Originally posted by malcom:
For example of the dispute, read Mat 19:3-12
Interesting. I could write about this some other time. Thanks.
Originally posted by Creation1656:
How about this commandment: " Remenber the sabbath day and keep it holy." Exodus 20:8 Tanakh JPS. Just ask around, how many christians really observe the sabbath and keep it holy
Actually it doesn't really matter, isn't it?
No matter how they argue about being Abraham's spiritual descendant, as long they have not converted to become a Jew, they are not obligated to follow the Jewish commandments.
Christians are truly Abraham's spiritual descendants. If you read the Jewish tradition, Abraham was the first evangelist for monotheism. So whoever knows God from him or his descendants can be considered his spiritual descendants.
Look at the issue from the Jewish perspective. It doesn't really matter.
Originally posted by Creation1656:
How about this commandment: " Remenber the sabbath day and keep it holy." Exodus 20:8 Tanakh JPS. Just ask around, how many christians really observe the sabbath and keep it holy. If what you said is true, don't you think that it is better for Christians to follow the teachings of Rabbinic Judaism? Rabbinic Judaism only obligated gentiles to observe the 7 universal laws of Noah.
Catholic makes worship on Lord's day compulsory, means it is a mortal sin not to go to Church on Sunday (or Saturday evening).
Regarding why we use Sunday instead of Saturday, I also have no answer. It has been discussed and argued by many people, so I don't intend to join the discussion.
Interestingly 7 day week system is used by Jewish and non-Jewish people, and somehow everyone agrees that Jewish's 7th days is Sabbath, and non-Jewish's 7th day is Saturday, and Sunday is agreed also to be the first day of the week.
For your remark that it is better for Christians to follow Rabbinic Judaism, I am not sure about others, I embrace Catholic faith not because it is better for me, but because I believe that it is the truth, and from the truth that I know and believe, I found that it is not what I think better for me that is important, but what God wants is more important.
Originally posted by malcom:
For your remark that it is better for Christians to follow Rabbinic Judaism, I am not sure about others, I embrace Catholic faith not because it is better for me, but because I believe that it is the truth, and from the truth that I know and believe, I found that it is not what I think better for me that is important, but what God wants is more important.
Mai lai lah .. we all know the real reason. What God wants can be found in the Old Testament. But then nobody wants to burden himself with all the commandments. 10 already buay tahan liao, not to mention 613.
At least Catholics not too bad lah. Rather than forsaking bak kua like the Jews, they go for lesser sacrifice, like forsaking meat or even food every now and then.
Dear Jesus, forgive them for they know not what they write
Originally posted by Princess Rose:
never say the 10 commandments leh.
First I want to start off by saying that I am not trying to cause any trouble by asking the following question.
It is to my understanding that Jesus is a Jew.
Since Christians believe in Jesus, should they not believe in what he believe in? i.e. Jewish faith
How does a person sign up to join the Jewish faith?
yes christ is a jew. By right, judaism must believe in what Christ said and judaism IF they follwed what christ said,they are the ultimate christians.
however....those rabbi in power do not allow some "punk" to unseat their power with some "I'm-the-son-of-God" talk..hence they rejected them as foretold and still waited for the messiah who came and gone.
the whole christianity/judaism seems like a software update.
judaism as version 1.(God of Adam,abraham,david, etc...)
pre roman cath...Ver 1.1
roman cath...ver 1.1.1
protestants...ver1.1.2
any other...Ver so on and so forth kinda thing.