Jesus Christ is not born on Christmas
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Jesus was not born on Christmas, according to some American websites.What are your views?
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now then you know?
Christmas is a day where we commemorate the birth of Christ...
Christ Mass... a Mass celebrating the birth of Christ... -
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so when was jesus born? -
The Queen of England has two birthday
One is actual, the other to commemorate/celebrate -
Give and take maybe around the 2nd week of January.Originally posted by Daisuke-kun:oooo.
so when was jesus born? -
Actually who said Jesus was born on Christmas? Nativity plays?Originally posted by ahsiang12:Jesus was not born on Christmas, according to some American websites.What are your views?
Christmas was originally a pagan festival taken over by the Romans to commemorate the birth of Christ.
Edit: So you see, it kinda represents the triumph of Jesus over the pagan god Saturn?, and because it is around the winter solstice, the longest night of the year, there is the idea of hope in the darkness. Etc.
As to when was Jesus born, the Orthodox Church will say somewhere in January. Brey will say during Sukkoth. -
yes. past roman leaders did that for political oppression. According to what i read, no one ever knew when jesus was born. Or maybe i juz didn read enough.Originally posted by Icemoon:Actually who said Jesus was born on Christmas? Nativity plays?
Christmas was originally a pagan festival taken over by the Romans to commemorate the birth of Christ.
Edit: So you see, it kinda represents the triumph of Jesus over the pagan god Saturn?, and because it is around the winter solstice, the longest night of the year, there is the idea of hope in the darkness. Etc.
As to when was Jesus born, the Orthodox Church will say somewhere in January. Brey will say during Sukkoth. -
There are clues though.Originally posted by Xtrider:yes. past roman leaders did that for political oppression. According to what i read, no one ever knew when jesus was born. Or maybe i juz didn read enough.
I think Brey says Yeshua was born on Sukkoth. -
nw den u knw ah.
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In other news, Santa Claus is also not real.
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He is real. There is at least one full time one in .. where ah .. norway or iceland?Originally posted by Phaze:In other news, Santa Claus is also not real. -
It's true, Jesus was born on the way back to bethlehem(?) because the Roman empire was conducting the first ever census. Historical records show that the census was conducted sometime in the middle of the year so Christ was born sometime then.
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finland?Originally posted by Icemoon:He is real. There is at least one full time one in .. where ah .. norway or iceland? -
Ahhh no. That Santa Claus is also not real. He's hired to help defraud thousands of children all over the world. Just the the Santa Clauses you find in malls.Originally posted by Icemoon:He is real. There is at least one full time one in .. where ah .. norway or iceland? -
gotcha.Originally posted by Hello Kitty:finland?
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The first paragraph of Catholic blogger Mark Shea's post.
Time was when I, like most people, took it for granted the winter solstice and, in particular, the Roman Feast of the Birth of the Unconquered Sun were simply pagan celebrations that hung around into Christian times. In fact, when I set out to write this book I still thought this. But I discovered the reality is far more complicated and interesting. Indeed, it turns out this widely assumed "fact" that "everybody knows" is probably another sample of pseudo-knowledge. For according to William Tighe, a church history specialist at Pennsylvania's Muhlenberg College, "the pagan festival of the 'Birth of the Unconquered Sun' instituted by the Roman Emperor Aurelian on 25 December 274, was almost certainly an attempt to create a pagan alternative to a date that was already of some significance to Roman Christians. Thus the 'pagan origins of Christmas' is a myth without historical substance."
http://markshea.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_markshea_archive.html#116611119750997638