean God, who is supposed to be a fogiving and loving father, had to punish/kill someone to forgive our sins?
haha.. i asked that before =x
but the answers were kind of mindboggling, and so many ppl add here add there, then suddenly talk about church fathers, and theologeons, and greek interpretation etc.. irritating.
Originally posted by domonkassyu:
seems like you are living in your own world. thats y u feel so safe.. religions aside.. the planet is already weakening. global warming worsening.deserts getting bigger. more natural catastrophes and more serious each time. natural resources drying up. nothing last forever on earth. even the sun will burn out one day. may i humbly suggest to you to subscribe to magazines like national geographic and similiar articles to know more of your dying planet?
The planet is in a phase or readjustment. Its like a house undergoing renovation. There will be some discomfort but the end result is a beautiful house. You are blindly corelating what you read to what you see around you.
Originally posted by Kachui:Christian God is all knowing, thus He already knows who will be saved of who will not be...so why should Christians tremble at the thought of Armageddon or the end of this world? And in the first place, why should God be feared? Isn't He supposed to be a loving "Father" to all of us? If He is loving, then He will want what is best for us, and end this miserable world as soon as possible.--kachui
the scroll of life records the names of those already saved but also new names will be added to it isnt it? i said tremble in fear of God not armageddon? God should not be feared as in we are afraid of badness. y else in the bible would we see God fearing men who are doing God's word?? it is precisely God is loving, thats y suffering has been allowed for this short time since the first lie till now.
You asked whether our Christian friends have made their choice for God, but I thought Christians have already made their choices. How can one call himself a "Christian" if he had not made his choice to follow God? Wouldn't that be hypocritical if one claims to be a Christian and yet still undecided about the teachings of the Bible?--kachui
even people who have so called baptise still fall back to their old ways. being baptise is not akin to buying a life insurance sure can claim. look at revelation where JC addressed to the diff congregations. is not what they faced also the problems we have now?
The early Christians continued to worship God and continued to be happy and hopeful even though they were persecuted, I don't see why the Christians today should be afraid if the signs and prophecies in the Bible are coming true. In fact they should rejoice because their God is coming to take them home.--kachui
again, the word fear is does not mean being scared cuz its bad. it is the kind of respect and being overwhelmed that God fearing men has for God. 2 groups of christains here, those who rejoice in the kingdoms arrival and those who used the word of God to serve their own desires..
For me, my world will end when I die. I will not know anything, or feel anything. I will rot in a coffin or burnt into ashes...from dust to dust...return to nothingness.--kachui
do you not have the hope of everlasting life as promised to humans by God?
Originally posted by dumbdumb!:lol like tt also can. =x
k la. the explicitly said requirement is, those who has the Son, has life, those who do not have the son, do not have life, those who call on the name of the Lord, shall be saved.
i guess that works too =x
by the way. because i haven't been paying attention to this thread and the others. i'm just curious, how do you settle it that the bible says that "the Word is God" and yet not believe that Jesus is God?
yeah.. don't panic.. God didn't forewarn us just so we can panic.
panic = lack of peace = lack of faith.
but be watchful and do our part as salt and light of this world. =)
God and god got diff..let me go find the "proof" when i get home..exams over??
Originally posted by Kachui:
Errr...by the way, are you a "Christian"? If you are, then why do you not believe that Jesus is God? Isn't that the foundation of Christianity? "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God (John 1:1). And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth (John 1:14). And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God (John 1:34)." Very clear isn't it whom John was referring to? "the Word was God...and the Word was made flesh"...isn't this statement referring to Jesus Christ?
And if Jesus is just a man, how could he die for our sins...there are billions upon billions of sinners in the history of this world...how could one die for so many? And why must someone die for our sins in the first place? You mean God, who is supposed to be a fogiving and loving father, had to punish/kill someone to forgive our sins?
1st qn..no im not a christain yet. but i dont just shoot my mouth off here..i had done researches on most types of religions before and observed them. i am still studying the bible which is my latest "project". it seems like bible answers most of the qns found in today's problematic society.
2nd qns. i answered before but here goes.. it took 1 perfect man to bring sin to the world. God being fair will require 1 perfect man to end all sins is it not? of cuz if God just said all our sins are forgiven den no1 needs to die. but JC was willingly to die and if God just says to forgive like that, that does not make God fair. and no lessons learnt.
a teacher is teaching, say, maths to a class. suddenly a student challenges the teacher and offered an alternative answer. he twists it so that it looks logical. but in fact wrong. however the rest of the class will have doubts. what better way then let the erring student show what he got then correct him so all can learn? or u prefer to cut him off b4 he can go on?
by letting JC die, God is not punishing him cuz none of his bldy biz in the 1st place.
hope i answered ur qn.
Originally posted by shade343:
The planet is in a phase or readjustment. Its like a house undergoing renovation. There will be some discomfort but the end result is a beautiful house. You are blindly corelating what you read to what you see around you.
so in your wise opinion,what is the planet "renovating" itself into? humans has reached the end of govt ideas, they tried all kinds liaoz. tech wise, not fully explored already did so much harm to planet. with exploding population and massive usage of resources.. i really too stupid to see what beautiful house the planet can transform into in the hands of humans like yourself. the effects of the planet's demise is pretty obvious. it most probably wont just happen the next few hours, but the way humans are torturing it, it surely wont survive another billion years.million in fact.
Originally posted by domonkassyu:God and god got diff..let me go find the "proof" when i get home..exams over??
bible said "the Word was God" not "the Word was god"
"god" has always been used to refer to the false gods of the gentiles.
haha. not yet ah!!! next monday!!!
Oh no not armageddon......... again
Nobody knows when it will come.
Why bother? Keep living with the faith...I'm determined to see God's work while I'm still alive..who could be bothered about the end time. It's coming nobody could stop it. It's all part of the plan. Even the antichrist could do nothing if it wasn't part of the plan. Like separating the sheeps from the goats. All knowing all powerful God doesn't miss anything and doesn't let anything left to chance even to the fraction of a millionth second. That is total power. LOL. Otherwise all these are just one big lucky stroke of coincidence. It just doesn't make sense that way.
Da grand plan. We could only let it to unfold. No matter how long it takes.
Why be bothered with something not in our own power?
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:Oh no not armageddon......... again
Nobody knows when it will come.
Why bother? Keep living with the faith...I'm determined to see God's work while I'm still alive..who could be bothered about the end time. It's coming nobody could stop it. It's all part of the plan. Even the antichrist could do nothing if it wasn't part of the plan. Like separating the sheeps from the goats. All knowing all powerful God doesn't miss anything and doesn't let anything left to chance even to the fraction of a millionth second. That is total power. LOL. Otherwise all these are just one big lucky stroke of coincidence. It just doesn't make sense that way.
Da grand plan. We could only let it to unfold. No matter how long it takes.
Why be bothered with something not in our own power?
many people thinks armageddon is the end. but it is not. no1 can stop armageddon like in the movies except God. while the events unfolds, there are instructions to follow is it not? it is the instructions that is impt. the events are interesting too as more unfolds and we being in it..its like we already know the ending to a show but still we are participating in it.