Erm, Is This Church Ok?
-
sigh.. im not discriminating or anything...
Im just worried. Cos religion is not something to be trifled with...
Just because we accept embrace God, it also means we must follow the correct way of the faith...
God may love us, but He judges as well... -
we've been debating since 1517 after Martin Luther published his 95 thesesOriginally posted by laurence82:minor meh?
reading thru the past topics, i never come to believe the major rift between the Catholics and the Protestants, for example, were mere 'minor'
some parts are quite fundamental to the central beliefs, as pointed out by ben above -
come ten years later, lets us all celebrate and commemorate 500 years of the Great DebateOriginally posted by ben1xy:we've been debating since 1517 after Martin Luther published his 95 theses
-_- -
Yup. But they will argue that the Catholic way or the Orthodox Protestant way is not the correct way of faith.Originally posted by mhcampboy:sigh.. im not discriminating or anything...
Im just worried. Cos religion is not something to be trifled with...
Just because we accept embrace God, it also means we must follow the correct way of the faith...
God may love us, but He judges as well...
We can advise, but in the end.. i guess leave it for our Boss to judge bah -
wow! it's going to be half a century! i didn't realise thatOriginally posted by laurence82:come ten years later, lets us all celebrate and commemorate 500 years of the Great Debate
-_- -
half a milleniumOriginally posted by ben1xy:wow! it's going to be half a century! i didn't realise that
-_-!!!!
is the rift with the Eastern Orthodox called the Great Schism or something? -
Haven't seen Heng for a while...
-
oh yah.. millenium. the older i get the more stupid i becomeOriginally posted by laurence82:half a millenium
-_-!!!!
is the rift with the Eastern Orthodox called the Great Schism or something?
Yup that happened much longer beginnin of the 11th century. That's why we have Western - latin (Roman Catholic) and the Eastern - greek Orthodox -
shudder.... shudder.... CE skulking away.....Originally posted by ben1xy:Haven't seen Heng for a while... -
"If any man lacks of wisdom, let him ask of God which giveth to each man liberally and upbraideth not." - James, Chp 1 v 1
I would suggest you pray to ask of His holy spirit to guide you. If you attend the church and feel comfortable den by all means join them. To each his own ma.......
Wad other pple feel is immaterial.
-
yup, gave up reading their materials after a while, among the parts that turn me off then are claims like ..Originally posted by ben1xy:I did try to read up on their justification. Some even insinuate that King David was homosexual. After a while, i gave up following their line of arguement. It's like contortioning verses to suit their beliefs. But of course the people that subscribe to the other view would vehemently disagree with me. And call me a bigot too.
So i guess, who's right and who's wrong.. we will onyl know when we go up there bah
King David is homosexual (partner is Jonathon)
Jesus Christ is homosexual (partner is Apostle John)
...etc
-
i think we are on the same page here.Originally posted by vince69:yup, gave up reading their materials after a while, among the parts that turn me off then are claims like ..
King David is homosexual (partner is Jonathon)
Jesus Christ is homosexual (partner is Apostle John)
...etc
as i'd said before, in another thread on this topic: those who practice homosexuality, it's ok with me.... we choose our own path in life.
however to make homosexuality as biblical principle is stretching it a bit too far.
some of the claims and the twists of verses are really really warped. -
Posted by Neon, many many moons ago.
National Council of Churches of Singapore
Statement on Homosexuality
Preamble:
There has recently been wide discussion in the press and the Internet on the issue of homosexuality with different views expressed. Christians, like other thoughtful citizens, are also concerned about this issue. We present our position below as a guide to Christians in our member churches and as our witness, as concerned citizens, to the society in which we belong.
Our stand:
1) Recognizing the Bible as the authoritative standard for its faith and practice the Church has historically and consistently held the view that the practice of homosexuality is clearly incompatible with the teachings of the Christian faith. The only sexual relationship, sanctioned by God and given as a gift from God, is between a male and a female within the bounds of a monogamous marriage.
2) Therefore, we do not condone homosexual practice and we consider homosexual lifestyle as sinful and unacceptable. However, this does not mean that we reject or despise homosexuals (homophobia). We acknowledge that every person is loved by God and we all live under the grace of God. Homosexuals should be regarded and treated no less as persons of worth and dignity.
3) The Church is called to be a caring community and a sanctuary, always extending ministry to all persons. As sinners ourselves, we are committed to the path of true freedom made possible by the grace of God and found in and through obedience to Jesus Christ. Without minimizing their struggles, the Church offers those beset with homosexual desire the same opportunity to receive God's forgiveness and fulfillment in Jesus Christ and to experience His transforming power. Not accepting homosexual practice and lifestyle must not be confused with homophobia.
4) In public debate about homosexuality scientific data have sometimes been used to support certain claims. To the layperson, science has been unsuspectingly regarded as an objective discipline and conclusions based on its findings have been assumed as irrefutable and authoritative. But that is an assumption we do not accept especially with regard to attempts to give biological explanations to homosexual inclination and behaviour. We note that there is no clear evidence that homosexuality is biologically determined.
5) Though we deem homosexual lifestyle totally unacceptable on the basis of the Bible and our faith, we believe that unless there are legitimate reasons homosexuals, as individuals, should not be discriminated against in areas such as employment. It does not follow, however, that our society should be re-ordered or allowed to evolve to the extent that eventually homosexual practice is endorsed, permitted or encouraged as an alternative lifestyle. In this regard, we urge our government to maintain:
a) current legislation concerning homosexuality;
b) its policy of not permitting the registration of homosexual societies or clubs;
c) its policy of not allowing the promotion of homosexual lifestyle and activities.
6) As churches we seek to remain faithful to our Christian faith and practice. We shall strengthen the education of our members in the teachings and practices of our faith. We are committed to serving our nation by helping to preserve and promote wholesome values and lifestyles that will contribute to the well-being of our society.
29 July 2003 -
Originally posted by Chin Eng:shudder.... shudder.... CE skulking away.....
Don't u miss your little exchanges?
-
scarry...Originally posted by ben1xy:
Don't u miss your little exchanges?
...but I am surprise you remember. -
This is a scarely church...
-
halfway read the stupid article only to find some rubbish
gave up -
Smoke on the water~~~
Fire in the sky~~~
Smoke on the water~~
Dang Dang Dang....Dang Dang Dang Dang~~~ -
Smoke gets in your eyes
-_- -
18 and life you got it~~~
18 and life youknow~~~
Your crime is time and its~~
18 and life to go~~~ -
haha, how would i forget.Originally posted by Chin Eng:scarry...
...but I am surprise you remember.
when its evolution debate, SIS comes in
when it has to deal with homosexuality, its Heng
we have a lot of colourful characters here at EH. yourself included unker eng -
oh the website ah?Originally posted by laurence82:halfway read the stupid article only to find some rubbish
gave up -
i got labelled a bigot too -_-"Originally posted by Chin Eng:scarry...
...but I am surprise you remember.