Christianity is an exclusive religion

• Icemoon

  30 Sep 06, 22:38

  Originally posted by SocialOutcast:

  Christianity is exclusive because truth is exclusive.
  
  Truth is intolerant of untruth.

  Not true.
  
  It is like Schrodinger's cat .. truth and untruth exist simultaneously?
  
  
• davidche

  1 Oct 06, 13:33

  Originally posted by laurence82:

  Truth in this case means Christian truth, not universal truth
  
  

  theres no christian truth or universal truth. If its the truth, it is the truth.
• laurence82

  1 Oct 06, 13:34

  Originally posted by davidche:

  theres no christian truth or universal truth. If its the truth, it is the truth.

  christians hold christians truth as universal truth
  
  you dare to say differently?
  
  
• davidche

  1 Oct 06, 13:34

  Originally posted by SocialOutcast:

  Christianity is exclusive because truth is exclusive.
  
  Truth is intolerant of untruth.

  applause
• davidche

  1 Oct 06, 13:38

  Originally posted by laurence82:

  christians hold christians truth as universal truth
  
  you dare to say differently?
  
  

  I dont dare
  
  You shld say christians hold the truth to be the truth.
  
  Cos universal truth already means truth, no point repeating the word 'universal'
  
  If truth is the truth, it is universal, cos its absolute
• laurence82

  1 Oct 06, 13:40

  Originally posted by davidche:

  I dont dare
  
  You shld say christians hold the truth to be the truth.
  
  Cos universal truth already means truth, no point repeating the word 'universal'
  
  If truth is the truth, it is universal, cos its absolute

  yeap,precisely
  
  its like, you can hardly change the mind of a murderer if he thinks murder is good and ethical
  
  
• davidche

  1 Oct 06, 13:48

  Originally posted by laurence82:

  yeap,precisely
  
  its like, you can hardly change the mind of a murderer if he thinks murder is good and ethical
  
  

  because he thinks that "murder is good and ethical" is the truth.
  
  I know what youre implying.
  
  
• laurence82

  1 Oct 06, 13:50

  Originally posted by davidche:

  because he thinks that "murder is good and ethical" is the truth.
  
  I know what youre implying.
  
  

  if you know what i am implying, i can sense your faith is shaky
  
  really
  
  
• davidche

  1 Oct 06, 13:55

  Originally posted by laurence82:

  if you know what i am implying, i can sense your faith is shaky
  
  really
  
  

  ask you, do you believe that the place your at now will not topple and crash?
  
  Or do you: ask the authorities what is the architect's name and then search on google whether it is a famous and trustable guy, then you believe that your building doesnt crumble into pieces?
• laurence82

  1 Oct 06, 14:00

  Originally posted by davidche:

  ask you, do you believe that the place your at now will not topple and crash?
  
  Or do you: ask the authorities what is the architect's name and then search on google whether it is a famous and trustable guy, then you believe that your building doesnt crumble into pieces?

  The idea is moot
  
  Does architect's reputation imply the building will/will not crumble?
  
  
• davidche

  1 Oct 06, 14:02

  Originally posted by laurence82:

  The idea is moot
  
  Does architect's reputation imply the building will/will not crumble?
  
  

  if Mr lin's reputation is: he has build 100 buildings and 99 of them have mysterically fallen into pieces.
  
  I know it sounds stupid, but just to let your brains start working, esp when youre using the word 'imply'
• laurence82

  1 Oct 06, 14:04

  Originally posted by davidche:

  if Mr lin's reputation is: he has build 100 buildings and 99 of them have mysterically fallen into pieces.
  
  I know it sounds stupid, but just to let your brains start working, esp when youre using the word 'imply'

  Means 99%
  
  Is there a 99% in Christianity?
  
  You have brains in stats?
  
  
• klydeer

  1 Oct 06, 14:06

  Originally posted by laurence82:

  christians hold christians truth as universal truth
  
  you dare to say differently?
  
  

  You speak of "christian truth" as a non-believer. Davidche speaks of "Truth" as a believer - so to him the Truth is the Truth.
  
  So what is the deal with "dare to say differently" ?
  
  I am a Christian. To me the Truth is also just "the Truth" - Faithfully, i dont brand "Truth" as a "christian truth", though to you is possible because you do not believe.
  
  
• laurence82

  1 Oct 06, 14:09

  Originally posted by klydeer:

  You speak of "christian truth" as a non-believer. Davidche speaks of "Truth" as a believer - so to him the Truth is the Truth.
  
  So what is the deal with "dare to say differently" ?
  
  I am a Christian. To me the Truth is also just "the Truth" - Faithfully, i dont brand "Truth" as a "christian truth", though to you is possible because you do not believe.
  
  

  Precisely
  
  You just said out what is in my mind
  
  
  
  But it still bothers me. How can a Christian still understand the concept of a truth to a believer and the concept of untruth to a non believer?
  
  Cannot be! Nyet! Bu ke neng!
  
  Truth is the truth and nothing else!
  
  
• davidche

  1 Oct 06, 14:12

  Originally posted by laurence82:

  Precisely
  
  You just said out what is in my mind
  
  
  
  But it still bothers me. How can a Christian still understand the concept of a truth to a believer and the concept of untruth to a non believer?
  
  Cannot be! Nyet! Bu ke neng!
  
  Truth is the truth and nothing else!
  
  

  my brains are simple and cannot handle such deep truths thru expressions of words.
• laurence82

  1 Oct 06, 14:20

  Originally posted by davidche:

  my brains are simple and cannot handle such deep truths thru expressions of words.

  Dont worry
  
  Thats why in the Middle Age they came with the terms 'layman' and 'idiots'
  
  Not to be confused with modern meaning of mental deficiency
  
  
• klydeer

  1 Oct 06, 14:43

  Originally posted by laurence82:

  Precisely
  
  You just said out what is in my mind
  
  
  
  But it still bothers me. How can a Christian still understand the concept of a truth to a believer and the concept of untruth to a non believer?
  
  Cannot be! Nyet! Bu ke neng!
  
  Truth is the truth and nothing else!
  
  

  Well, it did occur to me that he actually does not understand what you are talking about.... but push himself to answer anyways.
  
  Walking right with God takes a lot of humility.
  
  I can only say that we all have much to learn.
  
  
• laurence82

  1 Oct 06, 14:46

  Originally posted by klydeer:

  Well, it did occur to me that he actually does not understand what you are talking about.... but push himself to answer anyways.
  
  Walking right with God takes a lot of humility.
  
  I can only say that we all have much to learn.
  
  

  Not neccessary
  
  Some questions require simple answers, yes or no, or otherwise
  
  Thats why we say and do, academicians and theologians and whatnot try to make sense of it.
  
  
• Herzog_Zwei

  7 Oct 06, 15:33

  All heed the Great Yellow Soft Banana~!!!
• SocialOutcast

  8 Oct 06, 16:07

  Originally posted by Icemoon:

  Not true.
  
  It is like Schrodinger's cat .. truth and untruth exist simultaneously?
  
  

  So you are not making any logical point now. Your statement above is both true and untrue. I don't know how to react to it.
• Icemoon

  8 Oct 06, 18:14

  Originally posted by SocialOutcast:

  So you are not making any logical point now. Your statement above is both true and untrue. I don't know how to react to it.

  *shrugs*
  
  Quantum theory doesn't make logical sense too.
• Herzog_Zwei

  8 Oct 06, 18:15

  Originally posted by Icemoon:

  *shrugs*
  
  Quantum theory doesn't make logical sense too.

  How about I shine a green chem-laser on you?
• Icemoon

  8 Oct 06, 18:36

  Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:

  How about I shine a green chem-laser on you?

  you will be struck down by my lightsabre first.
• Herzog_Zwei

  9 Oct 06, 17:04

  Originally posted by Icemoon:

  you will be struck down by my lightsabre first.

  How about you proving the validity of quantum physics by using that lightsaber of yours on your body first?
• kaister

  9 Oct 06, 18:13

  How about I take an ion cannon and blast the both of you?
  
  People, let's calm down and not start WW3 okie?