Christianity is an exclusive religion
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Tolerates no other alternative views/religions.
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Jesus said ' I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through Me.'
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your'e wrongOriginally posted by NT2:Jesus said ' I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through Me.'
John 14:6
The Four Noble Truths
1. Life means suffering.
2. The origin of suffering is attachment.
3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
4. The path to the cessation of suffering.
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this thread is about christian practices, not its doctrines. please quote a practice relevant to the discussion which stems from your cited doctrine.[/b] -
Originally posted by nomood:
he is right.
your'e wrong
The Four Noble Truths
1. Life means suffering.
2. The origin of suffering is attachment.
3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
4. The path to the cessation of suffering.
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this thread is about christian practices, not its doctrines. please quote a practice relevant to the discussion which stems from your cited doctrine.[/b]
dat wasn't a doctrine, its the only truth christians know.
where on earth you get that "four noble truths" one?
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Originally posted by nomood:
Hi,
your'e wrong
The Four Noble Truths
1. Life means suffering.
2. The origin of suffering is attachment.
3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
4. The path to the cessation of suffering.
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this thread is about christian practices, not its doctrines. please quote a practice relevant to the discussion which stems from your cited doctrine.[/b]
are you sure these are christian practices?
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Buddhism, hehe. It wouldn't matter, I cited it out of convenience. I was going to google for the book of the necromencer but i was lazyOriginally posted by Ito_^:he is right.
dat wasn't a doctrine, its the only truth christians know.
where on earth you get that "four noble truths" one?
If that's the only truth that christians know wouldn't that make christians terribly singular minded? ie: a kick back into the middle ages? That would totally defeat the point of breaking away from the catholic church... -
I was just making a point to keep the discussion relevant to the topic.Originally posted by vince69:Hi,
are you sure these are christian practices?
*edited... actually don't even quite sound like buddhist practices also.
& btw, those are the four noble truths in which buddhism is based upon. Dun know dun anyhow say...
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wah lau. anyhow quote..Originally posted by nomood:Buddhism, hehe. It wouldn't matter, I cited it out of convenience. I was going to google for the book of the necromencer but i was lazy
If that's the only truth that christians know wouldn't that make christians terribly singular minded? ie: a kick back into the middle ages? That would totally defeat the point of breaking away from the catholic church...
den dun anyhow say ppl wrong la.
besides, its doctrine they were arguing about but the main idea of no salvation except through jesus christ is the same.
i not either, so dun ask me exactly why they argueing about.
machiam like dat 2 who argued over sweet and sour pork last night.. -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtestantOriginally posted by Ito_^:wah lau. anyhow quote..
den dun anyhow say ppl wrong la.
besides, its doctrine they were arguing about but the main idea of no salvation except through jesus christ is the same.
i not either, so dun ask me exactly why they argueing about.
machiam like dat 2 who argued over sweet and sour pork last night..
In a nutshell, christians dont' think they need to follow a religious leader, and are capable of analyzing the bible themselves.
siiigh getting OOT again... -
ic...then u can go to Buddhism forums...the people there are friendlier to help your know more abt the 4 Noble truths.
with regards to this forums, there is only ONE truth - Jesus Christ.
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I guess to a certain degree yes bah. Depending on which Church you are from really. Some like the Jesuits can even accept Confucius as a Saint. But generally seems like the Abrahamic religions more exclusive or self-righteous, people who don't believe in them are referred to as infidels. And generally they don't practice dual religion, making their religion a zero-sum.
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Ito, do you mind???Originally posted by Ito_^:wah lau. anyhow quote..
den dun anyhow say ppl wrong la.
besides, its doctrine they were arguing about but the main idea of no salvation except through jesus christ is the same.
i not either, so dun ask me exactly why they argueing about.
machiam like dat 2 who argued over sweet and sour pork last night..
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jesuits believe confucius is a saint meh?Originally posted by wisefool83:I guess to a certain degree yes bah. Depending on which Church you are from really. Some like the Jesuits can even accept Confucius as a Saint. But generally seems like the Abrahamic religions more exclusive or self-righteous, people who don't believe in them are referred to as infidels. And generally they don't practice dual religion, making their religion a zero-sum.
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of cuz not.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Ito, do you mind??? do it again. -
Mebbe. But if u know there'e only one way to God, that's exactly how u will say. rite? Why tell pple that there r other ways when there aren't? Exclusive isn't quite the appropriate word to be employed here as its connotations are stronger than its literal meaning........
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er...Originally posted by wisefool83:I guess to a certain degree yes bah. Depending on which Church you are from really. Some like the Jesuits can even accept Confucius as a Saint. But generally seems like the Abrahamic religions more exclusive or self-righteous, people who don't believe in them are referred to as infidels. And generally they don't practice dual religion, making their religion a zero-sum.
you mean there are churches which accepts confucius as a saint??
when you talk about abrahamic religions, are you including islam and judaism as well? judaism is clearly highly exclusive. I personally don't see much differences in islam and christianity... -
yup, and anyone else who does not like what they find here, don't let us keep you from doing things more constructive.Originally posted by NT2:ic...then u can go to Buddhism forums...the people there are friendlier to help your know more abt the 4 Noble truths.
with regards to this forums, there is only ONE truth - Jesus Christ.
apologies that we cannot include the other truths.
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Ya, they are the ones who came up with the latin word Confucius and Mencius while others like Sun Tzu and Lao Tzu remain in their English translation. The Jesuits went into China quite long ago to preach about Christianity, or rather Catholism and managed to convince one of the Chinese Emperor to baptise.Originally posted by Ito_^:jesuits believe confucius is a saint meh? -
hmm, yah but it's the practice that's under question here.Originally posted by :Mebbe. But if u know there'e only one way to God, that's exactly how u will say. rite? Why tell pple that there r other ways when there aren't? Exclusive isn't quite the appropriate word to be employed here as its connotations are stronger than its literal meaning........
Christians seem to keep to themselves, often inviting others to join their congregation with the ultimate aim of conversion. yes? Outside of church, it's not likely that christians would ask a close to total stranger out on a normal lunch/dinner.
Also, there are very exclusive rules, such as christian dating as discussed in another thread. I have had friends who wished they had more christian colleagues so that they can share in similar working values. (??)
All these seem to point towards a highly questionable practice; almost similar to scientology. Thus, the question is, does christianity accept other religions existing within the same society? or are other religions merely tolerated, with the ultimate aim of converting everyone? -
Which one?Originally posted by wisefool83:or rather Catholism and managed to convince one of the Chinese Emperor to baptise. -
Only the Jesuits, at least a long time ago. But not too sure about now, because the Pope had an issue with it.Originally posted by nomood:er...
you mean there are churches which accepts confucius as a saint??
when you talk about abrahamic religions, are you including islam and judaism as well? judaism is clearly highly exclusive. I personally don't see much differences in islam and christianity...
Islam, in its golden age, are more tolerant than the other two religion that you mentioned. They referred to Judaism and Christians as "people in the bible" or something and gave them certain special rights. I was also told by a Umma that Islam accept all religions that came to be before Islam, so include Buddhism and Confucianism and such, but any religion born after Islam is a no no.
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Ming Emperor, if I'm not wrong, its Tian Qi, the one that's crazy over carpentry. A number of his court officials were baptised and one of them convinced him to baptise too, saying that the Lord will then protect the Ming empire from the Manchu Barbarians. Ok, cannot explore too deep, if not OOT liaozOriginally posted by nomood:Which one? -
hmm, just to be a little clearer on what you're saying, when you say that islam accepts all religions that came to be before islam, are you suggesting that islam accepts their teachings?Originally posted by wisefool83:Islam, in its golden age, are more tolerant than the other two religion that you mentioned. They referred to Judaism and Christians as "people in the bible" or something and gave them certain special rights. I was also told by a Umma that Islam accept all religions that came to be before Islam, so include Buddhism and Confucianism and such, but any religion born after Islam is a no no.
I think islam is quite poor thing, alway getting bullied by other religions.
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u sure they didn't refer em as "wise men"?Originally posted by wisefool83:Ya, they are the ones who came up with the latin word Confucius and Mencius while others like Sun Tzu and Lao Tzu remain in their English translation. The Jesuits went into China quite long ago to preach about Christianity, or rather Catholism and managed to convince one of the Chinese Emperor to baptise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesuit_China_missions
i read and reread, nowhere it says confucius is saint...prohibition of Confucian customs on the part of Chinese Christians, finally resulted in all Christians being banned.
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That appeared in the Qing dynasty. Whereelse in the Yuan Dynasty, Marco Polo came by to exchange knowledge and trade. Definitely influx of christian people, and happens to be that Kubilai Khan's wife is a nestorian christian.Originally posted by wisefool83:Ya, they are the ones who came up with the latin word Confucius and Mencius while others like Sun Tzu and Lao Tzu remain in their English translation. The Jesuits went into China quite long ago to preach about Christianity, or rather Catholism and managed to convince one of the Chinese Emperor to baptise.