Christianity is an exclusive religion
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Originally posted by davidche:oh...
I insist christianity is the only way.
too bad, im following how they define superiority.
can i quote you on that? -
hmm .. why do I have the impression non believers like nomood and wisefool are more versed in worldly affairs?
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I know liao .. because the versed ones adopt a policy of isolationism.
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If thats how you define superiority, yes we are superior.Originally posted by nomood:I think this superior business is really hypocritical.
let's put it out in a simple yes/no manner.
christians believe they are the only ones saved and the rest are damned to hell.
yes/no?
And let's not twist the argument with stuff like "technically yes, but...." -
Because I am too busy and not around to post?Originally posted by Icemoon:hmm .. why do I have the impression non believers like nomood and wisefool are more versed in worldly affairs?
obiterdicta -
I dont mind exclusivity
As long as they Leave Me Alone -
Originally posted by davidche:
This passage does not refer to religion at all.
Passage Matthew 6:24:
24"[b]No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other.[/b] -
The main focus of christianity is not about being saved, rather its about learning to be a better person through the teachings of christ.Originally posted by davidche:Believe in him and be saved!!! Hurray!!!
Being saved is a byproduct of being a better person. -
'cos you all practise isolationism.Originally posted by ObiterDicta:Because I am too busy and not around to post?
obiterdicta
unless they declare war on you, you won't step in.
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Salvation by works!!Originally posted by shade343:The main focus of christianity is not about being saved, rather its about learning to be a better person through the teachings of christ.
Being saved is a byproduct of being a better person.
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ooo...Originally posted by davidche:If thats how you define superiority, yes we are superior.
thus, from that point of argument, would you say that your non-christian ancestors all went to biblical hell as well?
this would make for very interesting quick quotes when discussing christianity in future. -
Agreed; failing which we risk over-zealous fanatics, extremists and distorted means/ends.Originally posted by shade343:The main focus of christianity is not about being saved, rather its about learning to be a better person through the teachings of christ.
Being saved is a byproduct of being a better person.
Such as a heaven with 99 virgins.
Most others i have spoken to however, seem to believe believe it works the other way round, subsequently branching into a whole lot of other arguments. -
Well, I'd like to rephrase this a little:Originally posted by shade343:The main focus of christianity is not about being saved, rather its about learning to be a better person through the teachings of christ.
Being saved is a byproduct of being a better person.
The main focus of Christianity is ABOUT being saved, which will lead to the saved one into becoming a better person through the teachings of Christ and the works that this person that will naturally do.
Salvation MUST lead to good works. -
The connection between faith and action.Originally posted by Chin Eng:Well, I'd like to rephrase this a little:
The main focus of Christianity is ABOUT being saved, which will lead to the saved one into becoming a better person through the teachings of Christ and the works that this person that will naturally do.
Salvation MUST lead to good works.
The bible tells us, faith without action is dead. -
Ahah. Thats rather weird. As a Muslim, I have the exact opposite experience. My father invited me to read the bible whenever its available at hotels during our vacation. Ended up with manga at the end though.Originally posted by nomood:again, i stress again, it's heresy to them. no seriously, try approaching a muslim cleric with a bible, ask him to read it and see if he'll chase you out.
In regards to other holy books, its said somewhere in the Quran that the past scriptures are guarded in safety still as well. They were being watched over. What heretical sia.... it was revelations from the divine.
All the essentials are there, where truth confirms truth. Easy to find. Putting two flames together, one doesnt erase out the other, rather, they merge. Dogma hypothesises, is another.
I love Jesus too.
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This is the ingenious thing about the Bible. It strikes fear into the followers' hearts that if they don't believe in Jesus Christ, they will go to hell. But makes the religion self-serving.Originally posted by Chin Eng:Well, I'd like to rephrase this a little:
The main focus of Christianity is ABOUT being saved, which will lead to the saved one into becoming a better person through the teachings of Christ and the works that this person that will naturally do.
Salvation MUST lead to good works. -
Christianity is exclusive because truth is exclusive.
Truth is intolerant of untruth. -
Thankfully you are not a Christian. Because this is heresy that is, like, refuted centuries ago.Originally posted by shade343:The main focus of christianity is not about being saved, rather its about learning to be a better person through the teachings of christ.
Being saved is a byproduct of being a better person. -
Truth in this case means Christian truth, not universal truth
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Can I add that by being exclusive is the only way Christianity can present itself as logical?
Or maybe I am talking to polytheists/relativists. -
This is not what Christians believe. Jesuits maybe?Originally posted by laurence82:Truth in this case means Christian truth, not universal truth
and btw, what then is the universal truth? The truth that there is no absolute truth?
Did this concept come from a god, or reasoning, or madness? -
Of course you need to be exclusive to present yourself as logical
Hence, not universal truth -
Of courseOriginally posted by SocialOutcast:This is not what Christians believe. Jesuits maybe?
Kim Jong Il and these terrorists also use this concept -
I dont believe anyone knows the universal truthOriginally posted by SocialOutcast:This is not what Christians believe. Jesuits maybe?
and btw, what then is the universal truth? The truth that there is no absolute truth? Did this concept come from a god, or reasoning, or madness?
The only way to do it is to push your own brand of truth as the universal or absoloute truth
It pretty eliminates a lot of uncertainity -
One god, 3 religions - Judaism, Christianity, Islam. Why must each exclude the other so much?
How I wonder God will view all these conflicts and politics?