Would you agree to this statement?
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Treat others as you would want others to treat you.
A psychologist of sort came to my camp today to give a talk on Neuro Linguistic programming and he asked this question.
most of us agreed that its a good thing, but he said it isn't. its good in a way, but its not the best.
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if im bitter and full of guilt, i'd want others to treat me badly. so i'll start treating others negatively in hopes they find me repulsive and start hating me.
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its good if everyone applies it.
otherwise its treat someone the way he deserves to be treated.
thats why theres such a thing called punishment and law. -
correct!Originally posted by Ito_^:if im bitter and full of guilt, i'd want others to treat me badly. so i'll start treating others negatively in hopes they find me repulsive and start hating me. -
Isn't this Jesus' Golden Rule?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:Treat others as you would want others to treat you.
A psychologist of sort came to my camp today to give a talk on Neuro Linguistic programming and he asked this question.
most of us agreed that its a good thing, but he said it isn't. its good in a way, but its not the best.
any comments?
I prefer the Silver Rule though.
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yeah.. today i was told this thinking is very wrong.
because everyone is different, have different personalities.. the correct way is to treat others the way they want to be treated.
because i might like a certain way ppl treat me. but it doesn't mean everyone likes it too. -
But how can you treat others the way they want to be treated? Everyone is different. You won't know what they are thinking.
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Jesus meant that you love others the same way you love yourself.
The keyword here is "love" not "treat". Pls read properly.
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Personally I don't go by this. I treat others that way is because that's how I want to treat that person. I find it too much of a hassle anticipating or expecting how people treat me.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:Treat others as you would want others to treat you.
A psychologist of sort came to my camp today to give a talk on Neuro Linguistic programming and he asked this question.
most of us agreed that its a good thing, but he said it isn't. its good in a way, but its not the best.
any comments? -
what is the silver rule?Originally posted by Icemoon:Isn't this Jesus' Golden Rule?
I prefer the Silver Rule though. -
The commandment is simple yet difficult to obey:Originally posted by -[0]-:Jesus meant that you love others the same way you love yourself.
The keyword here is "love" not "treat". Pls read properly.
John 13:34 :
"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
Maybe that psychologist is not that wise afterall. -
hmm, i like being touched. i'm touchy. a pat on the back, a hand shake, a hug..Originally posted by -[0]-:Jesus meant that you love others the same way you love yourself.
The keyword here is "love" not "treat". Pls read properly.
but not everyone is like that mah.. some are more auditory, some are visual.. -
How about the people that want to rape little children or kill ?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:hmm, i like being touched. i'm touchy. a pat on the back, a hand shake, a hug..
but not everyone is like that mah.. some are more auditory, some are visual..
Should they be given what they want because thats the way they will be treated in the best way they want ? -
So where does this "treat others" come from? Did the psychologist make it up himself? Obviously Jesus never said this phrase as another poster pointed out. If so the psychologist has just pointed out his own flaws. (albeit unintentionally)Originally posted by dumbdumb!:Treat others as you would want others to treat you.
A psychologist of sort came to my camp today to give a talk on Neuro Linguistic programming and he asked this question.
most of us agreed that its a good thing, but he said it isn't. its good in a way, but its not the best.
any comments?
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The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."
-Mark 12:31 ESV
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Please lah. Most Singaporean only take, never give. U treat people good but they might not treat u good. -
Originally posted by Skibi:
I think it come from this verse:
So where does this "treat others" come from? Did the psychologist make it up himself? Obviously Jesus never said this phrase as another poster pointed out. If so the psychologist has just pointed out his own flaws. (albeit unintentionally)
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The second is this: '[b]Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."
-Mark 12:31 ESV
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Matthew 7:12 :
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. -
Ive read a book on avoiding conflicts.Originally posted by SumOne:Personally I don't go by this. I treat others that way is because that's how I want to treat that person. I find it too much of a hassle anticipating or expecting how people treat me.
It says that everybody has their own social styles. The book classifys 4 types of social styles. Ech one with their unigue ways and ways they annoy people. Firstly you have to determine the your own social style, then the opponents', then you would know what they anticipate and hate from you.
If you are interested: How to deal with annoying people. It is a christian published book btw. -
isn't this something like do unto others what you want them to do unto you?Originally posted by dumbdumb!:Treat others as you would want others to treat you.
A psychologist of sort came to my camp today to give a talk on Neuro Linguistic programming and he asked this question.
most of us agreed that its a good thing, but he said it isn't. its good in a way, but its not the best.
any comments? -
should be the chinese ji suo bu yu .. wu shi yu ren.Originally posted by whereismyrib:what is the silver rule? -
Loving someone is not doing what you like but doing what benefits the other person most.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:hmm, i like being touched. i'm touchy. a pat on the back, a hand shake, a hug..
but not everyone is like that mah.. some are more auditory, some are visual..
The key to loving someone must begin with understanding. It is almost impossible to love them without understanding them. If we want to love God, we must know who He is. If want to love the people we come in contact with, we must know who they are.
For understanding to come in, there must be a relationship between the two people. There must be communication. For example, when you pat someone on the back and you see uncomfortable, you will remember that he does not like physical affection.
So maybe the psychologist maybe right to a point. Interaction with people on a deeper is not so easy. Any treatment given to a person without love is not the best. -
There's a flaw in the argument.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:yeah.. today i was told this thinking is very wrong.
because everyone is different, have different personalities.. the correct way is to treat others the way they want to be treated.
because i might like a certain way ppl treat me. but it doesn't mean everyone likes it too.
The 'Golden Rule' is based on the principle of reciprocity, which is a broad and general basis upon which to build interpersonal interactions and relationships.
While it is true that everyone has different personalities, the fact is that the vast majority of human interactions are superficial enough not to require knowledge of the other person's personality. In such scenarios, the 'Golden Rule' is still valid.
If we take the psychologist's argument to its logical conclusion, whereby everyone is entitlted to be treated differently on account of their personal traits, then it would have to be argued that there must be different laws for different people, which is an absurdity as far as the governance of society is concerned.
Hence, the psychologist, by saying that the Golden Rule is not the best, has committed the error of comparing apples with oranges. The type of interactions that he probably had envisaged is of a different category from that whereby the Golden Rule has its most effective operation.
regards,
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Your reply misses the point, obiterdicta.Originally posted by ObiterDicta:Hence, the psychologist, by saying that the Golden Rule is not the best, has committed the error of comparing apples with oranges. The type of interactions that he probably had envisaged is of a different category from that whereby the Golden Rule has its most effective operation.
regards,
obiterdicta
The psychologist is not comparing apples with oranges but which is the best fruit.
edit: obviously when you are finding out the best fruit, you'd have to compare apples with oranges, and even durian, papaya, watermelon etc. -
your good.Originally posted by Icemoon:should be the chinese ji suo bu yu .. wu shi yu ren. -
I don't see anything wrong with this. You got what you wanted right? To be repulsed and ostrasized.Originally posted by Ito_^:if im bitter and full of guilt, i'd want others to treat me badly. so i'll start treating others negatively in hopes they find me repulsive and start hating me. -
What does that mean?Originally posted by Icemoon:should be the chinese ji suo bu yu .. wu shi yu ren.
My chinese sux.