i want go back to god
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i know god is real, but there is so many things that i still dont understand. so many stumbling rocks, so many discrepancies. its like i know god is real, but at the same time, i find faults with the bible. any commentS?
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erm.. can't realli help must but all i can say is Faith...
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Faith ...Lots of faith will help you to get connect to god..Don give up
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Originally posted by popmynutsy:i know god is real, but there is so many things that i still dont understand. so many stumbling rocks, so many discrepancies. its like i know god is real, but at the same time, i find faults with the bible. any commentS?
i don't know what you want, and if you want to go back to god, and ask him for his grace, all you need to do is pray
and you mentioned that you find faults with the bible, again i think you are in self denial, so boi boi, make up your DAMN MIND, stop wasting people time -
deh, its a dilenma la. dont damn here damn there la.Originally posted by allentyb:
i don't know what you want, and if you want to go back to god, and ask him for his grace, all you need to do is pray
and you mentioned that you find faults with the bible, again i think you are in self denial, so boi boi, make up your DAMN MIND, stop wasting people time -
go talk to a priest
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if you really want to go back to god, just go back to god, nothing dilemma about it, i don't sense any dilemma about your sentence, if you find fault with the bible, then list down the flaws that you find in the bible, you teenage just like to be so argumental about everything,Originally posted by popmynutsy:deh, its a dilenma la. dont damn here damn there la. -
you dont think that the bible alittle bit too 'powerful'?
like open red sea, from few fishes become so many fishes. -
are you refering to old Testament or new Testament?Originally posted by popmynutsy:you dont think that the bible alittle bit too 'powerful'?
like open red sea, from few fishes become so many fishes.
If you believe in god, will you doubt, god words in the first place?
I can do all things through christ who strengthen me
Philippians 4:13 -
U CANT GO BACK TO GOD BECOS GOD IS OMNIPRESENT
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lol you this type of pattern go church one?Originally posted by allentyb:are you refering to old Testament or new Testament?
If you believe in god, will you doubt, god words in the first place?
I can do all things through christ who strengthen me
Philippians 4:13
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Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:lol you this type of pattern go church one?
I believe in god and his words
but i no longer goes to church anymore
how do you define a christian in the first place?
do i have to go to church in order to be consider as a christian
art thou questioning my faith? -
How do u know god is real
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how do you know there is air?Originally posted by stupidissmart:How do u know god is real
you feel
its the same theory, the presence of god, the miracle that jesus christ has perform,
have faith -
how do you know there is air?
U feel. How come there r people who become buddhist or free thinker or taoist or hinduism then ? Your feeling is subjective
you feel
its the same theory, the presence of god, the miracle that jesus christ has perform,
have faith -
god give us a gift, thats call free willOriginally posted by stupidissmart:U feel. How come there r people who become buddhist or free thinker or taoist or hinduism then ? Your feeling is subjective
i never mention anything about feelings
i merely state the word - feel
again, all you can mention to me, are mere general knowledge
you are unable to provide any fact, to disprove that god is unreal
again, i shall not refer to the bible to state my arguement, as you want to deny god, so be it
what i have state is an example,
in closing, have faith -
god give us a gift, thats call free will
Similarly, u do not provide any evidence tat god does exist. IMO the way u say it is u only assume. And u strengthen your assumption by assuming more strongly. Tat is wat faith is all about. U just believe more strongly your assumption is right. If it is so blatantly clear it is right, u do not need faith. I don't need faith to believe the sun is hot or the snow is white.
i never mention anything about feelings
i merely state the word - feel
again, all you can mention to me, are mere general knowledge
you are unable to provide any fact, to disprove that god is unreal
again, i shall not refer to the bible to state my arguement, as you want to deny god, so be it
what i have state is an example,
in closing, have faith
Whether u use the word "feel" or "feeling", your example highlight the problem of it being subjective. -
do i have to refer to the bible to argue with you that god exist?Originally posted by stupidissmart:Similarly, u do not provide any evidence tat god does exist. IMO the way u say it is u only assume. And u strengthen your assumption by assuming more strongly. Tat is wat faith is all about. U just believe more strongly your assumption is right.
Whether u use the word "feel" or "feeling", your example highlight the problem of it being subjective.
sigh..... if you want to argue over this
i care not,
as this is very very subjective,
nor did i state that i am right, i merely said that in faith, we place our trust in god, and please read john 3:16, let me ask you a question, do you believe that jesus christ is the son of god, if you want to disprove that jesus christ is not son of god, then i have nothing more to say you
and between, i have never state that you are wrong, merely i just listed an example, i never judge you nor question you
my statement isn't subjective,
again, how do you know there is air, the correct answer is you feel or sense
how can this be any subjective? again i want to say this, you chose the wrong words at the wrong time
this thread is not about denying god,
and one more thing, you only trying to find fault in my sentence, but never state any form of arguement of your own,
until you provide any form of evidence that god doesn't exist at all
or i rest my case and not post again
you are just being arguemental
lastly i am not assuming that god is real, i believe in god, you should read up what i post before -
do i have to refer to the bible to argue with you that god exist?
I do not believe in the bible
sigh..... if you want to argue over this
i care not,
as this is very very subjective,
nor did i state that i am right, i merely said that in faith, we place our trust in god, and please read john 3:16, let me ask you a question, do you believe that jesus christ is the son of god, if you want to disprove that jesus christ is not son of god, then i have nothing more to say you The whole question really stems from the fact why do u believe in the bible and tat is word of god. Because god is just an idea introduced by the bible. U believe in bible because it says so ?and between, i have never state that you are wrong, merely i just listed an example, i never judge you nor question you
If u ask me, I know there is air because u can conduct experiments tat is repeatable to prove there is air tat is logically sound and prove no other conclusion. U answer it for god, but I ask u why different people believe in different things then u did not answer. Is tat a clear case tat your "sensing" is subjective and varies differently from people to people ?
my statement isn't subjective,
again, how do you know there is air, the correct answer is you feel or sense
how can this be any subjective? again i want to say this, you chose the wrong words at the wrong timethis thread is not about denying god,
I thought my stand is clear tat i believe there is no god. I feel tat the TS, despite all the reasons for not believeing in god, still believe in it nevertheless puzzling. Tat is why i ask him how he come to the conclusion god exist in the first place
and one more thing, you only trying to find fault in my sentence, but never state any form of arguement of your own,
The burden on proving god lies on u. Tis is because u make an extraordinary claim tat cannot be observed and logically deduced. I can say tat there exists the invisible flying spaghetti monster. Wat do u think is the right way ? Should u prove it wrong for me otherwise it is deemed as fact and u have to accept it ? Or should I show evidence tat there is the flying spaghetti monster before u take it seriously ?
until you provide any form of evidence that god doesn't exist at all
or i rest my case and not post again
you are just being arguemental -
do you understand the word, have faith, if you don't, so be it,
i have faith in god, and i believe in god,
its good enough
please don't attempt to throw back the question to me, as you are just replying me with question, not facts at all
the burden of proving that god doesn't exist, lies in you instead!
if you said that god doesn't exist at all,
tell that to the roman catholic, christian all over the world that god doesn't exist
and they will tell you one thing
DO YOU HAVE ANY SCIENTIFIC FACT THAT GOD DOESN'T EXIST AT ALL
again the miracle that jesus christ has performed, is enough to prove that god exist!
http://www.bcbsr.com/survey/jmrcls.html -
To stupidissmart,
if you can use scientific explanation that jesus christ doesn't exist
since you are the one, who doesn't believe god exist in the first place
please explain how did, jesus christ perform all these miracle - http://www.bcbsr.com/survey/jmrcls.html
i don't have to prove anything at all, since i believe that god does exist in the first place -
do you understand the word, have faith, if you don't, so be it,
Then why don't u try answering the question ? I answer almost al your questions but u never did for mine. My question show the problem of your stand. If u avoid it, then wat do u think it shows.
i have faith in god, and i believe in god,
its good enough
please don't attempt to throw back the question to me, as you are just replying me with question, not facts at allthe burden of proving that god doesn't exist, lies in you instead!
Why don't u show me wat wrongs have I committed in telling u tat the burden of proving lies on u ? I claim tat is a flying spaghetti monster. U r forced to believe in it then. Then orgres, elves, dragon, tooth fairies, santa claus, nu wa, shiva and snow white all exist too because no one can prove them wrong.
if you said that god doesn't exist at all,tell that to the roman catholic, christian all over the world that god doesn't exist
Let the reader decide for themselves whose argument sounds more logical then. BTW the miracles jesus christ performed is again, from the bible. And I don't understand why do u believe in it and not the other books including scientific textbooks.
and they will tell you one thing
DO YOU HAVE ANY SCIENTIFIC FACT THAT GOD DOESN'T EXIST AT ALL
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please explain how did, jesus christ perform all these miracle
U r asking a very strange question. My answer is because he is fiction In fiction there r people who can become superman or batman or dare devil or anything u wanna imagine. U want me to list to u all the miracles superman perform ? Doesn't the many miracles of the story jesus perform make him sound more and more fictional ? -
i don't have to prove that you are wrong at all, since you wanted to argue with me and not prove any fact at all, you can only find faults with my statement, either you believe that god exist or not, its up to you, i never state that you are wrong at all, since you want to state that god doesn't exist so be it,
tell that to the church or the christian
and they will just jolly well tell you one thing
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Originally posted by stupidissmart:U r asking a very strange question. My answer is because he is fiction In fiction there r people who can become superman or batman or dare devil or anything u wanna imagine.
I even wiki jesus christ
for goodness sake, read up wiki, then argue
now you are being strange
you ask me to provide any fact and there i provide you a link
now you want to deny it
oh well
carry on with the statement which you never state any scientific fact at all