what makes you to stay strong for GOd despite
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... all the disappointment and downs in life? -
the reward of going heaven thus not going hell
if the reward is taken away no 1 will trust god anymore -
Haha typical behaviour of humans...Originally posted by ghimpheng:the reward of going heaven thus not going hell
if the reward is taken away no 1 will trust god anymore
if there is no rewards, why would i even bother. 
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good question...
for me, yes, its the reward at the end of the race.
but is it a wrong mentality?? lets see how the more experienced christains address this -
Why must it be a race at the first place?Originally posted by OO_OO_OO:good question...
for me, yes, its the reward at the end of the race.
My name is Tan Ah Teck and I am an honest man. -
1) I am not strong in myself. I am weak. But the Christ indwelling me strengthens me. Through His life IN me I can handle all the ups and downs in life. I let Him handle all of it through me.Originally posted by noahnoah:... all the disappointment and downs in life?
Christians are saved from the penalty of sin by the SUBSTITUTIONARY DEATH OF CHRIST, they are saved [and given divine Life] against the power of sin [and we might as well include all the things that life throws at them] by His SUBSTITIONARY LIFE indwelling in them.
We can handle life here by His life IN us. Rely on Him, He is your strength.
this great verse is practical for daily living:
"...........Christ in you, the hope of glory."
2) Proper perspective- Romans 8:28
your dissapointmens and downs in life God uses for your ultimate good.
Take Joseph's life as an illustration he had many dissapointments and downs in life but:
Ge 50:20 "But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.
YOu may not become a prime minister of 'Egypt', but you will become like Jesus Christ for He [God] is working all these things for your ultimate good [you will be conformed to the image of His Son ultimately], that is, if you trust in Christ alone for salvation. -
because you know who Hashem is.Originally posted by noahnoah:... all the disappointment and downs in life? -
because its who God is, and not what we are.Originally posted by noahnoah:... all the disappointment and downs in life?
because of the faithfulness and righteousness of God.
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Be not as servants who serve the masterOriginally posted by ghimpheng:the reward of going heaven thus not going hell
if the reward is taken away no 1 will trust god anymore
on condition of receiving a reward;
Be rather as servants who serve the master without condition of receiving a reward;
And let the fear of heaven be upon you.
- Pirkei Avot 1:3
You Christians.
I'm not a Christian nor do I think I'm good enough to exegesize on the Bible but I do read it sometimes. Perhaps this could be a start to feel your sadness sanctified, like I once felt too and thats what I hope for in posting this.Originally posted by noahnoah:... all the disappointment and downs in life?
So under Matthew 26:38-39, Jesus mentioned, "My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me." Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."
Maybe, maybe, God does unto us what He considers worthy of us, to be afflicted with hardship because we are deserving for the struggle, for whatever purpose. -
You are quoting from a Jewish text?Originally posted by Gauze:Be not as servants who serve the master
on condition of receiving a reward;
Be rather as servants who serve the master without condition of receiving a reward;
And let the fear of heaven be upon you.
- Pirkei Avot 1:3
You Christians.
Pirkei Avot == Ethics of the Fathers. -
what is wrong with the ethics of the fathers? They understood Hashem far better than most christians today.Originally posted by Icemoon:You are quoting from a Jewish text?
Pirkei Avot == Ethics of the Fathers. -
x2.Originally posted by breytonhartge:what is wrong with the ethics of the fathers? They understood Hashem far better than most christians today.
I was just confused where he is coming from.
If I'm not wrong, he is a Muslim. He started with a Jewish text, then suddenly move without warning to the Christian bible .. so I confuse mah. -
his grace, unconditional love, his words, promises, HIS presence...the way he answered my prayers, ....undeserved favour, divine health, blessings....
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Sorry if that was confusing.Originally posted by Icemoon:x2.
I was just confused where he is coming from.
If I'm not wrong, he is a Muslim. He started with a Jewish text, then suddenly move without warning to the Christian bible .. so I confuse mah. I thought it doesnt matter as well since we have our roots in Judaism and stuffs. Even considering all our doctrinal baggage, that verse from Pirkei Avot seems very succinct. -
I expected something from the Hadith.Originally posted by Gauze:Sorry if that was confusing. I thought it doesnt matter as well since we have our roots in Judaism and stuffs. Even considering all our doctrinal baggage, that verse from Pirkei Avot seems very succinct. -
What? You infidels don't acknowledge the Quran or Hadiths in the first place.
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everything happens for a reason as it is to be done in God's will and in His time.Originally posted by noahnoah:... all the disappointment and downs in life?
trust n obey. -
Being in God does not necessary mean that one has to have an everyday high. We live in an imperfect world and being disappointed some time or other is part of the game.Originally posted by noahnoah:(What makes you stay strong for God despite of) all the disappointment and downs in life?
God make me strong to stay strong for Him. -
Dun believe in God then got what else to believe in...? Ur Pet Iguana ahOriginally posted by noahnoah:... all the disappointment and downs in life? -
Because He was and is always with me.Originally posted by noahnoah:... all the disappointment and downs in life? -
sounds like superman.Originally posted by sillyme:Because He was and is always with me.
lois lane: so will I see you around?
superman: i'm always around -
suffering or cuo4 zhe2 aka failure is what make you grow.Originally posted by noahnoah:... all the disappointment and downs in life?
there is evident explaination for the above which is what you call as evidence. The thing is: It is not proof that determines whether you accept it. Its yourself.. again, this has been proven.
whats yourself? its faith.