The Mystery of the Book of Revelation - discuss
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I am interested to know how each denomination/church views the mystery of the last book of the bible, Revelation. In particular...
1. What events must take place before Christ comes to earth...
2. Who is the second beast that has the power to introduce worldwide economic sanctions on people? And even cause those who do not worship the first beast to be slain?
3. What is the significance of the number 666?
Please discuss seriously and stay on topic. Thanks.
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11Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence,[c] and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. 13It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, 14and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of[d] the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. 16Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave,[e] to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a
man, and his number is 666.
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- Revelation 13:11-18 ESV -
oh noes!! i got 666/800 for my exams!!!!
666 is the number for di2 ji1 du1 -
After a thousand years, he will return.
honestly, of the entire bible, i can only remember this verse.
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Originally posted by Skibi:
Psalm 16:8 "I have set Jehovah always before me: for He is at my right hand; [therefor] I shall not be shaken"
' to be marked on the right hand or the forehead '
Ex 15:6 "Thy right hand, O LORD, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O LORD, hath dashed in pieces the enemy."
Psalm 80:17 "Let thine hand be upon the man of thy right hand, upon the son of man who thou madest strong for thyself" -
666 is a number that is considered unlucky right?..cos it is associated with Devils or something
then 777 is the lucky no...I know got a hardware brand called 777
that's what my Christian friend briefly told me -
one can always find out what the Gematria has to say.Originally posted by Diehard_89:666 is a number that is considered unlucky right?..cos it is associated with Devils or something
then 777 is the lucky no...I know got a hardware brand called 777
that's what my Christian friend briefly told me -
No, it is just a number. There is no such thing as lucky(or unlucky) numbers mentioned in the bible.Originally posted by Diehard_89:666 is a number that is considered unlucky right?..cos it is associated with Devils or something
then 777 is the lucky no...I know got a hardware brand called 777
that's what my Christian friend briefly told me
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This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.
- Revelation 13:18 ESV
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Im currently looking thru all the possible theories, but obviously such a person or organisation must have a few things going for them to be considered capable of being the beast.
1. Powerful in terms of manpower, wealth, and influence.
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Originally posted by Skibi:
In chinese its called di2 ji1 du1. googleing in chinese is easier cos the words are more accurate,
No, it is just a number. There is no such thing as lucky(or unlucky) numbers mentioned in the bible.
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This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the [b]number of a man, and his number is 666.
- Revelation 13:18 ESV
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Im currently looking thru all the possible theories, but obviously such a person or organisation must have a few things going for them to be considered capable of being the beast.
1. Powerful in terms of manpower, wealth, and influence.
2. Indomitable will to carry out their ideals.[/b]
7 , 12 are good numbers. -
Significance of number is written in Book of Leviticus and Numbers.
Don't google...study the bible and bible history. -
dave .. he meant google about the bible and bible history.Originally posted by M©+square:Don't google...study the bible and bible history.
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I mean, don't rely on google to get answers.Originally posted by Icemoon:dave .. he meant google about the bible and bible history.
And do not get Paul E little to help. The help/answers became disasters.
Get proper info from books and historical studies.
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Yah lor .. fancy finding someone who is little?Originally posted by M©+square:I mean, don't rely on google to get answers.
And do not get Paul E little to help. The help/answers became disasters.
Get proper info from books and historical studies.
Get the Great Apostle Paul lah. -
Ermm....it's not about who the person/writer was.Originally posted by Icemoon:Yah lor .. fancy finding someone who is little?
Get the Great Apostle Paul lah.
It's the person who quotes them....he can quote powerful verses, with wrong context. In a different situation which the verse doesn't apply. Apostle Paul also cannot help.
To one who is unfamiliar with the bible and could quote verses anyhow.
I suggest....just read the forum. -
hmm....Originally posted by M©+square:Ermm....it's not about who the person/writer was.
It's the person who quotes them....he can quote powerful verses, with wrong context. In a different situation which the verse doesn't apply. Apostle Paul also cannot help.
To one who is unfamiliar with the bible and could quote verses anyhow.
I suggest....just read the forum. -
Originally posted by Skibi:
Silent of the lamb
11Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence,[c] and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. - Revelation 13
" Lambs "of God
"Beware of the "Lamb" (false prophet etc),which come to you in sheep's clothing,but inwardly they are ravening wolf"
Matthew 7:15
A "Lamb" loves the "Wolf" -
erm.....Originally posted by Quest*:Silent of the lamb
" Lambs "of God
"Beware of the "Lamb" (false prophet etc),which come to you in sheep's clothing,but inwardly they are ravening wolf"
Matthew 7:15
Wolf and Lamb 
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Originally posted by Skibi:
'While i was with them in the world,i kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me i have kept,and none of them is lost,but the son of perdition;that the true scripture might be fuifilled' ( St John 17:12)
15And it was allowed to give breath to the beast, so that the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the beast to be slain. 16Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave,[e] to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark.
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- Revelation 13:15.16.17
'And there are also many other things,jesus,the which,if they should be written every one,I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written.Amen (St John 21:25)
God's right hand
