Why Do God Have To Create (The Devil - Satan) and humans
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problem is, I am going to sleep soon... ok, you staying? I go remove them from mine first, then go sleep.Originally posted by Icemoon:let's give dave a chance.
if he amends his reply .. we will also amend any tell-tale quote in our replies.
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I remember he posted in EH a long time ago.Originally posted by vince69:how do you think he is going to reply you? you had just bordering on accusing him on something he may not have done. try putting yourself in others shoes and you will understand why what you had just done is not right.
anyway, you will know when unker comes in.
People ask: Why did God create something bad. Ans by him as i remembered is: God did not create something bad. he created something good but the thing out of his free will chose bad. thus, God didnt create bad.
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very nice
accuse people liao want to erase
in a Christianity forum somemore
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I remember he posted in EH a long time ago.Originally posted by vince69:how do you think he is going to reply you? you had just bordering on accusing him on something he may not have done. try putting yourself in others shoes and you will understand why what you had just done is not right.
anyway, you will know when unker comes in.
People ask: Why did God create something bad. Ans by him as i remembered is: God did not create something bad. he created something good but the thing out of his free will chose bad. thus, God didnt create bad.
It is a common question by non-believers right? -
ok .. i am done removing mine.Originally posted by vince69:problem is, I am going to sleep soon... ok, you staying? I go remove them from mine first, then go sleep.
dave .. this is the most I can help you liao.
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the question is, did he said/implied that the Bible is wrong?Originally posted by davidche:I remember he posted in EH a long time ago.
People ask: Why did God create something bad. Ans by him as i remembered is: God did not create something bad. he created something good but the thing out of his free will chose bad. thus, God didnt create bad.
It is a common question by non-believers right? -
same here.Originally posted by Icemoon:ok .. i am done removing mine.
dave .. this is the most I can help you liao. -
if dave can repent it will be good.Originally posted by laurence82:very nice
accuse people liao want to erase
in a Christianity forum somemore -
repent is by acknowledging that you have done wrong, not by attempting to erase your mistakes and hope others dont know
anyone wanna try editing sillyme's one? -
only fireice can do it right?Originally posted by laurence82:anyone wanna try editing sillyme's one? -
not even fireice can do it
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ok .. time to summon the hackers.
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Edit what ah?
The post I quoted is still intact. -
er okOriginally posted by Icemoon:ok .. time to summon the hackers.
AAAH EEEEE OOOOO SAIDASDAJSDHAVWHDASHBHASVCACDC I SUMMON THEE!
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i still don't see the answer to explain the questions asked
ok there 2 question and we have been targetting the main one (above the devil) do post about why god created humans
1) Why Do God Have To Create (The Devil - Satan) - it is indirectly creating evil
2) Why Do God Have To Create humans - ok he MAY create humans to entertain himself BUT why PUT A TREE beside TO "ALLOW/LURE" if god had not CREATE such amazing tree that contain "GENIUS APPLE" they may just stay pure and holy the rest of the life -
Originally posted by vince69:
the question is, did he said/implied that the Bible is wrong?[/quote]
oh oh. chey, of course he didnt.People ask: Why did God create something bad. Ans by him as i remembered is: God did not create something bad. he created something good but the thing out of his free will chose bad. thus, God didnt create bad.
I have already made it clear liao. he didnt imply that the bible was wrong, his idea meant that the bible was right because his idea says that God created good.
It is a common question by non-believers right?
My question is doesnt what he said MEAN indirectly that the bible is wrong?
Seems like i really have poor communication. maybe its brain problem.
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one way to improve on this, is to read whatever you wanted to write (be it in your reports or posting over the net or email ...etc), read it over a few times and see if the information is correct and if this is really what you meant to say (sometimes, being able to put oneself into another person's shoes helps, as in you may want to word your message in a way that the targeted audience will understand it, but this will take a lot of practices), before submitting it in for delivery.Originally posted by davidche:Originally posted by vince69:
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Seems like i really have poor communication.
(*running a spell check will helps too)
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I think you know lah.Originally posted by Icemoon:so cheam .. so what are you trying to say?
God is the good tree (tree of Life), He cannot bear bad fruits. All things from Him is good.
If we choose the other tree, we shall surely die.
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oOriginally posted by sillyme:I think you know lah.
God is the good tree (tree of Life), He cannot bear bad fruits. All things from Him is good.
If we choose the other tree, we shall surely die.
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so heretical.Originally posted by sillyme:I think you know lah.
God is the good tree (tree of Life), He cannot bear bad fruits. All things from Him is good.
If we choose the other tree, we shall surely die.
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This topic is related to free will, isn't it?
what other tree? Who planted the other tree?
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errr boss, I think you are bordering into over spiritualising the Bible story already...Originally posted by sillyme:I think you know lah.
God is the good tree (tree of Life), He cannot bear bad fruits. All things from Him is good.
If we choose the other tree, we shall surely die.
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This topic is related to free will, isn't it?
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1. Is the devil indirectly causing evil? Or is evil caused by mankind?Originally posted by ghimpheng:i still don't see the answer to explain the questions asked
ok there 2 question and we have been targetting the main one (above the devil) do post about why god created humans
1) Why Do God Have To Create (The Devil - Satan) - it is indirectly creating evil
2) Why Do God Have To Create humans - ok he MAY create humans to entertain himself BUT why PUT A TREE beside TO "ALLOW/LURE" if god had not CREATE such amazing tree that contain "GENIUS APPLE" they may just stay pure and holy the rest of the life
2. God created humans because the essential and defining attribute of the Creator is an infinite and unbounded desire to give and share of itself. As Rabbi Moshe Luzzatto put it, "The purpose of creation was to bring into being a creature who could desire pleasure from the goodness of God". (copied from a book I'm reading now) -
Ok. I stand corrected. I used the wrong analogy.
"Boss" also learning mah
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what book?Originally posted by Icemoon:1. Is the devil indirectly causing evil? Or is evil caused by mankind?
2. God created humans because the essential and defining attribute of the Creator is an infinite and unbounded desire to give and share of itself. As Rabbi Moshe Luzzatto put it, "The purpose of creation was to bring into being a creature who could desire pleasure from the goodness of God". (copied from a book I'm reading now)
Im currently reading how to socialise peacefully, and reducing tensions by improving relationships with people.
if you have any books to recomend....... -
The book is called "The Way".Originally posted by davidche:what book?
Im currently reading how to socialise peacefully, and reducing tensions by improving relationships with people.
if you have any books to recomend.......
Oh .. Unker can recommend you those books. I think he recommended "Seven Habits of Highly Effective Teenagers".