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awww. once again, my hero saves the day.
it's very selfish of u to wan to have the forum deleted.
who r u to dismiss the effort n contribution from all. -
.....Originally posted by Hello Kitty:awww. once again, my hero saves the day.
it's very selfish of u to wan to have the forum deleted.
who r u to dismiss the effort n contribution from all.
2pid lefty with airport runway chest....
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it is so interesting to note that peeps who don't come in here to chat has suddenly shown so much interest in this forumOriginally posted by eagle:1)If you are washing your hands off the forum, why are you too concern about it? Isn't it obvious that plain selfishness is dominating your reasons now?
2) If sillyme is the one who bought the webspace and host the forum, then he is the true owner. Else, he's just using the forum space of Jason.
3) Seriously, this forum can be closed, and the threads moved to a new forum for Christians started by Jason. Won't that give the same result as now? Yet it will fulfill your decision... But is that necessary?
Doing all these is tantamount to someone who rather burn away $50 dollar notes than donate it those who need it more.
1. i am merely supporting the wishes of one who i respect and had enjoyed working with for so long. is this wrong?
2. by this definition, there are no true owners of this forum with the exception of jason, which means he has the right to do whatever he wants? therefore should we all go to him to have moderators approved?
3. what if the answer is YES?
the $50 is for me to burn, for whatever reasons I have, isn't it? if i have that note, whatever i want to do with it is my business isn't it? -
again, it is so interesting to note the sentiments of those who are not even active in this forum.....Originally posted by Hello Kitty:awww. once again, my hero saves the day.
it's very selfish of u to wan to have the forum deleted.
who r u to dismiss the effort n contribution from all.
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pang guan zhe qing.
ur mind is over-ruled by emotions. -
me offered to let u c.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:.....
2pid lefty with airport runway chest....
offered to let u feel.
wat more u wan frm me. -
Uh. Just a point to note. Not active in a forum doesnt mean dont read. or care.Originally posted by Chin Eng:again, it is so interesting to note the sentiments of those who are not even active in this forum..... 
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why?Originally posted by Hello Kitty:pang guan zhe qing.
ur mind is over-ruled by emotions.
why the need to keep EH open? can you share from a non-Christian stand point? (I assume you're a non-Christian).
what makes you think i am over-ruled by emotions?
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true.... but perhaps you may share as to why EH is important to you, and that closing it is going to put a dent in your life.Originally posted by Ferret:Uh. Just a point to note. Not active in a forum doesnt mean dont read. or care.
I am just really overwhelmed by the response by people who don't contribute to this forum......
.....so why?
just wondering..... when EH was being attacked by unreasonable posts.... where are those who "cared"?????
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errr..... according to herzog.... airport!Originally posted by Hello Kitty:me offered to let u c.
offered to let u feel.
wat more u wan frm me.
nothing to see and nothing to feel right???? -
May I susgest that we leave this issue between Sillyme and Jason to decide and agree on what to do next?
to be honest... fact is, other than this two person... none of our opinion offer any weightage to this. -
Nah. Doesnt really affect me one way or another.Originally posted by Chin Eng:true.... but perhaps you may share as to why EH is important to you, and that closing it is going to put a dent in your life.
I am just really overwhelmed by the response by people who don't contribute to this forum......
.....so why?
I am responding because like meow meow says, we are "outsiders"...
and from what I see,
you are right that respect has to be accord to the forum owner about his wishes to close down the forum.
Yet on the other hand, ultimate ownership does belong to Jason.
And also, there are people who does care abt the place enough to want to keep it open.
So by opening the applications for mods, Jason is choosing general people's happiness over the ex mods' wishes. -
u cant even b analytical. u kip emphasisin on wat one person wans (ok, make that on what the few of dem wan. but then again, that few wan exactly wat the one wans. so dat brings us bk to square one). if dat is nt affection, then it muz be smtg unfathomable.
i cant speek for the other petitioners. i m not one myself.
wif no attachment wif anyone frm dis forum, i cm forth objectively. christian anot, me is speekin up for the many others instead of the few who prefers to make a mountain out of a molehill.
enuff said.Originally posted by Hello Kitty:who r u to dismiss the effort n contribution from all.
leave it.
dun play god. -
he rejected all of my offers w/o givin me a single chance to prove myself.Originally posted by Chin Eng:errr..... according to herzog.... airport!
nothing to see and nothing to feel right???? -
yup, the ultimate ownership does belong to Jason.... however it does not mean that he is in the best position to pick mods if the original mods wish to go away. also religious forums are sticky issues. if a wrong mod is chosen, the flame will even be hotter. the onus of selection of mod lies with jason.... so does it mean that if in the future the mod messes up, it's jason's fault?Originally posted by Ferret:Nah. Doesnt really affect me one way or another.
I am responding because like meow meow says, we are "outsiders"...
and from what I see,
you are right that respect has to be accord to the forum owner about his wishes to close down the forum.
Yet on the other hand, ultimate ownership does belong to Jason.
And also, there are people who does care abt the place enough to want to keep it open.
So by opening the applications for mods, Jason is choosing general people's happiness over the ex mods' wishes.
it will be cleaner for another driven individual to start his own forum and makes his own rules. if the interest in Christian continues to be strong, this new forum should also grow.
...nonetheless my question about the interest level of EH remains unanswered. -
so happens that this "one person" started this forum.... as such he is the major stakeholder in this equation......Originally posted by Hello Kitty:u cant even b analytical. u kip emphasisin on wat one person wans (ok, make that on what the few of dem wan. but then again, that few wan -
Hello all,
You are right. Even if Jason said that I was the "previous owner", he has the last word.
Let me recount the sequence of events.
- I received a PM from Jason asking if I want to transfer the membership.
- I asked how the transfer is going to be conducted. Jason said I could nominate someone or he will maintain it as a public forum.
- I replied that I wish to let Eternal Hope remained closed.
- Jason said he is sorry to hear that I want Eternal Hope closed. He will open Eternal Hope as a public forum and hold elections.
- I asked if Jason will reopen the forum even if I wish that it is closed. I said that if that is his decision, I requested that future moderators be given more power.
- I asked if there were technical limitations to close or delete Eternal Hope.
- To my questions, Jason replied that future moderators can contact him or Fireice for any problems. There was no agreement to give moderators more power.
- He added that there are no limitations to how he can delete or close the forum.
- I requested to delete Eternal Hope entirely.
There was no reply after my last request. Two days later, we were removed as moderators.
To be fair, it is his forum. He can choose what he desires. It does not matter if you are a Christian forum, a chit-chat forum, an Aunt Agony forum. Any sub-forum is just another revenue generator.
It is my opinion that it does not matter if I do want Eternal Hope closed or not.
You are free to form your own opinions with regards to the whole situation. However, I think it really does not matter. You are just a statistic, a click count. -
n wat does god teech us about oneself?Originally posted by Chin Eng:so happens that this "one person" started this forum.... as such he is the major stakeholder in this equation......
dat we shud put others before ourselves. -
thank youOriginally posted by sillyme:Hello all,
You are right. Even if Jason said that I was the "previous owner", he has the last word.
Let me recount the sequence of events.
- I received a PM from Jason asking if I want to transfer the membership.
- I asked how the transfer is going to be conducted. Jason said I could nominate someone or he will maintain it as a public forum.
- I replied that I wish to let Eternal Hope remained closed.
- Jason said he is sorry to hear that I want Eternal Hope closed. He will open Eternal Hope as a public forum and hold elections.
- I asked if Jason will reopen the forum even if I wish that it is closed. I said that if that is his decision, I requested that future moderators be given more power.
- I asked if there were technical limitations to close or delete Eternal Hope.
- To my questions, Jason replied that future moderators can contact him or Fireice for any problems. There was no agreement to give moderators more power.
- He added that there are no limitations to how he can delete or close the forum.
- I requested to delete Eternal Hope entirely.
There was no reply after my last request. Two days later, we were removed as moderators.
To be fair, it is his forum. He can choose what he desires. It does not matter if you are a Christian forum, a chit-chat forum, an Aunt Agony forum. Any sub-forum is just another revenue generator.
It is my opinion that it does not matter if I do want Eternal Hope closed or not.
You are free to form your own opinions with regards to the whole situation. However, I think it really does not matter. You are just a statistic, a click count. -
exactly...... we are just click counts....Originally posted by sillyme:It is my opinion that it does not matter if I do want Eternal Hope closed or not.
You are free to form your own opinions with regards to the whole situation. However, I think it really does not matter. You are just a statistic, a click count.
if we are beyond that, then a forum starter's wish should be taken into consideration. -
Originally posted by Hello Kitty:n wat does god teech us about oneself?
dat we shud put others before ourselves. dun anyhow quote hor.... there is always a context behind every Biblical verse.
however based on what you'd said, should you too apply this "truth" -
dun make tings difficult for ferret le lah.
cm, lemme help her answer.
y put the blame on jason if the forum goes wrg in future.
izit sillyme's fault dat dis forum becms liddis? no.
we voice out on decisions made by the govt. bt do we wan to b in politics? no.
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ohOriginally posted by Chin Eng: dun anyhow quote hor.... there is always a context behind every Biblical verse.
however based on what you'd said, should you too apply this "truth"
so your application is that you think it is better to destroy something than pass it to someone who needs it more
hmmm. -
me got quote wrg meh.
u say, u say.
in real life, me beri much try to. -
S.E.L.F.I.S.H.Originally posted by sillyme:Hello all,
- I requested to delete Eternal Hope entirely.
serve u rite to b ignored.