For non-Christians and even more for Christians
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If you are non-Christian, it is good to know.
If you are a Christian, it is even more important for you to see this. It may be a long video, but even the smallest portion has the wisdom and foresight of the whole.
Burke Lecture: John Shelby SpongUCTV: UC San Diego1 hr 23 min 25 sec - Jan 10, 2005A pre-eminent voice for liberal Christianity, John Shelby Spong was the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Newark for 24 years before his retirement in 2000. His admirers acclaim his legacy as a teaching bishop who makes contemporary theology accessible to the ordinary lay person. He is considered a champion of an inclusive faith by many both inside and outside the Christian church. His challenges to the church have also made Bishop Spong a target of hostility, fear, and death threats. In what may come as a surprise to his critics, his latest book, A New Christianity for a New World, is a statement of Christian faith and love for the church. Calling himself "a joyful, passionate, convinced believer in the reality of God," he seeks not to create a new religion, but to reform the church he loves.
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why so many threads regarding christian tonight?
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CHRISTmas season wad
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The majority of Asian Christians tend to just follow the bible and not comprehend the origin of certain texts. All they can say is, the bible is the word of God and so it must be true.
This video pulls out excellent stories as examples and find out exactly what is wrong.
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Every religion began as a tribal religion...
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Your signature, "God bless me and you" is already tribal (not universal). Please do see the video. It doesn't hurt to know more.Originally posted by Cool-gal:siao 
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happy atheismas would be better really
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EH leh!
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A lot of things are related - and did anyone finish the video?
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wait a minute .. this topic wasn't here moments ago ..
did Fireice move this from CC? -
Or Jason...Originally posted by Icemoon:wait a minute .. this topic wasn't here moments ago ..
did Fireice move this from CC? -
what's this?
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hmmmm...
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Birth of jesus is not on 24th decemebr leh
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"Miracles" seemingly always happen on Christmas...
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I guess she did....it was meant to be in CC...Originally posted by Icemoon:wait a minute .. this topic wasn't here moments ago ..
did Fireice move this from CC?
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don't you think your thread will be more appreciated, here?Originally posted by Rigante:I guess she did....it was meant to be in CC... -
Miracles don't always happen on Christmas.
It's just that during the Christmas period, more people tend to perceive events as miracles. -
You can start such a celebration on your own.Originally posted by january:happy atheismas would be better really -
Guys - this video is not depicting any miracle.
I guess I will edit the title if I can.
The title of the video, which is a very interesting and humorous given by Bishop Spong, is called "THE TERRIBLE TEXTS OF THE BIBLE" -
Christians are by nature, 'partisan' because of their dualistic teaching....Originally posted by Rigante:If you are non-Christian, it is good to know.
If you are a Christian, it is even more important for you to see this. It may be a long video, but even the smallest portion has the wisdom and foresight of the whole.
Burke Lecture: John Shelby SpongUCTV: UC San Diego1 hr 23 min 25 sec - Jan 10, 2005A pre-eminent voice for liberal Christianity, John Shelby Spong was the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Newark for 24 years before his retirement in 2000. His admirers acclaim his legacy as a teaching bishop who makes contemporary theology accessible to the ordinary lay person. He is considered a champion of an inclusive faith by many both inside and outside the Christian church. His challenges to the church have also made Bishop Spong a target of hostility, fear, and death threats. In what may come as a surprise to his critics, his latest book, A New Christianity for a New World, is a statement of Christian faith and love for the church. Calling himself "a joyful, passionate, convinced believer in the reality of God," he seeks not to create a new religion, but to reform the church he loves.
http://brainofdtrain.vodpod.com/video/203422-burke-lecture-john-shelby-spong -
I kinda like Spong actually.
Read the liturgical use of the Gospel of Mark in synagogue from him. Pretty interesting. -
Human beings are a bunch of intelligent animal. We are so intelligent that we can cook, eat, work and are thinker. We have questions. Egg first or chicken first? Does God really exist. Many questions but some questions would never have an answer. So are we really that intelligent?
If God really exist, i wish i could ask him why am i here to suffer? Didn't we were taught that we are to go through punishment in the hell for all the sinful things we had done in life before we get to reborn again? If that is true, shouldn't i says my sin has been purified? If is true that i've been purified and is sinless now, why am i here to suffer? Isn't it true that i should be get started refresh. If God really exist, shouldn't i says i would be in the heaven and not here again? I know no one can answer these questions. I wish i would never here. i know i can't change the fact. All because of a man that played in a rain without a raincoat and as a result, the woman got pregnant. The baby inside is me. And you know what, i never get to see the man. To make the matter worst, i was sent to my grandmother when i was juz a baby because my mum need to work and has no time for me.
My childhhood life was very care-free becos my grandmother is a addicted gambler and therefore she spent most of her time on a manjong table than me. When she is happy and have some money to spend, she would buy many taoist statues home to worship them for better luck. But if she lost heavily, she would sweep them all away and leave them under a tree in our apartment block below instantly. Maybe becos of what she did, the retribution actually comes to me. :cry3:
If you are old enough like me, you may still remember that during the early 80's, some of the lifts on the ground floor in the HDB were installed with CCTV and a small TV set would be installed outside the lift for people waiting outside to see the activity inside the lift car. That was to curb lift robbery. I was once waiting for the lift at my block below and i saw someone inside the lift coming down. But, when the lift car opened, there was nothing inside. I was too young to feel frighten then. I didn't bother to tell anyone becos i don't have anyone to talk to and no one would bother me. However, things get worst after sometimes. I start hearing someone talking to me so i answered them back. But people around me says i am crazy 'siao'. It was only after one of my grandmother manjong kakis brought me to a temple that saved me for awhile. I was told that my body was possessed with spirit. And that they can ward it off but the solution is only temporary. Becos my body is
sort of weak and it can be possessed by the spirit easily. The long term
solution is, i have to get a master which is a deity to possess on me,
another word means i have to be a medium so that the stateless spirit
cannot own my body.
We went through numerous times of unsuccessful trance before i was finally possessed by Qian Shou Qian Yen Guan Yew. the god of no mercy with thousand hands and thousand eyes. i was 17 then and i went thru juz only primary education. But surprisingly, i could read chinese porm without script and write chinese graphy very well like a pro.
Behind every successful temple is always women. With the helps of the mouth of the manjong aunties, words of our temple spread very fast n wide. Many visitors came to our temple juz to take a closer glimpse of me possessing the rare Qian Shou Qian Yen. Some visitors were purely Buddhists. They were there juz to seek direct enlightenment from the guan yin. Many whom are also very young professional. The temple were usually so crowded that peoples were so closed to me and i could feel their existance even when they are standing behind my back becos they were blocking my thousand hands movement. Of course, they were not doing it intentionally becos they can't actually see my virtual hands. Only i can feel it.
However, i feel very tired everytime after i detrance becos the load of the thousand hands were so heavy for me. It was very stressful for a young little girl like me. How many times or how many years do i have to go thru this? I'm only 17. I decided to quit after few months becos i cant take the stress in my body anymore.
With little education, i found a job as a waitress in a music pub. With little family bonding, i felt love for the first time easily. With little knowledge of evil in man (i mean some men) i fall unreservedly for him. juz when i thought the weather is fine for the day, it rain and we went without any raincoat. I got pregnant. i was not ready for this. Thus, i got the baby aborted. :runnynose:
to be cont...