Some mega churches affect students adversely
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You don't know it but by putting words into people's mouth, you have lost all credibility and makes people wonder if you have it altogether up there.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:they're not christians, they find it so easy to just say "ban the kids from coming to church", "employ bouncers, put notices to bar people from coming" etc..
If people say, "ban all churches", that is cutting off the head when you have a headache.Originally posted by davidche:If you have a headache, pls cut off your head.
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Pls comment on my analogy
Restrict youths from attending unless they have parental consent is an appropriate solution. Just as you do not ban people from going to cinemas but you have a rating system so that the gullible youths are not influenced by what they see in the cinemas (or in this case, what they hear inside religious premises), is appropriate.
Parents have the final say because they are the guardians of the youths. They are responsible for the youths, and they are accountable, not the religious organizations. -
impt issue raised here. The mods will be interested in commenting, i guess.Originally posted by gigabyte14:there are people who have the mindset that "God is #1, studies is #2".
my classmate is like this. -
do u think such idea is plausible in the first place?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:tada
especially in singapore??? -
i was about to laugh out loud then say something racist for a moment.Originally posted by laurence82:you are sure? how sure are you? i am reminded of someone, a Malaysian Muslim, who told me me he believes Muslims are less prone to committing sins when we were discussing some teenage issues, and I have to point out to him that humans being humans, being a follower to a religion does not automatically make one sinless or almost sinless, its takes great personal effort to do so
along the same line, why are you so sure the churches will make sure of it? even if there are such rules, how much effort have been made to enforce such rules, and are such rules effective, because what have been said are different from what people see in action
instead of ranting at people here, much help can be given by trying to bridge those gaps, that is a solution
i'm ranting because these people don't understand the church's stand, and they're blaming the church as the source of the problem, and suggesting that kids should be stopped from attending services. -
sorry, not my suggestion. i'm not that big of a cock to even dream it upOriginally posted by laurence82:do u think such idea is plausible in the first place?
especially in singapore??? -
no, can you/the parents even stop them?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:and you think that by stopping the kids from attending church is the right thing to do?
you should know how rebellious kids are nowadays, there's no way you can keep them seated, unless with a rope.
even if you do, can you ultimately stop them?
as i said, it's all caused by the kids. the church is partly to blame for it.
i'm not saying i hate churches, but kids are using the church as an excuse for going out with church groups, and such.
this isn't even a church problem anymore, it's concerning the future. -
he is a Chinese MuslimOriginally posted by dumbdumb!:i was about to laugh out loud then say something racist for a moment.
i'm ranting because these people don't understand the church's stand, and they're blaming the church as the source of the problem, and suggesting that kids should be stopped from attending services.
u want to say what racist thing???
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actually, for most of the time, i always see the churches as the source of problem
dont want to comment further, although like i ask, is it plausible in the first place to implement such bans? -
and the reasons for your point will be?Originally posted by laurence82:he is a Chinese Muslim
u want to say what racist thing???
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actually, for most of the time, i always see the churches as the source of problem
dont want to comment further, although like i ask, is it plausible in the first place to implement such bans? -
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You don't know it but by putting words into people's mouth, you have lost all credibility and makes people wonder if you have it altogether up there.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:that would be an excellent idea... under age cannot enter! Include also a warning sign at the doors of all religious establishments:
WARNING: Listening to the preaching might destroy your harmonious family life.
putting words in whose mouth? oh i'm sorry, i believe these words weren't shoved in by me.Originally posted by vince69:and the pastor should employ bouncers to stand at the door... no consent form cannot enter...
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in short, christians who are affected adversely in any way is solely a christian problem, but i agree with giga's points that there is a cause for concern because of the growing trend of megachurches and the stuff we see inside
even saying its a christian problem also no use
i used to talk to people in EH about this, the response was that of a reluctance and apathy, and at times refusal to do so...i think somebody said it well, that a christian will not want to put down his brethren's faith
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that i dont want to comment further?Originally posted by blahshit:and the reasons for your point will be?
u got see this point in the next line?
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dont keep going onto giga larOriginally posted by dumbdumb!:and you think that by stopping the kids from attending church is the right thing to do?
not as if he is the one suggesting it
why dont you cool it? -
i did my part. for the right reasons, and more importantly, because i went through it and was affected before.Originally posted by laurence82:in short, christians who are affected adversely in any way is solely a christian problem, but i agree with giga's points that there is a cause for concern because of the growing trend of megachurches and the stuff we see inside
even saying its a christian problem also no use
i used to talk to people in EH about this, the response was that of a reluctance and apathy, and at times refusal to do so...i think somebody said it well, that a christian will not want to put down his brethren's faith
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alright. sorry gigabyte.Originally posted by laurence82:dont keep going onto giga lar
not as if he is the one suggesting it
why dont you cool it?
friends?
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:alright. sorry gigabyte.
friends? -
you can speak for yourself, i can believe you on this pointOriginally posted by dumbdumb!:i did my part. for the right reasons, and more importantly, because i went through it and was affected before.
but i dare not say the same thing for the christian world
and its the strength of a large number, if not the whole group, to push forward to resolve this
untill something concrete comes up, i think we will still be debating about it till the next century -
i won't expect, or even want the church to be saying stuff like "ok, since you're doing badly in school, you're now banned from church"Originally posted by laurence82:you can speak for yourself, i can believe you on this point
but i dare not say the same thing for the christian world
and its the strength of a large number, if not the whole group, to push forward to resolve this
untill something concrete comes up, i think we will still be debating about it till the next century -
now you two can go kiss and make up
pls do it discreetly behind curtains
i go sleep
i tink giga going to sleep too
cya all
behave -
alamak, this is not the only plausible solution larOriginally posted by dumbdumb!:i won't expect, or even want the church to be saying stuff like "ok, since you're doing badly in school, you're now banned from church"
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apparently some people suggested it.Originally posted by laurence82:alamak, this is not the only plausible solution lar
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dunno la. i just know i do my little part, one step at a time. like rurouni kenshin.
i can't help everyone, but i can help those around me. that's good enough for me. -
later. i still can't believe i stood up for a church i disliked.Originally posted by laurence82:now you two can go kiss and make up
pls do it discreetly behind curtains
i go sleep
i tink giga going to sleep too
cya all
behave
but its a matter of principle.
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The problem is not about going to church, playing computer games, not about shopping (can be a bit expensive), movies, forums, the problem lies in proper Time Management and Pirority Setting, and these are things parents should be the primary person in helping their children in (be they christians or no-christian).Originally posted by blahshit:banning is definately not the solution.. the solution lies within the person himself.. it's his choice to comit himself to religion and live his life with god.. but remember he also have a choice to go computor games, shopping malls, movies and forums.. the thing is, he have to disipline himself to do work.. i have seen lots of examples of people who have no religion, have time to play games but still can excel in work .. so what's your point in computor games? -
that will be me... with a very sarcastic intentionOriginally posted by laurence82:dumbdumb, i think you are too agitated
are you really sure people are saying banning them from church?
who made such posts? -
who's fault that the boy forget about his studies and get bad result?Originally posted by gigabyte14:think about this.
boy makes friends with so called "people from church" just to make friends, forgetting the whole thing about the faith and stuffs.
they hang out, played, and forget about the studies.
and lousy results.
although the church has nothing to do with this, the people do.
the real ones mixes with the fake ones, and goes haywire
his friends??? or the boy???
by the way... you all very free hor... middle of the night 4am still posting here, today no need to go work, go school meh???
later get bad results don't come blame sg forum for it hor... -
maybe they spend too much time queueing up...
*runs away from vince*