Can christian buy ToTO ar?

• noahnoah

  1 Mar 07, 21:52

  
  I just wonder christian can bet on Toto a
  
  not ar
• M©+square

  1 Mar 07, 22:10

  hmm....reminds me of raptured.
• laurence82

  1 Mar 07, 22:11

  i tot got many topics liao
  
  mainly the title would be
  
  can christians gamble or not
  
  
• Chin Eng

  2 Mar 07, 06:35

  Originally posted by noahnoah:

  I just wonder christian can bet on Toto a
  
  not ar

  Christian CAN buy Toto: you go to the Toto booth, cross out whatever number you want, pay the lady behind the counter and there you go.
  
  .... but I think the question is: SHOULD Christians buy Toto? My opinion is, NO. The reason? Toto, like all forms of games involving staking in a certain amount of money is gambling.
  
  So noah2, should Christians gamble?
• tt3

  2 Mar 07, 06:52

  cannot la... if they spend their $$ on toto den e pastor eat wat...
• davidche

  2 Mar 07, 09:38

  Originally posted by Chin Eng:

  Christian CAN buy Toto: you go to the Toto booth, cross out whatever number you want, pay the lady behind the counter and there you go.
  
  .... but I think the question is: SHOULD Christians buy Toto? My opinion is, NO. The reason? Toto, like all forms of games involving staking in a certain amount of money is gambling.
  
  So noah2, should Christians gamble?

  Why is gambling wrong?
  
  I played some played mahjong on CNY, but as long as i dont get addicted by it, or be too worked up on the money, i dont see whats wrong with it.
  
  
• Icemoon

  2 Mar 07, 09:55

  Originally posted by davidche:

  Why is gambling wrong?
  
  I played some played mahjong on CNY, but as long as i dont get addicted by it, or be too worked up on the money, i dont see whats wrong with it.
  
  

  You are comparing apples and oranges.
  
  Many people play mahjong sans the gambling (like computer games) .. but how many will play toto without the gambling?
• hobochua

  2 Mar 07, 10:03

  Why not...They are human beings...
  7 Sin od of them is Greed
• Chin Eng

  2 Mar 07, 10:08

  Originally posted by davidche:

  Why is gambling wrong?
  
  I played some played mahjong on CNY, but as long as i dont get addicted by it, or be too worked up on the money, i dont see whats wrong with it.
  
  

  before shooting off your mouth again, why not check with your pastor as to what HE thinks of gambling?
• Icemoon

  2 Mar 07, 10:11

  Small gambling is like going to the arcade.
  
  You pay and pay in order to pick up the cutest soft toy in the machine (I dunno what is that machine called).
  
  Or you pay and pay to beat the boss in some arcade game.
  
  So can Christians play arcade?
• noahnoah

  2 Mar 07, 10:13

  
• Chin Eng

  2 Mar 07, 10:36

  Originally posted by Icemoon:

  Small gambling is like going to the arcade.
  
  You pay and pay in order to pick up the cutest soft toy in the machine (I dunno what is that machine called).
  
  Or you pay and pay to beat the boss in some arcade game.
  
  So can Christians play arcade?

  Well, there will always be dumb-s who'd pay tons of money to grab the cutest soft toy in the machine... as well the other dumb-s who'd dump coins into the arcade game to whack the boss. Their money, their business.
  
  I'm just wondering how many self-respecting Christians who'd continually indulge in such activities.
  
  Maybe the issue is: What is considered as gambling? To those who think that toto is not gambling and attempts to split hair as to what gambling is then perhaps going to the movie is a gamble. Because then, one can argue that one is staking the cost of the movie ($9 on the weekend?) for the possibility of being entertained. If one does not enjoy the movie, then can we say that the gamble did not pay off. That being the case, I lost when I watched Epic Movie.
  
  Or
  
  I gamble with my life when I cross the road (especially not at traffic junctions and in heavy traffic) in that I am staking my life for a chance to get to other side. I win when I get to the other side alive and I lose when I get hit by a car. That being the case, I won this morning and I intend to keep my winning streak.
  
  So then what is this "gambling" we are talking about? So are we going to say that "ok, I am not addicted, therefore I am not gambling!" or "I am not in it for the money" or "I only do it for fun" or "I donate money to Singapore Pools so that they can do charity work"
  
  Non-Christians who think that Toto is not gambling, it's your prerogative, no issue with me.
  Christians who think that Toto is not gambling, go check with your pastor.
  
  At the end of the day these Christians who still think that it's not gambling, you do not need to justify to anyone else here in EH as to what your stand is, it's between you and God.
• Chin Eng

  2 Mar 07, 10:37

  Originally posted by noahnoah:

  

  aside from a smiley, do you have any other comments?
• noahnoah

  2 Mar 07, 10:55

  
  Haha i also duin know
  
  Leh
  
  As long dun indulge in it should be ok lor
  
  just make sure have to answer to ownself lor
• sillyme

  2 Mar 07, 10:58

  Originally posted by Chin Eng:
  [b]That being the case, I lost when I watched Epic Movie.b]

  I lost too
• sillyme

  2 Mar 07, 11:04

  Originally posted by noahnoah:

  Haha i also duin know
  
  Leh
  
  As long dun indulge in it should be ok lor
  
  just make sure have to answer to ownself lor

  I think you attend church, do you?
  
  We also need to be answerable to God. We need to be prudent in how to spend money or the blessings that are given to us.
  
  Actually this topic was discussed previously. However, it has expired. Some of you may want to refer to that thread.
  http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=178725
• klydeer

  5 Mar 07, 17:47

  What's the intention to buy Toto ?
  
  Covetousness bah....
  
  "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows" (I Timothy 6:10).
  
  
• ee82hl

  6 Mar 07, 15:07

  Can i ask ar, why you want to buy toto?
• popikachu

  10 Mar 07, 13:45

  toto is a gamble
  
  chirstian can gamble...
  
  i change the 'should' to something else... 'why'
  
  why chirstian gamble?
  firstly, they are merely for the sake of fun...
  secondly, thought they involve money, they dont really care about the money, they are on the fun side whereas most people are for money...
  
  so why chirstian usually dont gamble?
  cus for a simple reason, they dont lust for money...
  
  you may not understand what i write cus i know my english suc like siao... lol
• allentyb

  10 Mar 07, 13:48

  
• Chin Eng

  10 Mar 07, 13:53

  Originally posted by popikachu:

  you may not understand what i write cus i know my english suc like siao... lol

  yes, I totally agree with you!
• hiphop2009

  10 Mar 07, 13:53

  can christian go casino?
  
  this thread is meaningless...
• Chin Eng

  10 Mar 07, 14:05

  Originally posted by hiphop2009:

  can christian go casino?
  
  this thread is meaningless...

  yes, this thread is meaningless because people choose to define gambling in various ways so that they do not fall into the category of gambler.
  
  to answer your question: yes Christian can visit a casino.
  
  my entire family walked through many casinos when we were Las Vegas recently.
• popikachu

  10 Mar 07, 23:21

  Originally posted by Chin Eng:

  yes, I totally agree with you!

  so direct...
  hurt me...
• davidche

  11 Mar 07, 12:14

  Originally posted by Chin Eng:
  [b]
  
  yes, this thread is meaningless because people choose to define gambling in various ways so that they do not fall into the category of gambler.
  
  b]

  maybe TS can define for us gambling then the discussion can continue.