whats wrong with the "rock" concert kind of worship?
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erm, I was told catholic priests are given an allowance. If you see any priests driving a car, it belongs to the parish.Originally posted by Rock^Star:i rather there be 500 followers who desire the voice of god than 500,000 idiots who only want to learn thru music, celebrate gatherings the "pop" wayb etc.
Religion should be pure, that's why we need leaders who can trod that path. Being a pastor of a church and taking near $10,000 per month, holding other businesses and driving flashy cars, are not my ideas of "pure".
Anyone from Catholic JC here? Who knows how much Bro. P takes a month? I know for sure Catholic priests can only take a few hundred a month to serve basic needs. Salary is not an issue at all for these Fathers, they only want to serve God.
To me, that's what religion shd be.
And if i don't remember wrongly, that allowance doesn't cross $500. -
being rich doesn't stop ur faith does it? just becareful not to let riches blind you from knowing who god isOriginally posted by breytonhartge:so saying that anybody who is rich cannot be a pure believer?? Believing in Yeshua is not about religion. It is about a personal relationship with Yahweh. -
No one is saying there should not be freedom in worship God.Originally posted by gasband:aiyah this kind of question will discuss until the cockroaches become extinct still no conclusion. Why limit yourself when God gives you the freedom to worship Him?
In my opinion, Hymns are satanic becos i saw how hymns make some people sleep and never worship God. How about that? ANd I would have created another meaningless discussion
Regarding the opinion of hymns being satanic.
This is a discussion which is quite straightforward. Because Hymn itself isn't satanic...
It is a christian's personal belief and conviction that depicts what is right and which is not. Just like Brey insist that looking into the Jewish laws and traditions is essential, it's his conviction and i respect that. -
Yep, being rich may even increase believer's faith.Originally posted by de_middle:being rich doesn't stop ur faith does it? just becareful not to let riches blind you from knowing who god is
I feel as long as the pastor or the priest do not serve his Ego and become the item of worship, but God is, it's ok. (God blesses his people and wealth is included. Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Joseph, Job...)
Solomon is very rich but he's humble. After he receive wisdom, he entertained the case of 2 prostitutes and a baby. King of those days don't entertain prostitutes. -
Solomon was very rich but in the end he still admitted "vanity vanity all is vanity".Originally posted by illvsion:Yep, being rich may even increase believer's faith.
I feel as long as the pastor or the priest do not serve his Ego and become the item of worship, but God is, it's ok. (God blesses his people and wealth is included. Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Joseph, Job...)
Solomon is very rich but he's humble. After he receive wisdom, he entertained the case of 2 prostitutes and a baby. King of those days don't entertain prostitutes.
And no .. it is not that kings those days don't entertain prostitutes. The real reason is .. all guys are hum sup and they want to see pretty woman.
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Hmmm....i look at references in a different perspective.Originally posted by illvsion:Yep, being rich may even increase believer's faith.
I feel as long as the pastor or the priest do not serve his Ego and become the item of worship, but God is, it's ok. (God blesses his people and wealth is included. Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Joseph, Job...)
Solomon is very rich but he's humble. After he receive wisdom, he entertained the case of 2 prostitutes and a baby. King of those days don't entertain prostitutes.
Couldn't agree on the Solomon part.
Somehow.
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Just doesn't equate to entertaining the case of prostitudes and a baby.
I could agree that the passage intent is to present King Solomon's humbleness and wisdom. It clear that the passage wasn't talking about how this king entertained the 2 harlots.
The writer wrote on King Solomon's demostration of WISDOM.
I couldn't agree on the assumption that Kings of those days will do that.
Just because it is not written in the bible. It is not wise to conclude that Kings those days don't have proper dealings with his people, namely harlots or lepers.
But you're free to read between the lines anyway.
Just a thought.
If being rich may even increase a believer's faith.
Why aren't the apostles rich?
Yet they chose the humble route to faith.
I'm not saying being rich is no good.
But...does riches actually increase a person's faith?
Just a cheeky thought.
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