Can christians learn aikido?
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Respect is one thing. Fanatical devotion is another story. We've heard too many stories of 'gurus' and 'masters' fleecing their devotees.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Simi devotion to master? Respect the Master is a must in all Oriental cultures. -
Originally posted by Icemoon:huh .. sgmacross can hear confessions?!
violence? not true .. Martial arts teach you to be aggressive, never violent.
One of the priests who hears my confessions lah!!
I don't have that power. Not yet anyway. Haha.
Hmm, I question the need to learn aggression. -
I tot bible say you can confess your sins to your brothers? So technically you can hear, but you can't act on behalf of Christ only.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross: One of the priests who hears my confessions lah!!
I don't have that power. Not yet anyway. Haha.
Hmm, I question the need to learn aggression.
Aggression must learn .. SAF teach one.
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Well some of us are more interested in the absolution....Originally posted by Icemoon:I tot bible say you can confess your sins to your brothers? So technically you can hear, but you can't act on behalf of Christ only.
Aggression must learn .. SAF teach one. 
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:
saf teach tkd meh?not bcct,icct,acct???
I totally agree with the above statements.... which is why I never said that everyone learning martial arts are wrong, I only said that there will be a concern if a deeper understanding is needed.
The typical [b]Tae Kwon Do taught by the SAF is quite safe lah.[/b] -
now I don't know lah.... I ORD many years already. During my time got.Originally posted by devils_advocate82:saf teach tkd meh?not bcct,icct,acct??? -
Man, you don't get it.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Ewww, you stink.... -
nah, not interested in karate leh... is karate or aikido more useful?
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Karate is more focused on attacking critical areas in the human body. Aikido teaches more on patience.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:nah, not interested in karate leh... is karate or aikido more useful? -
Karate is kong shou dao right?Originally posted by Bontakun:Karate is more focused on attacking critical areas in the human body. Aikido teaches more on patience.
How come it doesn't end with a 'do'? Like TKD (tai quan dao), judo (rou dao), kendo (jian dao). -
Te is the Okinawan word of Dao. Karate is imported from Okinawa.Originally posted by Icemoon:Karate is kong shou dao right?
How come it doesn't end with a 'do'? Like TKD (tai quan dao), judo (rou dao), kendo (jian dao). -
i think judo is more about throws right? like aikido?Originally posted by Icemoon:Karate is kong shou dao right?
How come it doesn't end with a 'do'? Like TKD (tai quan dao), judo (rou dao), kendo (jian dao). -
tot TE is the Japanese word for hand.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Te is the Okinawan word of Dao. Karate is imported from Okinawa. -
but, any christians here take aikido? got any church leaders forbade?
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hmm.. i'll take it into consideration.. but very extremist haha..Originally posted by Icemoon:Those Japanese martial arts so paganistic.
I think Christians cannot learn all of them. -
but aikido like very interesting... but alot of martial arts are deemed paganistic. i'm not sure if i should take.Originally posted by sillyme:Remember to put on the armour of God hor
then again... life is short.. one of my life goal is to experience as many things as possible before i'm too old.. bungee jumping, parachuting, learning to dance, learn a martial arts, learn guitar, wakeboarding.. stuff like that.
i'd like to try out pakour.. but i scared to haha.. like very dangerous. -
are u a christian? do they practice spiritualism or meditation and stuff like that?Originally posted by laoda99:i learnt aikido b4.
And karate too. My karate club have christians too.
http://www.pbase.com/karate_demo_taka/inbox -
probably a three syllable word is more catchy sounding as opposed to karatedo?Originally posted by Icemoon:Karate is kong shou dao right?
How come it doesn't end with a 'do'? Like TKD (tai quan dao), judo (rou dao), kendo (jian dao). -
I think there are many things are out there for us to experience. And the Bible won't have a direct answer to everything because it was not part of the culture back then.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:but aikido like very interesting... but alot of martial arts are deemed paganistic. i'm not sure if i should take.
then again... life is short.. one of my life goal is to experience as many things as possible before i'm too old.. bungee jumping, parachuting, learning to dance, learn a martial arts, learn guitar, wakeboarding.. stuff like that.
i'd like to try out pakour.. but i scared to haha.. like very dangerous.
If we are uncertain, we should approach it with a cautious heart. Always and consistently question yourself if it distracting you away from knowing God.
As mentioned, martial arts can be good as a physical training. There are indeed spiritual aspects to most form of martial arts. So it's good to be careful not to let your guard down. It will be good to discuss it with your pastor or mentor. If you are to take up martial arts, then keep yourself accountable to your pastor/mentor and most importantly to God. -
Aye, good post. I agree. For me at least, there is no great contradiction between learning a martial art and faith.
Many martial arts were developed with the history and culture of their respective origins, and so they tend to be influenced by the various religions and philosophies in which they came from. It would be prudent for the Christian practitioner to distinguish and discern what various philosophies are appropriate or not so in whatever he's learning.
But I am not of the opinion that Christians (guys especially) should not know how to fight. I think it is a mistake to equate the ability to use force with unlawful violence itself, or that learning to fight makes one a more violent person. It is a matter of character and using for talents and abilities for which ends (good or evil). But then the misuse of a talent or ability does not mean that this whole thing has no validity for the believer. Last I checked we are still using hand phone camera, the internet and kitchen knives even thought they have been used for much wrong.
Any I think it's a large part of most guys duty to know how to fight, to protect which matters to them when push comes to shove. There is a difference between using violence for righteous and justified ends and using it for selfish or sadistic purposed. I don't think being a willful pacifist is a good ideaÂ… assuming, for the sake of an argument that you are presented with a situation where a madman is trying to harm a child, and the only thing that can stop him is a physical confrontation. It seems to me that at times shunning violence is the wrong thing to do... we must know when to be what.
What would be the moral thing to do? And it seems to me that the kind of person who can solve such a situation with the greatest chance of success is the kind of which applies his martial talents guided by his Christian morality. -
zan4 tan4 bu4 yi3Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Aye, good post. I agree. For me at least, there is no great contradiction between learning a martial art and faith.
Many martial arts were developed with the history and culture of their respective origins, and so they tend to be influenced by the various religions and philosophies in which they came from. It would be prudent for the Christian practitioner to distinguish and discern what various philosophies are appropriate or not so in whatever he's learning.
But I am not of the opinion that Christians (guys especially) should not know how to fight. I think it is a mistake to equate the ability to use force with unlawful violence itself, or that learning to fight makes one a more violent person. It is a matter of character and using for talents and abilities for which ends (good or evil). But then the misuse of a talent or ability does not mean that this whole thing has no validity for the believer. Last I checked we are still using hand phone camera, the internet and kitchen knives even thought they have been used for much wrong.
Any I think it's a large part of most guys duty to know how to fight, to protect which matters to them when push comes to shove. There is a difference between using violence for righteous and justified ends and using it for selfish or sadistic purposed. I don't think being a willful pacifist is a good ideaÂ… assuming, for the sake of an argument that you are presented with a situation where a madman is trying to harm a child, and the only thing that can stop him is a physical confrontation. It seems to me that at times shunning violence is the wrong thing to do... we must know when to be what.
What would be the moral thing to do? And it seems to me that the kind of person who can solve such a situation with the greatest chance of success is the kind of which applies his martial talents guided by his Christian morality.
youre so so so good. -
Primary accountable to your God.Originally posted by sillyme:I think there are many things are out there for us to experience. And the Bible won't have a direct answer to everything because it was not part of the culture back then.
If we are uncertain, we should approach it with a cautious heart. Always and consistently question yourself if it distracting you away from knowing God.
As mentioned, martial arts can be good as a physical training. There are indeed spiritual aspects to most form of martial arts. So it's good to be careful not to let your guard down. It will be good to discuss it with your pastor or mentor. If you are to take up martial arts, then keep yourself accountable to your pastor/mentor and most importantly to God. -
Herzog_Zwei don't have to sleep ah?
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Yup... Another meaning.Originally posted by Icemoon:tot TE is the Japanese word for hand.