First Female Bishop Is A Compassionate Liberal
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Katharine Jefferts Schori was ordained just 12 years before becoming the first female primate and presiding bishop of the US branch of the Anglican church.
A quiet and compassionate woman with a sharp intellect, Jefferts Schori is a member of the US Episcopal Church's liberal majority and favored the ordination of openly-gay bishop Gene Robinson in 2003 and church blessings for same-sex unions.
While her election in June was hailed as a victory for women in the 2.3-million-member Episcopal Church, conservatives warned it could make it harder for the church to remain in the 77-million-member worldwide Anglican Communion.
In a message read out at her investiture Saturday at the Washington National Cathedral, The Archbishop of Canterbury, the religious leader of the global church, sent his prayers and best wishes to Jefferts Schori.
"She will take on this responsibility in the most challenging times, but she will be supported by the good will and prayers of very many in the USA and around the world as she strives to lead faithfully, honestly and collaboratively," he said.
Most of the branches of the Anglican Union around the world have resisted elevating women to bishops and oppose homosexuality, and many restricted or severed ties to the Episcopal Church after it named an openly gay bishop.
Jefferts Schori, formerly the bishop of Nevada, worked hard to bring about reconciliation with church members who opposed Robinson's ordination, said Reverend Barbara Lewis, who serves as Jefferts Schori's secretary.
Jefferts Schori held workshops to facilitate discussion and asked each of Nevada's 35 parishes to come up with its own policy governing the blessing of same-sex unions.
"There was one priest who left the diocese on that issue, and a couple families," Lewis told AFP in a telephone interview in June. "Most of the rest have stayed."
Jefferts Schori has said that homosexuality is not a sin and that the Bible should not be interpreted literally.
"The Bible has a great deal to teach us about what it means to live as a human being. The bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear," she told CNN in June.
"The Bible tells us how to treat other human beings and that is certainly the great message of Jesus, to include the unincluded."
Jefferts Schori, 52, has a doctorate in oceanography and worked with the US National Marine Fisheries Service before being ordained in 1994. She is married to a professor of topology and has one daughter who is an officer in the US Air Force.
She is also a pilot and logged scores of flight hours going to Nevada's most remote parishes to check on the needs of parishioners, Lewis said.
"She is a very quiet, soft-spoken person. Very insightful," said Lewis, who was on the hiring committee which elected Jefferts Schori to the post of bishop of Nevada in 2001.
"She is very fair in decision-making. She's very compassionate."
Jefferts Schori, who speaks fluent Spanish, said she brings "different life experience" to the top job of the church, according to the Episcopal News Service.
She expressed a desire "to embrace and celebrate all the diverse cultures, languages, and origins of the many parts of the Episcopal Church," it said, mentioning branches in Haiti, Taiwan, Europe, and elsewhere, and communities of Native Americans, Hispanic-Americans, African-Americans, and others.
"None is more important than another; all are essential to the transforming work of the body of Christ," the news service said. -
Maybe the anti-christ will be someone like her.
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On further thought, I think the anti-christ might just be a zha bor.
Because the devil also know how to apply "biblical principles". Christians have first adam and second adam (Jesus). Devil also can come out with first eve and second eve (antichrist).
So when our minds are thinking, is Bush the antichrist, is the Pope the antichrist, the real antichrist might just appear - as a female. I think bible got say antichrist will be popular .. obviously Bush is not very popular but someone who preach "love and compassion" like the female bishop will be very popular, even among other religions!
Apostle Paul must have known this, that's why he strongly discouraged (is this an understatement?) zha bor to hold church office. That's why the Roman Catholic Church, with oral tradition from the apostles, disallow zha bor to be bishop. You won't know, the bishop might be promoted to be cardinal, then finally pope.
Am I theologically sound?
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Yes. It does.Originally posted by Icemoon:On further thought, I think the anti-christ might just be a zha bor.
Because the devil also know how to apply "biblical principles". Christians have first adam and second adam (Jesus). Devil also can come out with first eve and second eve (antichrist).
So when our minds are thinking, is Bush the antichrist, is the Pope the antichrist, the real antichrist might just appear - as a female. I think bible got say antichrist will be popular .. obviously Bush is not very popular but someone who preach "love and compassion" like the female bishop will be very popular, even among other religions!
Apostle Paul must have known this, that's why he strongly discouraged (is this an understatement?) zha bor to hold church office. That's why the Roman Catholic Church, with oral tradition from the apostles, disallow zha bor to be bishop. You won't know, the bishop might be promoted to be cardinal, then finally pope.
Am I theologically sound?
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If the Roman Catholic Church is the true church, then my analysis is even more sound.
Because if you remember, the Anglican Church was started because of political reasons AND because the king wanted to marry another woman. In a sense, the seeds of destruction were sown then. It is not surprising the antichrist might appear from an offshoot of the Church of England.
Common wisdom says, man falls because of three things - money, sex and power. Amazingly the three things were present during the Protestant Reformation:
1. Money - The Roman Catholic Church needed money so they recalled the practice of indulgences. This sparked off the reformation.
2. Sex - King Henry wanted to marry another woman? This is the 'push factor'.
3. Power - Many of the powers who discontinued their allegiance to Rome did so because of power. Not because they love the new Protestant doctrines.
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More or less, just needs some more detail..Originally posted by Icemoon:If the Roman Catholic Church is the true church, then my analysis is even more sound.
Because if you remember, the Anglican Church was started because of political reasons AND because the king wanted to marry another woman. In a sense, the seeds of destruction were sown then. It is not surprising the antichrist might appear from an offshoot of the Church of England.
Common wisdom says, man falls because of three things - money, sex and power. Amazingly the three things were present during the Protestant Reformation:
1. Money - The Roman Catholic Church needed money so they recalled the practice of indulgences. This sparked off the reformation.
2. Sex - King Henry wanted to marry another woman? This is the 'push factor'.
3. Power - Many of the powers who discontinued their allegiance to Rome did so because of power. Not because they love the new Protestant doctrines.
Is my analysis historically sound?
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Isn't the Pope the representative of Christ on Earth?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:More or less, just needs some more detail..
Women priests are not allowed not because of politics, but because the Church has no power to make women priests.
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For some reason, the world and even many christians believe that there will be an eventual manifestation of the anti-christ. Nowhere in the bible states this clearly.
On an extremely disturbing note, the Anglican Church actually condones openly gay priests and same-sex marriages. I wonder how does this factor to the views of the diocese in Singapore. -
didn't the bible say there will be antichrist?Originally posted by pwnz0r:For some reason, the world and even many christians believe that there will be an eventual manifestation of the anti-christ. Nowhere in the bible states this clearly. -
OOT. You can refer to the official statement of the Synod of the Province of the Anglican Church of South East Asia.Originally posted by pwnz0r:On an extremely disturbing note, the Anglican Church actually condones openly gay priests and same-sex marriages. I wonder how does this factor to the views of the diocese in Singapore.
This was discussed in several threads before. You can do a search for it. But I suspect most of it has expired. -
My apologies. I did not state this properly. What I'm trying to say is many assume that there will a coming of one evil person who is the antichrist and he will bring doom and all that blah blah blah. Many think of the powerful manifestation and think that person has the mark 666 on him, devil incarnate, all that sort of things. This is simply not so.Originally posted by Icemoon:didn't the bible say there will be antichrist?
Antichrist is around since the birth of Christ. It is simply the spirit of disbelief. Every person who does not acknowledge Christ as the one true saviour can be considered the antichrist. -
Yeah. So?Originally posted by Icemoon:Isn't the Pope the representative of Christ on Earth? -
So all power has been given to the Pope .. to make decisions.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:Yeah. So? -
The Sacraments of Holy Orders were instituted by Jesus Christ, not St Peter. Jesus Christ did not make ministerial priests out of women.Originally posted by Icemoon:So all power has been given to the Pope .. to make decisions. -
Do Catholics believe in ongoing revelation?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:The Sacraments of Holy Orders were instituted by Jesus Christ, not St Peter. Jesus Christ did not make ministerial priests out of women.
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yeah.....repeated so many times liao.Originally posted by sillyme:OOT. You can refer to the official statement of the Synod of the Province of the Anglican Church of South East Asia.
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The catholics Banned woman preist because in the past man simply treated woman like Dirt.
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No more revelation, all that needs to be said has been said. Things such as Marian apparitions are not critical to salvation.Originally posted by Icemoon:Do Catholics believe in ongoing revelation?
Maybe Jesus Christ decided to change the Holy Orders .. and He informed the Pope through a dream.
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Can you be a gay and also a Christian?
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If one is sincere about his/her repentence and wanted to receive Christ, should/could any christian prevent him/her from doing so?Originally posted by laurence82:Can you be a gay and also a Christian? 
come to think of it, who gave us the ability to live a righteous live that is acceptable before God, who cleanse us from all our sins, is it not Christ our Lord?
If there is any changes needed in the lifestyle, and free from bondage, and strengthening of weakness ...etc, the Holy Spirit can do a much better job then any one of us can ever dream of.
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This has nothing to do with men treating women like dirt.Originally posted by shade343:The catholics Banned woman preist because in the past man simply treated woman like Dirt.
I hope the next pope, will right the wrongs of the past.
The priest is acting in persona Christi capitis, acting in the head of Christ. Obviously the priest must be conformed to the image of Christ, who is male. Changing the substance of the sacrament makes it invalid. A person cannot be baptised in wine, because the substance is water. Similarly, only a male can recieve Holy Orders because the nature of the priesthood is tied to Christ himself.
The Orthodox allow married men to be priests, but still they don't have women priests.
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you not answering the question lehOriginally posted by vince69:If one is sincere about his/her repentence and wanted to receive Christ, should/could any christian prevent him/her from doing so? -
ah lau... I assure you, I am answering your question, though not in a way you may expect it to be.Originally posted by laurence82:you not answering the question leh -
its like saying christianity got nuthing against homosexuals, or for the matter of fact, against heretics, or thingsl ike anti-Catholicism or anti-CHC etc wont happenOriginally posted by vince69:ah lau... I assure you, I am answering your question, though not in a way you may expect it to be.