need some help for athiest vs. christian on topic-> creation
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Hello,
I will be doing a speech, taking the side of the christians talking about the subject creation against athiests' beliefs, sort of proving their theory(nature is self existing) wrong.
I will base my speech on 3(or 4) arguements/ main points
I have already confirmed to explain - and how it object the atheists:
-first cause ,
-entropy thermodynamics thingy,
The last one or two i still have no clues yet,.
Do you guys have any sources or websites that can provide me other points besides what i have listed.
Ill be doing a one-sided argument, .
I remember reading one that explains basically that the earth is increasing its size or sth...
Pls offer me some help.
Thanks alot
Cheers and God bless
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who is the audience?
who is the grader?
duration of speech? -
what language? English or Taiwanese?Originally posted by Icemoon:who is the audience?
who is the grader?
duration of speech?
Don't be lazy, do your own research. Otherwise why pick such a difficult topic? -
Such a big topic. Is this going to be evaluated?
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my point exactly...Originally posted by sillyme:Such a big topic. Is this going to be evaluated?
dave... seriously, if it's for a class oratory exercise, it is better off to be a little more balance instead of presenting only one side...
just goggle lah... type CREATIONISM, or type EVOLUTION, and viola... tons of info. -
nope, its a very small exercise, which is why i only need 3-4 main points.
5 mins presentation only.
I chose this topic because it forces me to learn on these area.
Very easy thing lah, no evaluation or what de.... its for oral comn lesson
Also, it has nothing to do with evolution, can touch a little on that...
teacher wants me to do one sided to save time....
Plus i am not really trying to reach to any conclusion regarding the topic. -
classmatesOriginally posted by Icemoon:who is the audience?
who is the grader?
duration of speech?
Eng teacher
5 mins
The reason i put this topic here is because i think you people would have more links to the resources. -
simple. one sided argument? Just quote Genesis.Originally posted by davidche:classmates
Eng teacher
5 mins
The reason i put this topic here is because i think you people would have more links to the resources. -
some science and reasoning would be good....Originally posted by Chin Eng:simple. one sided argument? Just quote Genesis.
simply said, what else can you add on to the list(that i made in the first post) that supports my stand. -
you are stepping onto some grey areas here..... science and reasoning MAY bring you into the realm of evolution.Originally posted by davidche:some science and reasoning would be good....
if the entire exercise is for the purpose of oratory, science and reasoning are not that important.
again.... you need to DEFINE the PURPOSE of this exercise. -
the purpose of this exercise is to exercise oral presentation.Originally posted by Chin Eng:you are stepping onto some grey areas here..... science and reasoning MAY bring you into the realm of evolution.
if the entire exercise is for the purpose of oratory, science and reasoning are not that important.
again.... you need to DEFINE the PURPOSE of this exercise.
I pick my stand first, which is christianity, and oppose atheist,..regarding the topic of creation, since atheist veiw this issue differently from christians.
Wheres the difference? atheist believe that there is no God. They believe that nature is self-existing,
So i have to prove them wrong. I only have to say my side of the view can liao.
So i start by saying the first cause theory, like what it is... and why this theory opposes the atheists' belief.
Next, i say the second law of thermodynamics................
so what other points can i make? -
of course at anytime i can change my topic to creation vs evol lah, but it would require more research as i have no books at hand.
Or i can also include some evol stuffs if i am in lack of content.
Pure reasoning is good enough really,
Like for example(not correct) the earth is growing bigger, so from this you know that the earth started from very small.(then grows bigger and bigger until today)... thus, there has to be a creation. sth like that.....
ill reply with some egs from book tmr. logic is sooo complicated.. -
juz shout "UR ALL GOING TO HELL! BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA for 5 minutes"
confirm A+ grade! -
Then Unker Eng can help you. He does product presentation as part of his job you know.Originally posted by davidche:the purpose of this exercise is to exercise oral presentation.
So any idea how to make your presentation impressive?
Maybe you can do with some props?
My xp tells me those who are more creative usually get higher marks. -
If your presentation is to be made in a class of your school and not in your church, then I seriously ask u to reconsider changing your topic to a secular topic. Tis is especially true since it touches on religion and worst still, being one sided and using pseudo science which have been proven wrong from the scientific point of view. You may be bringing potential problem to your teacher who must not propagate any religion and he may not be happy about it. Like it or not, u r propagating your religion in your supposed presentation. If he is not happy, u won't be happy with your grade.
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I suggest you plan the structure then the content. The points are not really important.Originally posted by davidche:So i start by saying the first cause theory, like what it is... and why this theory opposes the atheists' belief.
Next, i say the second law of thermodynamics................
so what other points can i make?
Plan how you are going to start. Start with a bang to grab the audience's attention? Tell anecdotes? Maybe you can tailor your points to fit whatever attention grabbing anecdotes you can find?
If you have stories to tell, you won't need so many points. -
Can't you choose a different topic or subject?Originally posted by davidche:Hello,
I will be doing a speech, taking the side of the christians talking about the subject creation against athiests' beliefs, sort of proving their theory(nature is self existing) wrong.
I will base my speech on 3(or 4) arguements/ main points
I have already confirmed to explain - and how it object the atheists:
-first cause ,
-entropy thermodynamics thingy,
The last one or two i still have no clues yet,.
Do you guys have any sources or websites that can provide me other points besides what i have listed.
Ill be doing a one-sided argument, .
I remember reading one that explains basically that the earth is increasing its size or sth...
Pls offer me some help.
Thanks alot
Cheers and God bless -
...then the "facts" in the content is less important than the presentation itself.Originally posted by davidche:the purpose of this exercise is to exercise oral presentation.Originally posted by davidche:
You assume that the Christian view is that "evolution" does not exist. I think it is safer to say that the Christian view is that MAN did not come from APES. Period! Beyond that it is proven that there is such a thing as "evolution" - ie, that living things do change over time - that is evolution. See: http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/evolution. So please don't make the mistake that there is a pure Christian view and a pure non-Christian view.
I pick my stand first, which is christianity, and oppose atheist,..regarding the topic of creation, since atheist veiw this issue differently from christians.
Wheres the difference? atheist believe that there is no God. They believe that nature is self-existing,
So i have to prove them wrong. I only have to say my side of the view can liao.
As I'd said in a previous thread, I am one of those Christians that believe that there is some form of evolution - and that this form of evolution does not come into conflict with the creation story. -
Allow me to say something. Five minutes is too short for such a big topic. There will be a lot of uncovered points.
Since this is an oratory exercise, read something light and focus on your pronunciation and diction. -
Yup.... this is ONLY an oratory exercise. No need to get all preachy and tackle such a difficult subject.Originally posted by sillyme:Allow me to say something. Five minutes is too short for such a big topic. There will be a lot of uncovered points.
Since this is an oratory exercise, read something light and focus on your pronunciation and diction.
...watch "The Arena" -
there is no way to pronouce properly without talking.
for there to be something to talk about, straight fact and explainations will do the job easily.
marks: content=10
presentation=10
I have considered my choices. If i dont touch on anything important how am i going to get the 10 marks? if i dont say something that sounds deep, how am i going to adict the teacher into listening more? Would he want to listen to shallow, stupid, lack-of-research explaination?
again, for there to be something to talk about, straight fact and explainations will do the job easily.
so do you guys have any websites to provide? -
the thing i know about the arena is some of the speakers speak very fast to save time but the time that is saved is wasted on the babbling of uncoordinated words.Originally posted by Chin Eng:Yup.... this is ONLY an oratory exercise. No need to get all preachy and tackle such a difficult subject.
...watch "The Arena" 
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answering genesis.org...
anyway the book will be sufficient enough .... -
I was referring to the topics.Originally posted by davidche:the thing i know about the arena is some of the speakers speak very fast to save time but the time that is saved is wasted on the babbling of uncoordinated words.