MM Lee talks about homosexuality
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MM LEE's remarks definitely has an impact on the gay community
http://www.trevvy.com/scoops/article.php?a_id=147&c_id=3
What Makes Us Gay?
BY Team Trevvy
It may be the jeans genes that make us gay! Team Trevvy investigatesÂ… 01/05/2007
"If in fact it is true - and IÂ’ve asked doctors this - that you are genetically born a homosexual, because thatÂ’s the nature of the genetic random transmission of genes, you canÂ’t help it. So why should we criminalize it?"
These recent remarks by Minister Mentor Lee must have brought a guarded smile to the faces of even the most politically jaded gay Singaporean. After years of either ignoring the homosexual issue or considering it to be a deviant and unhealthy lifestyle choice, the establishment – or at least the man who created it – has finally realised what we as gay people have known since we first found ourselves attracted to the same sex – you can’t help it.
Remember the first time you felt attracted to another person of the same sex and thought it might be a phase that will go away but never did? Most gay men know from (often painful) personal experience that their homosexual inclination was never a deliberate choice. Yet opponents of gay rights choose to disregard our personal experiences and continue to portray homosexuality as a sinful choice that should be criminalised.
Cue the scramble from conservatives to disprove the notion that homosexuality is decided from birth. Why the brouhaha? If the government does decide that homosexuality is innate – like race and sex – then there can be no justification for discrimination, not just in the form of laws criminalising gay sex, but extending beyond that into other social issues such as marriage and laws protecting homosexuals from bigotry. -
If u go to their website and listen to their sermons, besides the homosexual theme it is rather similiar to conventional ones, talking about Christ as saviour etc etc etc.Originally posted by Chin Eng:If the interpretation and teaching is going to continue to change, then there is no need even to talk about marriage, acceptance of Christ as a personal Saviour, or even the works of the Holy Spirit in our lives.
In all honesty, in all my years in the Methodist church, I have never even heard of Rev Yap. His name is never mentioned at all. Previous bishops and leaders have been invited from time to time to my church, never once was Rev Yap invited.
Mebbe it's becoz of his stance that he was never invited to ur church. -
seriously, even cults extol similar values..... here's where we need to decide what we believe in: the whole Bible, or part of the Bible.Originally posted by laoda99:If u go to their website and listen to their sermons, besides the homosexual theme it is rather similiar to conventional ones, talking about Christ as saviour etc etc etc.
Mebbe it's becoz of his stance that he was never invited to ur church.
I'd been digging about Yap through my church leadership... the first reaction was: shaking of heads... -
why he so old then switch sides har? is he married?Originally posted by Chin Eng:seriously, even cults extol similar values..... here's where we need to decide what we believe in: the whole Bible, or part of the Bible.
I'd been digging about Yap through my church leadership... the first reaction was: shaking of heads... -
People like Yap and the Anglican Bishop Spong have seen the truth for what it really is.Originally posted by laoda99:why he so old then switch sides har? is he married?
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i read spong book b4....it is too radical for me to take it hahaOriginally posted by Icemoon:People like Yap and the Anglican Bishop Spong have seen the truth for what it really is. -
I only read one of his books - why christianity must change or die.Originally posted by laoda99:i read spong book b4....it is too radical for me to take it haha
very hard to find the rest leh. -
yup....i borrowed from library also this book.....Originally posted by Icemoon:I only read one of his books - why christianity must change or die.
very hard to find the rest leh.
mebbe u order the others from the internet? -
siao .. buy his book for what?Originally posted by laoda99:yup....i borrowed from library also this book.....
mebbe u order the others from the internet?
I rather buy academic books .. like the theology course books by Alistair McGrath. -
have u checked borders or kinokuniya?Originally posted by Icemoon:siao .. buy his book for what?
I rather buy academic books .. like the theology course books by Alistair McGrath. -
find what?Originally posted by laoda99:have u checked borders or kinokuniya?
A pity many of the good books are not available in our bookshops. -
i think borders have a quite comprehensive range of books abt religion...Originally posted by Icemoon:find what?
A pity many of the good books are not available in our bookshops.
another book store u can try is PAGE ONE at habourfront. Nice place to sit down and read books. They won't bother u one. -
But they seldom contain gems leh .. and some of them can be borrowed in our libraries.Originally posted by laoda99:i think borders have a quite comprehensive range of books abt religion...
another book store u can try is PAGE ONE at habourfront. Nice place to sit down and read books. They won't bother u one.
Hey you so resourceful can find for me his books? http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/mcgrath/
Maybe you buy and lend me. -
once i start my mdiv, if need the book to write papers i will buyOriginally posted by Icemoon:But they seldom contain gems leh .. and some of them can be borrowed in our libraries.
Hey you so resourceful can find for me his books? http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/mcgrath/
Maybe you buy and lend me. 
mebbe my frens who just finished B.D has too....I ask for u.... -
yea .. thanks ah.Originally posted by laoda99:once i start my mdiv, if need the book to write papers i will buy
mebbe my frens who just finished B.D has too....I ask for u....
Actually I don't mind buying a copy since it is really a good book.