hOPe for christians who committed adultery?

• ben1xy

  25 Oct 06, 10:58

  Originally posted by Icemoon:

  Hitler might have thought .. I did not show the Jews any mercy neither did God.
  
  So what could Hitler have done for the people he killed?
  
  Nothing! He couldn't even go down to accompany them.
  
  

  haha. the next discussion we should engage in is salvation. that'd be interesting
• ben1xy

  25 Oct 06, 10:59

  Originally posted by Ironside:

  where is Ben?

  me? Sydney
  
  
• Ironside

  25 Oct 06, 18:21

  Originally posted by ben1xy:
  
  give me a min to think through this
  
  1. The wife that got divorced was innocent and if she is still looking towards reconciliation?

  The truly repentant husband would return to his wife if that's the case my friend.
  
  

  
  
  2. she has not been married
  

  the same my friend, the wife is given the option whether he would recieve him again or not. Actually the tie was broken when he committed adultery. But he [the truly repentant husband] should seek reconcialiation. And if she accepts him again [which is the ideal] then good.
  
  

  
  
  would this thus require the husband to return to her to really qualify as repentence.
  

  The husband who has changed his attitude about his immorality and adultery should return to her wife and seek reconciliation.
  
  

  
  
  in the event that he doesn't. does this qualify as repentence?

  true repentance should result into action.
  
  

  and if he doesn't repent, there would be no forgiveness right?

  yes, forgiveness is always hinged upon repentance.
  
  
• ben1xy

  25 Oct 06, 18:52

  Thanks for the answers ironside
• Ironside

  25 Oct 06, 19:06

  Originally posted by ben1xy:

  Thanks for the answers ironside

  i hope i had been of service to you my friend.
• ben1xy

  25 Oct 06, 19:25

  Originally posted by Ironside:

  i hope i had been of service to you my friend.

  definitely
  
  cheers
• alvin74

  26 Oct 06, 23:51

  Originally posted by Icemoon:
  
  
  I thought about it and realized this is the wrong focus.
  
  Instead of hoping for forgiveness, [b]why not accept that you have erred and wait for punishment?
  Like the chinese saying - one missed step becomes an eternal regret.
  
  [/b]

  that's hard teaching! hope we all can bear it..
• Icemoon

  27 Oct 06, 00:11

  Originally posted by alvin74:

  

  When the errant husband commits a mistake .. doesn't he go back home, pull his ears and kneels in front of his wife and says "I deserve to die .. wo3 gai1 si3?"
  
  Why should it be different with God who is bigger than the wife?
• alvin74

  27 Oct 06, 00:14

  Originally posted by Ironside:

  Repentance is a change of attitude. As a result it would change his behavior. No repentance in this side of glory is perfect. God is not calling us to be perfectly sinless in this world. No. he wants us to have a changed attitude about sin that would result in a consistent behavior against sin.
  
  

  this sounds comforting tho..
• M©+square

  27 Oct 06, 03:02

  Originally posted by ben1xy:

  i like this illustration. i've cut and pasted it so that i can use it next time

  Hmm....till you truly tasted how is it like to be cheated at, this illustration to me is not strong enough.
  
  If it satisfy you. Then all is good.
• ben1xy

  27 Oct 06, 10:48

  Originally posted by M©+square:

  Hmm....till you truly tasted how is it like to be cheated at, this illustration to me is not strong enough.
  
  If it satisfy you. Then all is good.

  nah, i don't mean it in a cheating/ adultery manner.
  
  i like how it reflected a repentant heart. i reckon the example can be applied for a wide number of scenarios. and it's easy to understand. so it'd be a good example to use when i am teaching teenagers.
• ben1xy

  27 Oct 06, 10:49

  Originally posted by M©+square:

  Hmm....till you truly tasted how is it like to be cheated at, this illustration to me is not strong enough.
  

  
  
  i also hope this never happens
  
  *twist my fingers*