First Female Bishop Is A Compassionate Liberal
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ehh. i dun understand this part. isn't pelagianism the belief that people can choose good and evil and they are not affected by original sin? what do they accuse us of ah?Originally posted by Icemoon:But the opposite mah .. haha .. they accuse you of Semi Pelagianism first.
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I attended WEFC before also leh, during the first few months when they first started in Woodlands.Originally posted by ben1xy:i have brought some Protestant stuff i picked up at WEFC and adapted it for the youths. they enjoy it actually.
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don't say historical aspect of the Christian faith .. many dun even know the historical aspect of their Protestant faith.Originally posted by ben1xy:yup. i'm referring to the compilation. and i'm surprised when some talk like they know everything.. but after the first 5 mins... u realised that they are just empty vessals pretending to know. my only problem with some Protestants is they totally ignore the historical aspect of their faith.
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i attended 6 months after they started? i continued for like 2-3 years there?Originally posted by vince69:I attended WEFC before also leh, during the first few months when they first started in Woodlands.
anyway, their head pastor, Pastor Lee Twee Kim (SP) retired some time back
it was really a nice church with very friendly people. i enjoyed my time there -
got so kwa zhang meh? i'm sure the churches organises talks n classes right? do they?Originally posted by Icemoon:don't say historical aspect of the Christian faith .. many dun even know the historical aspect of their Protestant faith.
To them, their history starts from Hillsong and tongues. -
This is a good one, confirm never read the Bible type...Originally posted by Icemoon:don't say historical aspect of the Christian faith .. many dun even know the historical aspect of their Protestant faith.
To them, their history starts from Hillsong and tongues. -
Ben is a Catholic currently in aussie that attended a Protestant church for a few years in S'pore
Vince is a Protestant currently in S'pore that attended a Catholic church for a few yrs in Aussie
the irony -
ehh.. hillsongs some of their tunes very catchy leh. i listen to it when i do my daily jog. i'm a fan of DarleneOriginally posted by vince69:This is a good one, confirm never read the Bible type... 
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that's means, we may have met before...Originally posted by ben1xy:i attended 6 months after they started? i continued for like 2-3 years there?
anyway, their head pastor, Pastor Lee Twee Kim (SP) retired some time back
it was really a nice church with very friendly people. i enjoyed my time there
I was there a round that time, 2-3mths after they started there, and for almost a year (not regular lah) -
which is why I said semi.Originally posted by ben1xy:ehh. i dun understand this part. isn't pelagianism the belief that people can choose good and evil and they are not affected by original sin? what do they accuse us of ah?
aiya .. if a Protestant can accuse you of that .. it is very likely he knows his stuff very well. Don't play play.
The situation is quite funny. The shallow Protestants only know how to parrot their leaders and say Catholics are not Christians. The hard-core fundies say the same thing, except they seem to know what they are saying.
The ones in between are ok .. like vince. -
ohh .. where do u usually sit? i always sit the 2nd row from the back.Originally posted by vince69:that's means, we may have met before...
I was there a round that time, 2-3mths after they started there, and for almost a year (not regular lah) -
Originally posted by ben1xy:Ben is a Catholic currently in aussie that attended a Protestant church for a few years in S'pore
Vince is a Protestant currently in S'pore that attended a Catholic church for a few yrs in Aussie
the irony
I missed that Church in Aussie... -
normally the rows at the side, near to the nursery.Originally posted by ben1xy:ohh .. where do u usually sit? i always sit the 2nd row from the back. -
i will leave the theological wrestling to the theologians bah. i will stick to the hands-on aspects of church work and of couse occassional readings of my books.Originally posted by Icemoon:which is why I said semi.
aiya .. if a Protestant can accuse you of that .. it is very likely he knows his stuff very well. Don't play play.
The situation is quite funny. The shallow Protestants only know how to parrot their leaders and say Catholics are not Christians. The hard-core fundies say the same thing, except they seem to know what they are saying.
The ones in between are ok .. like vince.
oh yah icey, why don't u go study theology or something, seems u appear to take great interest. it'd be good and u will get the chance to debate stuff out with the profs -
it's a really beautiful church. u shld come during WYD! see the Pope.Originally posted by vince69:
I missed that Church in Aussie...
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ohh, the right side. i think we migt not have met then. i always take the left exit. and the cell grp i attended was for young adults.. all around 20-ishOriginally posted by vince69:normally the rows at the side, near to the nursery. -
haha... I no choice, my baby is inside the nursery...Originally posted by ben1xy:ohh, the right side. i think we migt not have met then. i always take the left exit. and the cell grp i attended was for young adults.. all around 20-ish -
Correct me if I'm wrong, the church BS do not often talk about the historical aspect. At the most is one or two passing remark about some Protestant history.Originally posted by ben1xy:got so kwa zhang meh? i'm sure the churches organises talks n classes right? do they?
Maybe the Catholic Church organises talks n classes to discuss Augustine and Aquinas .. but I don't think most Protestant Church so siao on go and organize classes talk about Luther, Edwards or Wesley.
Seriously how much do Methodists know about the Wesley brothers?
How much do Presbyterians know about John Knox, Luther and Calvin?
How much do American Christians know about Edwards and Finney?
You know la .. the only non biblical names "worthy" to be mentioned in many "big churches" are what? Hagan? Copland? XX? YY?
So many Protestants dunno who is Isaac Watts .. but they know who is Hillsong?! -
haha .. read the bible doesn't guarantee you know your history.Originally posted by vince69:This is a good one, confirm never read the Bible type... -
don't want, sure very crowded one.Originally posted by ben1xy:it's a really beautiful church. u shld come during WYD! see the Pope.
The last time I was there, was like 6yrs back, when I was in Sydney (Business Meetings) -
at least will know, the church not start from hillsongs and tongues mah...Originally posted by Icemoon:haha .. read the bible doesn't guarantee you know your history. -
Wah .. then I forever never graduate.Originally posted by ben1xy:i will leave the theological wrestling to the theologians bah. i will stick to the hands-on aspects of church work and of couse occassional readings of my books.
oh yah icey, why don't u go study theology or something, seems u appear to take great interest. it'd be good and u will get the chance to debate stuff out with the profs
Time in Catholic bible college + time in Protestant bible college + time in Jewish bible college.
I wonder whether they let me do my industrial attachment in the Vatican. -
Hey .. the church did start from tongues!Originally posted by vince69:at least will know, the church not start from hillsongs and tongues mah...
we must remember the significance of wu3 xun2 jie2. -
then you become Father Rev Rabbi ?Originally posted by Icemoon:Wah .. then I forever never graduate.
Time in Catholic bible college + time in Protestant bible college + time in Jewish bible college.
I wonder whether they let me do my industrial attachment in the Vatican. -
oh, i always thought that at least they would talk about the reformation period or maybe the crusades or inquisition (they can attack Catholics with thisOriginally posted by Icemoon:Correct me if I'm wrong, the church BS do not often talk about the historical aspect. At the most is one or two passing remark about some Protestant history.
Maybe the Catholic Church organises talks n classes to discuss Augustine and Aquinas .. but I don't think most Protestant Church so siao on go and organize classes talk about Luther, Edwards or Wesley.
Seriously how much do Methodists know about the Wesley brothers?
How much do Presbyterians know about John Knox, Luther and Calvin?
How much do American Christians know about Edwards and Finney?
You know la .. the only non biblical names "worthy" to be mentioned in many "big churches" are what? Hagan? Copland? XX? YY?
So many Protestants dunno who is Isaac Watts .. but they know who is Hillsong?! ). I see history as being very important. it shapes theology and the church itself. the impact that history has on the evolution of our faith must never be understated. it helps depict a clearer picture and let us understand what went wrong where our differences lie.
but i'm sure pastors going through theology school would have to take up modules on that right? i wonder how neutral the material are? do they all turn out to be like Loraine Boettner's book that was so bias?