another ksm? who's a bad testimony?Originally posted by davidche:We should all be polite to each other.
We ought not be harsh just because others want us to be this way.
Let us not be a bad testimony.
gee,........Originally posted by Chin Eng:first stupid, then some articles good, then stupid because no logic.
so your idea of good articles is because it's stupid?
wads ksm??Originally posted by Chin Eng:haah? ksm?
Dave... spelling errors in the two post quoted by unker EngOriginally posted by davidche:wads ksm??
oh.Originally posted by vince69:Dave... spelling errors in the two post quoted by unker Eng
oh. ksm ... means ... what are you trying to say?
eh?Originally posted by Chin Eng:tag team, vince, tag team.... but no... not today.
the tact team is probably you, sgdiehard, ironside and our beloved mod.... always so polite one.
I cannot help it but I need to ask.Originally posted by davidche:oh.
Its very hard to explain.
Ok,
erm...
Qn: Can God be created if he is the creator.
Ans: No (use of Logic)
Originally posted by sillyme:I cannot help it but I need to ask.
Is this your answer? I do not see any logical reasoning behind the answer. Yet I shall refrain from calling it a stupid answer.
And the website did not state that "God created God". I am afraid you have misinterpreted his answers. According to him, God "the self existing One or He has no beginning or ending, the everlasting God". It is different from your interpretation.
But I do not see kaister in this thread? Or am I blind?Originally posted by M©+square:
But kaister understood.
Where is the Mod #2 ah?
Cheers
You know what the website wrote?Originally posted by sillyme:I cannot help it but I need to ask.
Is this your answer? I do not see any logical reasoning behind the answer. Yet I shall refrain from calling it a stupid answer.
And the website did not state that "God created God". I am afraid you have misinterpreted his answers. According to him, God "the self existing One or He has no beginning or ending, the everlasting God". It is different from your interpretation.
Who Created God?Read it and tell me whether it is logical or not.
Well, that is a very hard question. To be honest with you I just do not know the answer. That question bothered me too for a long time.
Then who knows the answer?
With all the evidences that we have about the uniqueness and authenticity of the ChristianÂ’s Holy Bible, I strongly believe that God exists and He holds the answer to this hard question. God did not reveal His origin in the Holy Bible. No man has ever actually seen God face to face. Men in the past had heard Him speak, saw His glory passing by, but never dared to ask Him the question, "Who created You?"
..
Therefore,the only person who knows the answer is God.
vince said tact team when it should be tag team....Originally posted by sillyme:eh?
shen1 bu4 you2 ji3 leh
dave's the one that's confusing all of us.... when I saw his post earlier in the evening I also cannot find kaister....Originally posted by sillyme:But I do not see kaister in this thread? Or am I blind?
Mod #2 ah? I orsso dunno leh.
Icey,Originally posted by Icemoon:Read it and tell me whether it is logical or not.
Btw .. the author is bordering on heresy .. by suggesting God knows the answer .. he is telling us God is not eternal and was created. And God knows who created Him!
So we dunno and God knows. Tell me whether this is heresy or not?
tact as in tactical lah, not tactful, not tag (as in WWE)Originally posted by Chin Eng:vince said tact team when it should be tag team....
... and he is the tactful one, not the mafia me.
God holds the answer to who created it is what it meant.Originally posted by vince69:Icey,
you read too much into things, what the article was saying is that God holds the answer to the question, what you are saying here is what you think the auther is implying.
I don't think I read too much into things.Originally posted by vince69:Icey,
you read too much into things, what the article was saying is that God holds the answer to the question, what you are saying here is what you think the auther is implying.
Agree.Originally posted by davidche:God holds the answer to who created it is what it meant.
I strongly believe that God exists and He holds the answer to this hard question.
My view is, If the author had know that God cant be created, would it be an issue that he believes that God holds the ANSWER on who created God?
you are right, the answer to what? not the answer to who create God, but the answer to the question "who create God?"Originally posted by Icemoon:I don't think I read too much into things.
The author argues that God knows the answer. The answer to what? The answer that who created God.
This is just basic comprehension skills. Unless the author doesn't know what he is talking about. In that case, the article is trash and not worthy to be put under the Campus Crusade website.
I think even dave knows what I'm talking about.
Don't think so.Originally posted by vince69:you are right, the answer to what? not the answer to who create God, but the answer to the question "who create God?"
what is the difference, you may ask,
the difference is, the former infer that there is someone who create God and God knows who, while the latter only infer that God knows the answer to the question, and that the answer could also be "NoOne".
Originally posted by Icemoon:God knows the answer and He is sure He have the correct answer.
Don't think so.
The following was highlighted in the article - [b]Therefore,the only person who knows the answer is God.
So we have a question that only God knows the answer. We assume, for the sake of argument, your latter question is correct. But it can't be that only God knows the answer to that question because we all know the answer!
Proof by contradiction. [/b]
The answer to what question?Originally posted by vince69:God knows the answer and He is sure He have the correct answer.
We thought we know the answer, but are we sure we have the correct answer?
(till the result is announced, we can never be sure if we really knows the correct answer)
it's a tautology. but how do u see the wrongs in his statement though? i think he makes sense honestlyOriginally posted by Icemoon:Agree.
If this is sent to Cambridge to be marked .. sure kenna big cross one.
It is not only ambiguous. It is plain wrong:Originally posted by sillyme:Answer to "who created God?" lor.
I know which website he referenced. That's why I cut and pasted that part where Sankaran mentioned that God is self-existing and has no beginning nor an end.
I know where you are getting at lah. Normally, the "ten-year series" answer is that no one created God. So if he says "only God knows the answer", he is being ambiguous is it?