Why do you believe in God?
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Are you talking about Jesus' miracles?Originally posted by sonic_16:History had proven some of the so called "miracles" are actually science, just that at that point of time of occurance of the miracle, the science was not developed yet. How would we know the miracles that we called now are not science?
I dunno there is a science for resurrection and a science for wallking on water.
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Sorry, I did not mentioned that I had a very strong influence of Taoism from my mother since young. Yes, I've been to temples before. And, like many others I was very very resistent to Christian preachings by friends when I was young.Originally posted by sonic_16:How would you know that you wun feel peace in your heart you had never experienced before in your life if someone brought you to a temple in tibet? Mosque? Some other religion places of worship?
I guess the feeling of peace for Taoism is only present when prayers are done inside the temples. Sorry to say this but my mother is one very good example of NOT having found peace in spite of her devoutness to her religion. Till to day, she is never happy. She finds fault with everybody and anybody - sigh....
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"devoutness" doesn't mean you are practising it correctly as the religion intended, i.e. you don't understand your religion.Originally posted by MamaRos:I guess the feeling of peace is only present when prayers are done inside the temples. Sorry to say this but my mother is one very good example of NOT having found peace in spite of her devoutness to her religion. Till to day, she is never happy. She finds fault with everybody and anybody - sigh....
especially for chinese religions like taoism, most of it is idol worship. how many truly understand what lao zi says? -
Is not I dont believe in God, is does he believe in me or not
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believe in you, for what?Originally posted by alexkusu:Is not I dont believe in God, is does he believe in me or not 
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The Christian God doesn't believe in you. He doesn't need to and you don't deserve it.Originally posted by alexkusu:Is not I dont believe in God, is does he believe in me or not
But because God so loved the world .. He has sent His Son to atone for your sins. -
yes, some just do it, cause, parents says so... ever encounter this? (i have),Originally posted by Icemoon:"devoutness" doesn't mean you are practising it correctly as the religion intended, i.e. you don't understand your religion.
especially for chinese religions like taoism, most of it is idol worship. how many truly understand what lao zi says?
child asked parents : why do this? why do that?
parents to child : children don't ask so much, just follow and do ..
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most likely, the reason is the parents themselves also don't know why. -
I am waiting for God to answer my prayers.......................... was waiting...........................am still waiting...................... ..................... ...................... .................... .......................................................... for the last 6 years.
Looks like God dun believe in answering despos prayers for help. Maybe God already answered................."Son, the answer is a fat NO!" "Y?.......COS I SAID SO, AND I DUN NEED TO GIVE YE A REASON!!!!!!!!"
"Now, son, go out and dun come here n bother me agin, ye hear???" "NOW GIT!!!!"
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God: "AND NO BUT THIS AND THAT.....!!!" "NOW SCAM!!!!!!"
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FireAndHell, you don't pray to God to fulfill your wish. Look at the model prayer:
Our Father, who art in heaven,
So you pray for thy will to be done.
hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,,
on earth as it is in heaven
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Hopefully your wish is also thy will.
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Alot of people people have faith in god and christianity because they have faith. I disagree. I have faith in god and christianity because I have beliefOriginally posted by Ferguson:what makes you have faith in God and christianity? -
I have always been baffled by the purpose of this question. Same reason that I do not believe in the Loch Ness monster or the BigfootOriginally posted by Chin Eng:let's take a step back: why don't you believe in the existence of supreme being? -
So, i take it that you have undeniable proof that something intelligent took place to form the world that we see today?Originally posted by Chin Eng:so i take it that in your opinion, the various cells just existed and nothing intelligent took place to form the world we see today.
... I am not even talking about Christian theology, just Intelligent Design. -
wtf
fireice is looking for people who clone my nick in one form or another u noe
she is banning the whole lot
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...surely there must be religion that worships that bigfoot or the loch ness.... not!Originally posted by ah_lau2:I have always been baffled by the purpose of this question. Same reason that I do not believe in the Loch Ness monster or the Bigfoot
Unddeniable proof? Depends on who you are asking.Originally posted by ah_lau2:So, i take it that you have undeniable proof that something intelligent took place to form the world that we see today?
Cells forming a structural hierachy.... in turns form a hierachy of animals.... isn't intelligent?
Try putting a few hundred bricks of lego into a box and shake it and see if the next time you open the box, you get a car, or a house, or plane
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good for you....Originally posted by laurence82:wtf
fireice is looking for people who clone my nick in one form or another u noe
she is banning the whole lot -
...surely there must be religion that worships that bigfoot or the loch ness.... not!
U didn't answer the core of the question. It is reasonable skeptism and just because it is not a religion doesn't means it is not believable. Wat is the difference between the 2 ? There r many people who worships things like monkey god or elephant god etc etc and treat them as religion. Why do u not believe in them ?Unddeniable proof? Depends on who you are asking.
I think u r confusing between the 2 terms of intelligence. DNA has create the living being we see today but strictly speaking DNA have no intelligence. And just because something work in a complex way doesn't mean someone do the programming for it.
Cells forming a structural hierachy.... in turns form a hierachy of animals.... isn't intelligent?
Try putting a few hundred bricks of lego into a box and shake it and see if the next time you open the box, you get a car, or a house, or plane
We have different way of thinking. I give an example of the sand on the beach. From the same observation, one can conclude the sand pattern is created by some being arranging each grain of sand at the right position. Another can conclude the pattern is formed naturally by a set system and there is no intelligent person arranging the pattern (gravity, waves, soil movement in tis case, evolution for the cell) Why must someone intelligent be involved and not simply formed by natural ? Why can't cells evolved and form the complicated life we see ? Why can't sands be there just because nature follow a set of rules ? why must we add some being into the equation when there is no signs tat tis had happened and it is no different from wishful thinking, day dreaming and imagination.
About lego in a box example, if there r a lot of people (1 X 10 to power of million) and lot of shakes (1 X 10 to power of billion) per person and they shake with enough force, u may get a simple house from one of them. Note tat u r only talking only about the impossibility of forming, lets say life without consideration to the number of chances taken and occurances. My example took these into consideration. -
*** here we go again ...
or is it gonna be
*** round and round the mulberry bush
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the moment there's an ID vs evolution debate, you can always count on SIS to come along. hahaOriginally posted by vince69:*** here we go again ...
or is it gonna be
*** round and round the mulberry bush
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I didn't answer because I don't want to... as history has shown, there will be no end to this debate.Originally posted by stupidissmart:U didn't answer the core of the question. It is reasonable skeptism and just because it is not a religion doesn't means it is not believable. Wat is the difference between the 2 ? There r many people who worships things like monkey god or elephant god etc etc and treat them as religion. Why do u not believe in them ?
In all seriousness I did not read the above. No point. Our past has crossed too many times to have another war, which we all know will never end.Originally posted by stupidissmart:I think u r confusing between the 2 terms of intelligence. DNA has create the living being we see today but strictly speaking DNA have no intelligence. And just because something work in a complex way doesn't mean someone do the programming for it.
We have different way of thinking. I give an example of the sand on the beach. From the same observation, one can conclude the sand pattern is created by some being arranging each grain of sand at the right position. Another can conclude the pattern is formed naturally by a set system and there is no intelligent person arranging the pattern (gravity, waves, soil movement in tis case, evolution for the cell) Why must someone intelligent be involved and not simply formed by natural ? Why can't cells evolved and form the complicated life we see ? Why can't sands be there just because nature follow a set of rules ? why must we add some being into the equation when there is no signs tat tis had happened and it is no different from wishful thinking, day dreaming and imagination.
About lego in a box example, if there r a lot of people (1 X 10 to power of million) and lot of shakes (1 X 10 to power of billion) per person and they shake with enough force, u may get a simple house from one of them. Note tat u r only talking only about the impossibility of forming, lets say life without consideration to the number of chances taken and occurances. My example took these into consideration.
You believe what you believe, and I believe what I believe. I don't believe that any number of people with any number of shakes will create even a simple house with the lego breaks.... (oops, I read the last paragraph).
I also don't believe that given time infinite, monkeys banging on the typewriter will result in Julius Caeser.
The thread is about WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD. In itself, it is a personal question that demands a personal answer. Any answer given will bother on some level of supernatural or mysticism.
You don't need to be happy with the answer either because these answer will never satisfy your "scientific" thirst, so there is really no point in talking about it.
When you enter a thread, it will inevitably become a session of flaming and counter flaming.... I don't think I have neither the time or interest for this. Therefore it will be locked.... If the TS wishes to have this thread reopened, please PM me.
To each his own SIS, to each his own.