Purpose of Life
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no link lehOriginally posted by Herzog_Zwei:If you are going to suffer the whole of your life, kindly retain some dignity and end it.
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Originally posted by dragg:so what is the purpose of life?
2 "Meaningless! Meaningless!"
says the Teacher.
"Utterly meaningless!
Everything is meaningless."
- Ecclesiastes 1:2 NIV -
You want to live out the rest of your life howling and screaming in anguish and present to everyone who cares such a picture of your life?Originally posted by laurence82:no link leh
suffering = no dignity? -
An alternate translation will be - Abel! Abel! ..Originally posted by Skibi:2 "Meaningless! Meaningless!";
says the Teacher.
"Utterly meaningless!
Everything is meaningless.";
- Ecclesiastes 1:2 NIV
That's right .. the Hebrew for 'meaningless' (some translations put 'vanity') and the brother of Cain is the same.
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I agree with vince.Originally posted by davidche:haha, his trouble is that his parents doesnt see him as important,
He has caused lots of trouble for his parents. His parents had to spend loads of money on his operations and he has physical abnormalties.....how?
Very hard to counse hor...l....need help....
From your friend's perspective, he feels unwanted by his parents. To him, it's not about how much his parents spend on him. Help him understand that perhaps his thinking about his parents is wrong.
You as a friend can be someone he can talk to. Show concern, and encourage him. That's all you need to do.
As SingaporeMacross mentioned, love is important. Reconciliation is important so that there is a reason to live. -
Depends on whether he wants to live or not, reason for living is not the parents but your own self.Originally posted by sillyme:I agree with vince.
From your friend's perspective, he feels unwanted by his parents. To him, it's not about how much his parents spend on him. Help him understand that perhaps his thinking about his parents is wrong.
You as a friend can be someone he can talk to. Show concern, and encourage him. That's all you need to do.
As SingaporeMacross mentioned, love is important. Reconciliation is important so that there is a reason to live. -
hm..i also find life quite meaningless..everyday study or go out with frens..nth much lei..
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Perhaps you dont know. Like what sgmacross has said, love is most important. Relationship with parents is love. If he doesnt feel 'importanted' by his parents, he will find life meaningless.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Depends on whether he wants to live or not, reason for living is not the parents but your own self.
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I have communicated with him through msn.
Heres his problem,
Firstly, He feels that he is a burden to his parents since they have spent so much $$ on him for operation. It would be better if he doesnt exist, then his parents wouldnt even need to spend the money.
secondly, his parents doesnt feel anywhere happy when he achived high marks because his elder brother, who is older by 5 years has top scores and is in HWa Chong.
thirdly, he is sometimes scolded by his his parents for not taking care of his room and health. He doesnt want to let his parents feel sad and disapointed anymore. Thus, he thought its better to end himself, ending disapointment at the same time.
In all, he feels he doesnt make a difference if he existed or not.
I think we will have to solve the probelm one by one? -
maybe should post in AA?
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i wonder wad he wld feel if he reads this thread.
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AA people can give stupid ideas.Originally posted by laurence82:maybe should post in AA?
Plus, this is a life and death case.
It would be good to save a soul -
doesnt see the diff here anywayOriginally posted by davidche:AA people can give stupid ideas.
Plus, this is a life and death case.
like i said, it depends if he is religious enough, if not, you throw verses doctrines whatever also no use -
Agree that our reasons to live should not dependant on other people.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Depends on whether he wants to live or not, reason for living is not the parents but your own self.
In his situation, one of his reason not to live is based on his feelings about his parents. He thinks he is not loved and there is no reason to live. Therefore it needs to be addressed. He needs to let go of this thought. -
In my opinion, the issue is inferiority complex which stems from parental and communication problem. They have to talk about it.Originally posted by davidche:I have communicated with him through msn.
Heres his problem,
Firstly, He feels that he is a burden to his parents since they have spent so much $$ on him for operation. It would be better if he doesnt exist, then his parents wouldnt even need to spend the money.
secondly, his parents doesnt feel anywhere happy when he achived high marks because his elder brother, who is older by 5 years has top scores and is in HWa Chong.
thirdly, he is sometimes scolded by his his parents for not taking care of his room and health. He doesnt want to let his parents feel sad and disapointed anymore. Thus, he thought its better to end himself, ending disapointment at the same time.
In all, he feels he doesnt make a difference if he existed or not.
I think we will have to solve the probelm one by one?
Lau is correct. If he is not religious, no point bringing up bible verses. Anyway, Bible verse is useless unless we act on it. -
I disagree. Relationship isn't important but what you want to do in life is important. Your parents can be dead but your aspirations mustn't die.Originally posted by davidche:Perhaps you dont know. Like what sgmacross has said, love is most important. Relationship with parents is love. If he doesnt feel 'importanted' by his parents, he will find life meaningless.
One's life isnt isolated. Its not just about oneself. -
IMO,>Parents die doesnt mean there is no relationship.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:I disagree. Relationship isn't important but what you want to do in life is important. Your parents can be dead but your aspirations mustn't die.
I think one of the images we inherit from God is the desire for a relationship. Thus, to have a relationship can be counted as a purpose of Life.
Also, relationships doesnt nessasarily have to be with your parents. Friendships count too.
Your parents can be dead but your aspirations mustn't die
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If your parents are dead, don't the relationships die with them?Originally posted by davidche:IMO,>Parents die doesnt mean there is no relationship.
I think one of the images we inherit from God is the desire for a relationship. Thus, to have a relationship can be counted as a purpose of Life.
Also, relationships doesnt nessasarily have to be with your parents. Friendships count too.
Your parents can be dead but your aspirations mustn't die
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subjected to IMOOriginally posted by Herzog_Zwei:If your parents are dead, don't the relationships die with them?
okl ...it didnt really work out(dont ask why), but in the meantime, he will live on for the sake of it.
sigh......
Now i got another person need to consoel...this guy has got bad habits and is a ''one of a kind.'' -
amazing you didn't realise yourself needed counselling.
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you trying to spark up an argument issit?Originally posted by M©+square:amazing you didn't realise yourself needed counselling. -
His view is heretical .. I think his relationship is the hold joss-stick and pray for blessing that kind.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:If your parents are dead, don't the relationships die with them? -
ya lah, im wrong. people die liao no relationship.Originally posted by Icemoon:His view is heretical .. I think his relationship is the hold joss-stick and pray for blessing that kind. -
what if he say that god spoke to him in his dream and said that the master plan was for him to die young and go to heaven faster?Originally posted by Ito_^:god's master plan for each and every one of us? -
I will slap this person with suicide tots if he/she is thinking of attempting suicide now. So selfish. The purpose in life is to be charitable and do good deeds to benefit others. I suggest, take up a life policy of $500,000 then after one year, then commit suicide. Becos insurance will only pay out for suicide after the policy is over one year. Do some good pls.Originally posted by davidche:What to teach a person with the thought of suicide about the purpose of life. Hopefully with chrsitian teachings.