Physical healing - Is it guaranteed in Christ's atonement?
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The apostle Paul couldn't heal Timothy's stomach problem (1 Timothy 5:23) nor could he heal Trophimus at Miletus (2 Timothy 4:20) or Epaphroditus (Philippians 2:25-27).
Paul spoke of "a bodily illness" he had (Galatians 4:13-15). He also suffered a "thorn in the flesh" which God allowed him to retain (2 Corinthians 12:7-9).
God certainly allowed Job to go through a time of physical suffering.
In none of these cases is it stated that the sickness was caused by sin or unbelief.
Nor did Paul or any of the others act as if they thought their healing was guaranteed in the atonement. They accepted their situations and trusted in God's grace for sustenance.
It is noteworthy that on one occasion Jesus indicated that sickness could be for the glory of God (John 11:4).
There are numerous verses in Scripture which reveal that our physical bodies are continuously running down and suffering various ailments. Our present bodies are said to be perishable and weak (1 Corinthians 15:42-44). Paul said "our outer man is decaying" (2 Corinthians 4:16). Death and disease will be a part of the human condition until that time when we receive resurrection bodies that are immune to such frailties (1 Corinthians 15:51-55).
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/rfsm-healing.html -
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may I ask young master davidche why he is posting this topic here instead of his own forum? is it, perhaps, that his forum is no longer viable?
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hmm. how is that so?Originally posted by davidche:It is noteworthy that on one occasion Jesus indicated that sickness could be for the glory of God (John 11:4). -
read my testimony loh, real life example for youOriginally posted by OO_OO_OO:hmm. how is that so?
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My forum cant start up. If nobody posts anything inside, it is useless. I wanted to end the forum when sillyme came in. But he wanted me to continue cos he said that EH also was also started with competitors and other christian forums. And plus the fact that he is busy.Originally posted by Chin Eng:may I ask young master davidche why he is posting this topic here instead of his own forum? is it, perhaps, that his forum is no longer viable?
But since he is getting active, and my forum is getting inactive, i might as well transfer here. -
u shld hold a launch party and invite ppl to go mah....marketing skillsOriginally posted by davidche:My forum cant start up. If nobody posts anything inside, it is useless. I wanted to end the forum when sillyme came in. But he wanted me to continue cos he said that EH also was also started with competitors and other christian forums. And plus the fact that he is busy.
But since he is getting active, and my forum is getting inactive, i might as well transfer here. -
Stop giving excuses....again. What you do with your forum has nothing to do with anyone else. It just goes to show how "capable" you saw yourself but the reality is: you are not able to handle it, which is exactly what everyone's saying all along.Originally posted by davidche:My forum cant start up. If nobody posts anything inside, it is useless. I wanted to end the forum when sillyme came in. But he wanted me to continue cos he said that EH also was also started with competitors and other christian forums. And plus the fact that he is busy.
But since he is getting active, and my forum is getting inactive, i might as well transfer here.
Please do the right thing and kill your forum. You can do it by deleting all the post. Alternatively, use it for another purpose. Otherwise it will just be a testimony of your failure. -
... and by the way, dave.... can you do something better than just ripping off some websites? you think the peeps here don't have internet access to read such stuff?
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By your stripes .. we are healed!Originally posted by davidche:The apostle Paul couldn't heal Timothy's stomach problem (1 Timothy 5:23) nor could he heal Trophimus at Miletus (2 Timothy 4:20) or Epaphroditus (Philippians 2:25-27).
Paul spoke of "a bodily illness" he had (Galatians 4:13-15). He also suffered a "thorn in the flesh" which God allowed him to retain (2 Corinthians 12:7-9).
God certainly allowed Job to go through a time of physical suffering.
In none of these cases is it stated that the sickness was caused by sin or unbelief.
Nor did Paul or any of the others act as if they thought their healing was guaranteed in the atonement. They accepted their situations and trusted in God's grace for sustenance.
It is noteworthy that on one occasion Jesus indicated that sickness could be for the glory of God (John 11:4).
There are numerous verses in Scripture which reveal that our physical bodies are continuously running down and suffering various ailments. Our present bodies are said to be perishable and weak (1 Corinthians 15:42-44). Paul said "our outer man is decaying" (2 Corinthians 4:16). Death and disease will be a part of the human condition until that time when we receive resurrection bodies that are immune to such frailties (1 Corinthians 15:51-55).
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/rfsm-healing.html
davidche .. how do you interpret this verse? -
The primary purpose of Calvary is spiritual reconciliation.
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you mean this? Isaiah 53:5Originally posted by Icemoon:By your stripes .. we are healed!
davidche .. how do you interpret this verse? -
ya.Originally posted by davidche:you mean this? Isaiah 53:5