Is your Pastor a TT Durai?
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Huh...tithing isnt right at all....Originally posted by soulwinner:pope nicholas should not going around to judge which church is right in tithing... The end of days god will do it... I am sure u don't wish send ur soul to the dEVIL????
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It is easier for a pastor to be a Durai than vice-versa.I once knew a Catholic priest who was a crook and stole millions from the church.May he be hanged out to dry (durai) and burn in Hell.
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Ever heard of forgiveness and reconciliation...dont be quick to damn others lest u be damned.Originally posted by Short Ninja:It is easier for a pastor to be a Durai than vice-versa.I once knew a Catholic priest who was a crook and stole millions from the church.May he be hanged out to dry (durai) and burn in Hell. -
hmm .. do we know the priest too?Originally posted by Short Ninja:It is easier for a pastor to be a Durai than vice-versa.I once knew a Catholic priest who was a crook and stole millions from the church.May he be hanged out to dry (durai) and burn in Hell. -
Why worry so much? Just be smart with your money and also remember to search your own heart first. Remember while we shouldn't give money to cheats... are we all that willing to give to worthy causes in the first place? If we can't find in it our own hearts to be generous even when we should then prehaps people cheating us is one of the lesser of our concerns.
In the end, there will still be a day of reckoning for all those cheats, it will be fair and square in the end so don't get all worked up about it and fix what you can now fix. -
I don't think there should be forgiveness and reconciliation if the guilty is not sincere and apologetic.Originally posted by Pope Nicholas:Ever heard of forgiveness and reconciliation...dont be quick to damn others lest u be damned.
It is very easy to say, "lets forgive", everytime someone commits a mistake, especially if you are not involved in the scam. -
That priest was from my church.....im most certainly involved hahaOriginally posted by Icemoon:I don't think there should be forgiveness and reconciliation if the guilty is not sincere and apologetic.
It is very easy to say, "lets forgive", everytime someone commits a mistake, especially if you are not involved in the scam.
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Yea right .. you working liao meh? I think your parents are more involved than you. Haha.Originally posted by Pope Nicholas:That priest was from my church.....im most certainly involved haha
I believe he had repented....we must forgive him
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Haha true trueOriginally posted by Icemoon:Yea right .. you working liao meh? I think your parents are more involved than you. Haha.
Btw .. what is he doing now?
I think in Changi Prison LOL.
He is still legally a priest...
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he conducts mass for other inmates?Originally posted by Pope Nicholas:I think in Changi Prison LOL.
He is still legally a priest... 
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Maybe i will kill someone, get convicted and sentenced to Changi Prison, go for thier mass and tell u whether he still conducts itOriginally posted by Icemoon:he conducts mass for other inmates? 
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if you are convicted .. I think you will face the death sentence a few days later. And the hanging is always on friday right?Originally posted by Pope Nicholas:Maybe i will kill someone, get convicted and sentenced to Changi Prison, go for thier mass and tell u whether he still conducts it 
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actually i've been thinking.. where should we draw the line between reasonable and extravagant pay?
a 2L camry is extravagant compared to a 1.6L corolla, a bmw is extravagant compared to a 2L camry. So should a pastor b driving a corolla, a camry or bmw?
how bout housing? should a pastor live in a 5 room flat, an executive flat, a condo, terrace, semi-d or bungalow? to wad extent is reasonable?
if he gets his money from sales of books and cds, issit reasonable for him to spend his money on luxurious items? afterall, those money do not come from tithes..
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I believe Pastor r supposed to lead frugal lifestyle. Tis is because in the bible themselves, it always encourage people to donate their wealth to the poorer people. In the bible itself jesus also condemn people who make money from religion. The bible also keep mentioning donating money during their life will let them reap treasures in heaven etc. If they don't follow these advices, then are they practising wat they preach literally ? They r supposed to be spiritually leaders and role models themselves. Is the religion suppose to generate wealth for themselves and ignore the poorer people or help the poorer people and not spurge on waste.
If u ask me, why don't they compared themselves with the lifestyle of an average singaporean. The median income of a household in singapore is about 3600. If the pastor and all the people in the household get a combined 3600, it is pretty fair enough and they r leading a normal singaporean income. It is not even frugal, it is normal and there r probably half of its followers earning less than he (if distribution is normal). If u can afford a camry or a condo with solely 3600, then so be it.
Of course any other allowances r part of income. It is silly to have a person getting a 3600 salary but a 2 million allowances and defeat the whole purpose