The world is created by god or devil?
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With all these imperfections, I'd say that the world is definitely created by devil, and positively "in his image".
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Where you see imperfections I see clay to be moulded into something better
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No lah the world was created by the BIG BANG
Now our world is still being created but by BIG BUCKS instead
Just my 2 cents. Well I didn't go to a very good school obviously
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sounds like Gnosticism.Originally posted by Fateemah:With all these imperfections, I'd say that the world is definitely created by devil, and positively "in his image".
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Our world is created by God and DEvil.. dont u see so many planets that dun have any living in it cuz of lousy weather and lack of living neccesaries cuz its not perfectly created ??
God and Devil tried to create a perfect world where they can control and yet after 8 planets at last they decide to do some teamwork to create our world.. that is why we have bad & good people.. which is why we have Demons & Angels in this world..
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With all those perfection, it shall be credited to GOD
With all those inperfection, it shall be credited to DEVIL lor...
So, it is actually the world is created by both god and devil... -
Matter is evil
Incidentally where the Albigensians (the group with the Inquisition inquired) gnostics? -
the devil cannot create.
God created earth and gave it to Man.
Man messed up, and his original authority given by God became usurped by the devil.
God still rules and reign, but now the devil has a foothold and influence over the world. -
Man I thought Paris Hilton had influence over the worldOriginally posted by specialOps:.....but now the devil has a foothold and influence over the world.
Look just how many magazines she is in lately.
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this view is problematic theologically.Originally posted by specialOps:the devil cannot create.
God created earth and gave it to Man.
Man messed up, and his original authority given by God became usurped by the devil.
God still rules and reign, but now the devil has a foothold and influence over the world.
omniscience, benevolence, omnipotence .. pick one. -
Originally posted by Icemoon:this view is problematic theologically.
omniscience, benevolence, omnipotence .. pick one.
What is your view on Sophie's world?
I only read to the Christology part of the previous book. I succumbed to Dota thus i did not spend much time in reading (due date is today)
I saw this book i think is Sophie world
It is about the views of some philosophers including kant, hume, aristotle, socrates.... I think it presents those views in the form of stories. -
Never read before Sophie's world. But I know la, Sophie is wisdom right?Originally posted by davidche:
What is your view on Sophie's world?
I only read to the Christology part of the previous book. I succumbed to Dota thus i did not spend much time in reading (due date is today)
The previous book is pretty good. Yup, the Christology part is good but so are the later parts. In particular it introduces you to philosophers like Don Cupitt, Karl Barth, Paul Tillich etc. -
Originally posted by Icemoon:
ya, learnt that from Stephen Tang also -.-
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Never read before Sophie's world. But I know la, Sophie is wisdom right?
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you mean the anunnaki or the nephilim? or are you talking about the nibirueans...?? or the reptilians...Originally posted by Fateemah:With all these imperfections, I'd say that the world is definitely created by devil, and positively "in his image". 
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:you mean the anunnaki or the nephilim? or are you talking about the nibirueans...?? or the reptilians...
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well, u're partially right.Originally posted by Fateemah:With all these imperfections, I'd say that the world is definitely created by devil, and positively "in his image".
The world was created by God, through His Word.
And all authority on earth was given to adam. and everything was perfect, everything was good.
but when adam sinned and became a slave to sin (and a slave to satan). that authority fell into satan's hand.
that's why the world's so screwed.
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why so shocked??Originally posted by Icemoon: -
was adam destined to sinned then? who destined it? cause and casuality?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:well, u're partially right.
The world was created by God, through His Word.
And all authority on earth was given to adam. and everything was perfect, everything was good.
but when adam sinned and became a slave to sin (and a slave to satan). that authority fell into satan's hand.
that's why the world's so screwed. -
i wonder how long will the moderator search takeOriginally posted by Fateemah:With all these imperfections, I'd say that the world is definitely created by devil, and positively "in his image".
now trolls are coming here too
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Think about this...
if the world is created by the devil, then the trees, air, seas, land, even us humans....what are we then? demons?
Then if the world is created by the devil, then you're calling God a liar in the bible, because He said He created everything and made them GOOD.
If the world is created by the devil, then Christ died in vain to redeem something that is worthless. Certainly not ! It is created by God, corrupted by the devil and it needs to be redeemed to its original purpose and intention! -
But god did not say that. Man said that god created everything and supposedly made it good and claimed that god said it.Originally posted by specialOps:Think about this...
if the world is created by the devil, then the trees, air, seas, land, even us humans....what are we then? demons?
Then if the world is created by the devil, then you're calling God a liar in the bible, because He said He created everything and made them GOOD.
If the world is created by the devil, then Christ died in vain to redeem something that is worthless. Certainly not ! It is created by God, corrupted by the devil and it needs to be redeemed to its original purpose and intention! -
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free will.Originally posted by january:was adam destined to sinned then? who destined it? cause and casuality?
tough concept. i find it hard to explain too. -
So that brings us to the problem of evil.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:free will.
tough concept. i find it hard to explain too. -
too cheam for me.Originally posted by breytonhartge:why so shocked??