hOPe for christians who committed adultery?
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hi all fellow christians, what are your views on christians who have committed the sin of adultery? Will God still punish them to hell even when they realised the gravity of their sin & repents from it? Pls advise. Tks..
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Our God is an awesome God....for our sake, He died for us for our sins...so if any couple that commit adultery and truly repent of their trespasses...God will still forgive them but DO NOT take that for granted...rem that DO NOT GRIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT...
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David fell into sin, terribly. He committed adultery and etc. But when he repented he got pardoned and restored back to fellowship.Originally posted by alvin74:hi all fellow christians, what are your views on christians who have committed the sin of adultery? Will God still punish them to hell even when they realised the gravity of their sin & repents from it? Pls advise. Tks.. -
Ironside is right.
Repentance is the crux .. not the sacrifice. -
Oh wow? So I can fuck around and I will be forgiven?Originally posted by Samuelpsw:Our God is an awesome God....for our sake, He died for us for our sins...so if any couple that commit adultery and truly repent of their trespasses...God will still forgive them but DO NOT take that for granted...rem that DO NOT GRIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT...
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Originally posted by shade343:
Don't count on it. Your wife will kill you before you get a chance to repent...
Oh wow? So I can [b]fuck around and I will be forgiven?[/b] -
Most castrate their spouses' *ahem*
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Originally posted by shade343:
you can only fark around once .. beg for forgiveness and promise not to do it again.
Oh wow? So I can [b]fuck around and I will be forgiven?[/b] -
Its best not to even do it at all, but if you can't help it then REALLY PRAY and be REPENTANT. For if you say say only and have no intention of repenting, even if God forgives you, the people on Earth may not be as forgiving.Originally posted by Icemoon:you can only fark around once .. beg for forgiveness and promise not to do it again. -
tks alot for this comment!Originally posted by Ironside:David fell into sin, terribly. He committed adultery and etc. But when he repented he got pardoned and restored back to fellowship. -
actually after he got pardoned for his adultery .. he still commited other sins right?Originally posted by alvin74:tks alot for this comment!
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what does repentance constitute then?
if this guy committs adultery and is unrepentant. he then goes on to divorce his wife to remarry. 5 years later , remorse strikes and he repents. What is real repentence? going back to the former wife? -
I tink repentance is more of acknowledging his sins and willingness to NOT commit it again. Going back to his former wife? I tink its better not to but rather focus his life to serve God.Originally posted by ben1xy:what does repentance constitute then?
if this guy committs adultery and is unrepentant. he then goes on to divorce his wife to remarry. 5 years later , remorse strikes and he repents. What is real repentence? going back to the former wife? -
but there is still the judgement that will come from God..Originally posted by Ironside:David fell into sin, terribly. He committed adultery and etc. But when he repented he got pardoned and restored back to fellowship.
death of the newborn..
wonder.. -
real repentance is STOP doing it altogether.Originally posted by ben1xy:what does repentance constitute then?
if this guy committs adultery and is unrepentant. he then goes on to divorce his wife to remarry. 5 years later , remorse strikes and he repents. What is real repentence? going back to the former wife? -
Repentance is a change of attitude towards sin. It is not an act or acts. Repentant acts are the result of the changed attitude in the heart. It is possible for one to do repentant acts without having a repentant attitude in the heart.Originally posted by ben1xy:what does repentance constitute then?
if this guy committs adultery and is unrepentant. he then goes on to divorce his wife to remarry. 5 years later , remorse strikes and he repents. What is real repentence? going back to the former wife? -
good point. i accept thatOriginally posted by Ironside:Repentance is a change of attitude towards sin. It is not an act or acts. Repentant acts are the result of the changed attitude in the heart. It is possible for one to do repentant acts without having a repentant attitude in the heart.
going by your way of explanation ironside, would not a repentant heart not result in a repentant actions.
i do not exactly know how Protestant's view marriage. In Catholicism, it's a covenant that unless under certain sever circumstances should never be broken. I view the Protestant way to be similar?
In this case, should not a repentant heart nudge the husband back to his original marriage with God as the witness? or is this too idealistic? -
My friend, there are two kinds of forgiveness in the Bible:Originally posted by alvin74:but there is still the judgement that will come from God..
death of the newborn..
wonder..
a) salvation forgiveness and b) parental forgiveness.
The former happens once for all time. It is not repeated. It is positional. Positionally the repentant sinner who has trusted in Christ alone for salvation HAS BEEN FORGIVEN OF ALL SINS THROUGH THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF THE LORD JESUS [who died for his sins --> PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE].
The latter is the forgivness of the saved sinner. One who through faith in the Lord Jesus alone has become a member of the family of God. This type of forgiveness is repeated all throughout our walk here on earth. We confess our sins and God through the DEPOSIT THAT THE LORD JESUS HAS MADE ON THE CROSS [WHO ANTICIPATED ALL OUR SINS FROM BIRTH TO DEATH] WILL FORGIVE US.
judgement?
the saved sinner has passed from that. All who have trusted in the Lord Jesus therefore have recieved salvation forgivenss and had their sins judged already for them when the Lord Jesus died on the cross. Judgement is past them. They have already been judged in the person of their substitute, the Lord Jesus Christ since they accepted Him as their substitute by placing their faith on Him.
Joh 5:24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
those who have not trusted in the Lord Jesus Christ, their judgement is yet future. They will have no substitute since they rejected the Lord Jesus. They will have to suffer for their sins.
Think of salvation forgiveness as the forgivness of a criminal. Think of parental forgiveness as the forgiveness of a father to an erring child. The father will surely punish him but certainly not as a criminal. His punishment [or more accurately his DISCIPLINE] is not penal but parental.
To obtain salvation forgiveness, you must trust [or believe] in the Lord Jesus Christ alone for salvation. To obtain parental forgiveness, one must confess his sins to His Father in heaven.
Salvation forgivenss:
Ac 16:30 And he brought them out and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved,
parental forgiveness:
1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. -
then wad abt this bible quote :Originally posted by Ironside:Joh 5:24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners
doesn't this verse says that adulterers (whether once or repeated) are going to hell??? -
yes, a repentant heart would result in repentant actions. The only grounds for divorce in the Bible is when one of the parties has committed immoralilty. The innocent is now at liberty to marry in that case. Or she can choose to remain unmarried and accept his husband again if the husband repents.Originally posted by ben1xy:good point. i accept that
going by your way of explanation ironside, would not a repentant heart not result in a repentant actions.
i do not exactly know how Protestant's view marriage. In Catholicism, it's a covenant that unless under certain sever circumstances should never be broken. I view the Protestant way to be similar?
In this case, should not a repentant heart nudge the husband back to his original marriage with God as the witness? or is this too idealistic?
But if the wife has married already another [and she has not sinned because the husband has broken their marriage covenant through immorality], the now repentant husband is not return to his ex-wife anymore. She is not his wife anymore.
yes my friend, marriage is a covenant witnessed by God:
Mal 2:14 Yet you say, "For what reason?" Because the LORD has been witness Between you and the wife of your youth, With whom you have dealt treacherously; Yet she is your companion And your wife by covenant. -
i love your siggy.Originally posted by alvin74:then wad abt this bible quote :
1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners -
then the next verse then says [notice the words in bold:Originally posted by alvin74:then wad abt this bible quote :
1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners
1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
my friend the sins listed by Paul in verses 9-10 are not isolated cases. They are sins out of a lifestyle and a habit. David committed a lie but he was not a lier. A lier is one who has made lying his lifestyle.
A saved sinner will not make sin a habit and a lifestyle. Yes he may fail and fall but he doesn't enjoy being down there, he gets up and fights sin. -
wad siggy???Originally posted by M©+square:i love your siggy. -
~ Jesus said, "Do you love me more than these?" ~Originally posted by alvin74:wad siggy???
this verse. -
Originally posted by Ironside:
sori but verse 11 which says "were some of you", do these "were some of you" non-believers living in sinful lifestyles before receiving salvation & hence when they were converted, they could get their sins washed & forgotten...
then the next verse then says [notice the words in bold:
1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11 [b]And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
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but does it reference to christians who commit adultery able being washed & sanctified?
the point is, sin of Adultery is a grave sin, can God really forgive?