Re: Jesuit 'Oath'
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Originally posted by Skibi:
This is a hoax.
This might be helpful:
Jesuit Oath Excerpt:
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I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and [b]exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.
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Taken from reformation.org
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Bro. Macross, thanks for the reference.
Many Catholic universities around the world were started by Jesuits. Also, the members of the Society of Jesus often had very advanced education themselves, many with doctoral degrees.
While education is not a necessary attribute of holiness and sanctity, it defies common sense and reason as to why anyone would go through all the trouble of educating themselves and others if their aim was to poison and kill heretics.
I know there are some people here who are quite keen to discredit the Catholic Church, but please, do it with more intelligence.
regards,
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Many think that the Jesuits are a crappy religious order, but that is a story for another time...
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haha .. you are the one who think they are crappy.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:Many think that the Jesuits are a crappy religious order, but that is a story for another time...
Study for 13 years still so crappy?
I think Jesuits are liao3 bu4 qi3 .. just look at their contributions to China. Matteo Ricci, Ferdinand Verbiest and Schall von Bell. -
Originally posted by ObiterDicta:
This view is contradictory. To succeed any organisation needs a multi-disciplinary team of specialists. Astute financiers, bankers, recruiters, fund raisers, scientists, theologians, are all very necessary. It is very degrading to call Jesuits mere assassins that poison and kill. Their aim is for the salvation of the world. When their work is done and the world is united under the catholic banner, the Pope can then present the world to Jesus Christ and usure the beginning of a New Age. They are some of the most intelligent and respected people in the world. A simple discussion with one of their seminarians is enough to turn your bible values upside down.
Bro. Macross, thanks for the reference.
Many Catholic universities around the world were started by Jesuits. Also, the members of the Society of Jesus often had very advanced education themselves, many with doctoral degrees.
[b]While education is not a necessary attribute of holiness and sanctity, it defies common sense and reason as to why anyone would go through all the trouble of educating themselves and others if their aim was to poison and kill heretics.
I know there are some people here who are quite keen to discredit the Catholic Church, but please, do it with more intelligence.
regards,
obiterdicta[/b]
Also courageous men and women risked their lives(many died cruel deaths) to get their hands on the copy of the Jesuit oath. Please don't dismiss it lightly. I am very sure that it was/is highly top secret and certainly nothing any official catholic site will want to advertise. -
wah leow .. we all hold the Jesuits in high regard (except sgMacross) .. so what's the problem?
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Some of the Jesuit publications teach very questionable things. Their schools in the United States aren't any better.Originally posted by Icemoon:wah leow .. we all hold the Jesuits in high regard (except sgMacross) .. so what's the problem? -
You must be careful friend, Jesuits will kill you in your sleep tonight.Originally posted by Skibi:This view is contradictory. To succeed any organisation needs a multi-disciplinary team of specialists. Astute financiers, bankers, recruiters, fund raisers, scientists, theologians, are all very necessary. It is very degrading to call Jesuits mere assassins that poison and kill. Their aim is for the salvation of the world. When their work is done and the world is united under the catholic banner, the Pope can then present the world to Jesus Christ and usure the beginning of a New Age. They are some of the most intelligent and respected people in the world. A simple discussion with one of their seminarians is enough to turn your bible values upside down.
Also courageous men and women risked their lives(many died cruel deaths) to get their hands on the copy of the Jesuit oath. Please don't dismiss it lightly. I am very sure that it was/is highly top secret and certainly nothing any official catholic site will want to advertise. -
I have been watching u for too long. I shall put out ur heretical mind from its misery. I beholding the Spear of Loyola will thrust it unto u to cleanse the world of ur scum-like brethen. Only then will we unveil the banners of His Holiness throughout every nation and everlasting peace will come.Originally posted by Skibi:This view is contradictory. To succeed any organisation needs a multi-disciplinary team of specialists. Astute financiers, bankers, recruiters, fund raisers, scientists, theologians, are all very necessary. It is very degrading to call Jesuits mere assassins that poison and kill. Their aim is for the salvation of the world. When their work is done and the world is united under the catholic banner, the Pope can then present the world to Jesus Christ and usure the beginning of a New Age. They are some of the most intelligent and respected people in the world. A simple discussion with one of their seminarians is enough to turn your bible values upside down.
Also courageous men and women risked their lives(many died cruel deaths) to get their hands on the copy of the Jesuit oath. Please don't dismiss it lightly. I am very sure that it was/is highly top secret and certainly nothing any official catholic site will want to advertise.
I am a Jesuit Muahaha....look at my signature...
*Takes out gun wif silver bullet....laughs as Skibi pees in his pants HAHA
But seriously, it has been proven a hoax. U can place anything from my mothers bra to my theology on ants and Jesus inside the Congress Library for 30 bucks. I wont call it a reliable source. I do admit the Jesuits were a conniving bunch in the 1600s when they roll back protestantism and recaptured poland the parts of germany.
Hail the Jesuits for bringing Catholicsm to Asia. St francis Xavier converted more people to Catholcism than anyone since St paul.