Opinions of atheism
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realli that bad?Originally posted by Icemoon:say lor .. i graduated from there but will agree with you.
my friends always complain about foreigners, lecturers or coursemates -
It will not be that bad if they didn't buay paiseh advertise until so good.Originally posted by laurence82:realli that bad?
my friends always complain about foreigners, lecturers or coursemates -
To be fair, A dot dot B dot dot, this is not a place to put this kind of message. I see that this has been repeated throughout Eternal Hope, and I dare say that this is not a way to promote your posting ratings and annoy another forumer. If you are somewhat annoyed by skyfoo in the past, I suggest you create another thread and discuss it in whatever way you want.Originally posted by A dot dot B dot dot:See my signature -
Got.... But I still respect you what.Originally posted by laurence82:I got no quarrel with u before meh?
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I stopped coz i afraid u will sent killers after meOriginally posted by Honeybunz:Got.... But I still respect you what. -
Originally posted by laurence82:I stopped coz i afraid u will sent killers after me
maybe she already has you in her sights.... dangerous... better come to the bunker...
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Very interesting. So interesting that I can't resist sharing it in Speakers' CornerOriginally posted by skyfoo:i guess u're one of those low-class malays from ITE jealous of ppls like me taking a lvl and a chance to go to uni. and i bet u're one of those dumb idiots who are fucking horny and go around screwing those indecent friends of urs and now fathering a 1yr old kid. allah bless u boy.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=211365&page=2
God bless you boy. Wrong. You don't believe in god. -
dude at least sky knows that going uni is good and going ITE is bad.Originally posted by A dot dot B dot dot:Very interesting. So interesting that I can't resist sharing it in Speakers' Corner
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=211365&page=2
God bless you boy. Wrong. You don't believe in god.
Some ppl dont realise that. Ive seen my friends wandering life away and getting F9 for most subjects. -
wa best...Originally posted by skyfoo:i guess u're one of those low-class malays from ITE jealous of ppls like me taking a lvl and a chance to go to uni. and i bet u're one of those dumb idiots who are fucking horny and go around screwing those indecent friends of urs and now fathering a 1yr old kid. allah bless u boy.
saw the guy from NUS with the double degree who tot showing his gf the mrt tracks up close was cool?
or saw the guy who tot prison was better than nus, tat he decided to go back visiting the second time round?
yea...all tt in less then a week ago...
so u think go uni and get mensa card very great, can become president is it? for ur info, i in local uni and a member at mensa...so i order u to bow down n worship me then...
this is a place to share thoughts n bounce off ideas, not can ppl...
yea, tot might wanna remind u...
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I agree with you. PM button kum lan?Originally posted by munyc:To be fair, A dot dot B dot dot, this is not a place to put this kind of message. I see that this has been repeated throughout Eternal Hope, and I dare say that this is not a way to promote your posting ratings and annoy another forumer. If you are somewhat annoyed by skyfoo in the past, I suggest you create another thread and discuss it in whatever way you want. -
Suggest Davidche go get a life...Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:By asking this qns, i feel that you are trying to imply that those without a religion will have no purpose of life. In my view, if anyone needs a religion to define his purpose in life, he or she is really pathetic just like you, davidche. -
After reading all 5 pages of nonsense, I would have to first apologise for the rude behaviour of my fellow atheists. Rest assured that most of us atheists are not like that.
I'm sure it's the same case with christians. Some loud-mouthed, immature black-sheeps that come along and spoil the reputation for the whole lot of you.
Anyway, I'm quite offended by the post implied by many christians that says that we have no purpose in life. Most atheists lead a meaningful life and contribute significantly to the society.
Do you know that in US, only 0.21% of the prison population are atheists? Btw, 8% of the US population are atheist, and it only goes to show majority of the atheists show good conduct and are productive citizens of the world.
On the contrast, 74% of the US prison population are christians, around the same proportion as their population. Having a religion does not make you a better person.
See below for exact stats:
http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm
The main point is, having a religion does not equal to being a good person. So what if you have a purpose in life when all you do are bad things? I believe I speak for all atheists when I say that it's hard for us to accept the concept of heaven based on the merit of believing in a God. -
kaister,Originally posted by kaister:After reading all 5 pages of nonsense, I would have to first apologise for the rude behaviour of my fellow atheists. Rest assured that most of us atheists are not like that.
I'm sure it's the same case with christians. Some loud-mouthed, immature black-sheeps that come along and spoil the reputation for the whole lot of you.
Anyway, I'm quite offended by the post implied by many christians that says that we have no purpose in life. Most atheists lead a meaningful life and contribute significantly to the society.
Do you know that in US, only 0.21% of the prison population are atheists? Btw, 8% of the US population are atheist, and it only goes to show majority of the atheists show good conduct and are productive citizens of the world.
On the contrast, 74% of the US prison population are christians, around the same proportion as their population. Having a religion does not make you a better person.
See below for exact stats:
http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm
The main point is, having a religion does not equal to being a good person. So what if you have a purpose in life when all you do are bad things? I believe I speak for all atheists when I say that it's hard for us to accept the concept of heaven based on the merit of believing in a God.
No requirement to apologise to miscreants like Davidche as he tends to post without thinking. -
The stats is to be suspected.Originally posted by kaister:Do you know that in US, only 0.21% of the prison population are atheists? Btw, 8% of the US population are atheist, and it only goes to show majority of the atheists show good conduct and are productive citizens of the world.
On the contrast, 74% of the US prison population are christians, around the same proportion as their population. Having a religion does not make you a better person.
See below for exact stats:
http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm
How can Catholics rank higher than Protestants?
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Exactly my point. Religion has nothing to do with whether a person is good or evil, or if he commits crimes or abides by the law. And yes, more catholics end up in prisons than protestants, but that dosen't mean anything cos' you've got to look into the population breakdown before you can conclude anything.Originally posted by Icemoon:The stats is to be suspected.
How can Catholics rank higher than Protestants?
Here's another article for your reference.
STUDIES: ATHEISTS SUPPLY LESS THAN 1% OF PRISON POPULATIONS
by Wayne Aiken, North Carolina Director
AMERICAN ATHEISTS
It's surprising how many people remark to me, "You're an Atheist? You must have no conscience about committing crime then." Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, if we examine the population of our prisons, we see a very different picture.
In "The New Criminology," Max D. Schlapp and Edward E. Smith say that two generations of statisticians found that the ratio of convicts without religious training is about 1/10th of 1%. W.T. Root, Professor of Psychology at the University of Pittsburgh, examined 1,916 prisoners and said, "Indifference to religion, due to thought, strengthens character," adding that Unitarians, Agnostics, Atheists and Free-Thinkers were absent from penitentiaries, or nearly so.
During 10 years in Sing-Sing, of those executed for murder 65% were Catholics, 26% Protestants, 6% Hebrew, 2% Pagan, and less than 1/3 of 1% non-religious.
Steiner and Swancara surveyed Canadian prisons and found 1,294 Catholics, 435 Anglicans, 241 Methodists, 135 Baptists, and 1 Unitarian.
Dr. Christian, Superintendent of the N.Y. State Reformatories, checked records of 22,000 prison inmates and found only 4 college graduates. In "Who's Who," 91% were college graduates; Christian commented that "intelligence and knowledge produce right living," and, "crime is the offspring of superstition and ignorance."
Surveyed Massachusetts reformatories found every inmate to be religious.
In Joliet Prison, there were 2,888 Catholics, 1,020 Baptists, 617 Methodists and no prisoners identified as non-religious.
Michigan had 82,000 Baptists and 83,000 Jews in the state population; but in the prisons, there were 22 times as many Baptists as Jews, and 18 times as many Methodists as Jews. In Sing-Sing, there were 1,553 inmates, 855 of them (over half) Catholics, 518 Protestants, 117 Jews, and 8 non-religious.
Steiner first surveyed 27 states and found 19,400 Christians, 5,000 with no preference and only 3 Agnostics (one each in Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Illinois). A later, more exhaustive survey found 60,605 Christians, 5,000 Jews, 131 Pagans, 4,000 "no preference," and only 3 Agnostics.
In one 19-state survey, Steiner found 15 non-believers, Spiritualists, Theosophists, Deists, Pantheists and 1 Agnostic among nearly 83,000 inmates. He labeled all 15 as "anti-christians." The Elmira, N.Y. reformatory system overshadowed all others, with nearly 31,000 inmates, including 15,694 Catholics (half) and 10,968 Protestants, 4,000 Jews, 325 refusing to answer, and 0 unbelievers.
In the East, over 64% of inmates are Roman Catholic. Throughout the national prison population, they average 50%. A national census of the general population found Catholics to be about 15% (and they count from the diaper up). Hardly 12% are old enough to commit a crime, and half of these are women. That leaves an adult Catholic population of 6% supplying 50% of the prison population. -
KNS .. I thought Catholics are good people ..
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I tell you why more catholics and chritians are criminals. After they commit a crime, they can just go to the church and confess and all will be forgiven. That's why.
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Haha... take a look at all those priests molesting young children. Iron prove that not all catholics are good people.Originally posted by Icemoon:KNS .. I thought Catholics are good people .. -
Because they are Catholics?Originally posted by kaister:Haha... take a look at all those priests molesting young children. Iron prove that not all catholics are good people. -
Nope, just saying that having a religion doesn't make you a better person. No correlation of their conduction to their faith.Originally posted by laurence82:Because they are Catholics?
Do take note that the figures came from US. Maybe Singapore shows a different picture?
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This I really agreeOriginally posted by kaister:Nope, just saying that having a religion doesn't make you a better person. No correlation of their conduction to their faith. -
Yeah yeah .. I hope so.Originally posted by kaister:Do take note that the figures came from US. Maybe Singapore shows a different picture?
Or it will destroy my good impression of Catholics.
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Topic ends with the universal aethist belief that God does not exist being correct...
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huh? are you sure? i didnt read above posts.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Topic ends with the universal aethist belief that God does not exist being correct... -
pretzel whole day looking for uOriginally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Topic ends with the universal aethist belief that God does not exist being correct...