Creationism versus Evolution
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not again.
where is kaister and SIS?
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I wonder why there are still people who opt to believe in creationism when evolution is actually considered a scientific fact? Are they delusional or something?
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After so many creationism vs evolution posts without ending here, u are still posting the same topic...are u delusional or something?Originally posted by pretzel:I wonder why there are still people who opt to believe in creationism when evolution is actually considered a scientific fact? Are they delusional or something? -
evolution has still to be proven to be scientific fact...Originally posted by pretzel:I wonder why there are still people who opt to believe in creationism when evolution is actually considered a scientific fact? Are they delusional or something?
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flame bait... kekeke.Originally posted by laoda99:After so many creationism vs evolution posts without ending here, u are still posting the same topic...are u delusional or something? he's a noob... forgive him... 
maybe he did not read the other posts... -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation-evolution_controversy#Theory_vs._factOriginally posted by breytonhartge:evolution has still to be proven to be scientific fact...
I post then you don't read. This thread is meant for people like you, dude -
There are a number of common misunderstandings about evolution, some of which have hindered its general acceptance.[42][43][44] Critics of evolution frequently assert that evolution is "just a theory", a misunderstanding of the meaning of theory in a scientific context: whereas in colloquial speech a theory is a conjecture or guess, in science a theory is simply an explanation.[45] Critics also state that evolution is not a fact, although from a scientific viewpoint evolution is considered both a theory and a fact.[46][47][48] A related, more extreme claim is that evolution is a "theory in crisis", generally based on misrepresenting the scientific support and evidence for evolutionary theory.[49]
Another common misunderstanding is the idea that one species, such as humans, can be more "highly evolved" or "adanced" than another. It is often assumed that evolution must lead to greater complexity, or that devolution ("backwards" evolution) can occur. Scientists consider evolution a non-directional process that does not proceed toward any ultimate goal; advancements are only situational, and organisms' complexity can either increase, decrease, or stay the same, depending on which is advantageous and thus selected for.[50]
Evolution is also frequently oversimplified as stating that humans evolved from monkeys; based on this, some critics of evolution argue that monkeys should no longer exist. This misunderstands speciation, which frequently involves a subset of a population cladogenetically splitting off before speciating, rather than an entire species simply turning into a new one. Additionally, biologists have never claimed that humans evolved from monkeys—only that humans and monkeys share a common ancestor, as do all organisms.[51]
It is also frequently claimed that speciation has only been inferred, never directly observed. In reality, the evolution of numerous new species has been observed.[52] A similar claim is that only microevolution, not macroevolution, has been observed; however, macroevolution has been observed as well, and modern evolutionary synthesis draws little distinction between the two, considering macroevolution to simply be microevolution on a larger scale.[53]
Other widespread misunderstandings of evolution include the idea that evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics, which applies to isolated systems, not self-organizing organisms;[46] and that evolution cannot create new physical information, although this regularly occurs whenever a novel mutation or gene duplication arises.[54]
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Creationism is dangerous because it denies other scientific disciplines like astronomy, geology etc. also.
Basically creationism thinks it has the final say in all areas of science. -
I have debated this more than you... you post a wiki link... and you take that as fact?? even the scientific community is split on this issue of the supposed "fact" of evolution. All these things in the wiki page are just rhetoric, yet to be fully endorsed and substantiated by the scientific community.Originally posted by pretzel:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation-evolution_controversy#Theory_vs._fact
I post then you don't read. This thread is meant for people like you, dude
I was a moderator of this forum even before you started posting here...
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I guess you should then post the links to where the scientific community is split on this.Originally posted by breytonhartge:I have debated this more than you... you post a wiki link... and you take that as fact?? even the scientific community is split on this issue of the supposed "fact" of evolution. I was a moderator of this forum even before you started posting here... -
x2.Originally posted by pretzel:I guess you should then post the links to where the scientific community is split on this.
Don't think the scientific community is split on this.
They are just split on the mechanisms of evolution, not evolution itself.
For example Gould proposed punctuated equilibrium. You disagree doesn't mean you disagree with evolution. -
this topic machiam pretzel vs. donuts.
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I'm curious as to why I ask for some links and suddenly all the christians disappear. By the way, the wikipedia articles are full of external references. You will need to disprove those sources too if you are to put down the articles. One example is the National Science Teachers Association:
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One example of the global stance of the scientific community on the issue of evolution is:
http://www.interacademies.net/Object.File/Master/6/150/Evolution%20statement.pdf -
This topic has been discussed to death. I don't think anyone can come up with a satisfactory conclusion. Please refer to the following links for past discussions.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=121760
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=202493
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=204733
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=103641
Just wondering why this thread was started since there were already past discussions on this. What event made you initiate this thread, pretzel? -
Thread is closed because it had been milked dry and it is also potentially a flame bait.