Opinions of atheism
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Since when I am an atheist?Originally posted by Honeybunz:oh well.... cuz I think you're a cool atheist and we all enjoy discussing stuff with you. But it seems, especially here in EH, that all other atheists are otherwise.
You got see me post things against the existence of a god meh? -
What is the definition of a humanist har?Originally posted by Icemoon:Don't think he is atheist, most probably agnostic.
The correct label should be secular humanist. -
Originally posted by laurence82:What is the definition of a humanist har?
Humanism is a broad category of active ethical philosophies that affirm the dignity and worth of all people, based on the ability to determine right and wrong by appeal to universal human qualities—particularly rationalism. Humanism is a component of a variety of more specific philosophical systems, and is also incorporated into some religious schools of thought.
Humanism entails a commitment to the search for truth and morality through human means in support of human interests. In focusing on the capacity for self-determination, humanism rejects transcendental justifications, such as a dependence on faith, the supernatural, or divinely revealed texts. Humanists endorse universal morality based on the commonality of human nature, suggesting that solutions to our social and cultural problems cannot be parochial. -
Probably something like that
Remember what I said before? A lot of debate out there is mostly about the existence of a afterlife, I prefer people doing things for others right here, right now, where it really matter and current.
Not I am against faiths or supernatural, but for me its people, compassion, dignity as the article said, first, god, second. -
Do you know buddhism? There is no so-called god-creator in buddhist context. Buddha is merely one enlightened being, not a god. The mission in Buddhism is seeking enlightenment through reasonable logics and experience, unlike Christianity, which requires unquestionable faith. To me, atheism is also part of Buddhism.Originally posted by Insomic:I thought I read somewhere that you were a buddhist? So were you convinced by one of the people here to change?
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keke, promoting half of his religion here.Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:Do you know buddhism? There is no so-called god-creator in buddhist context. Buddha is merely one enlightened being, not a god. The mission in Buddhism is seeking enlightenment through reasonable logics and experience, unlike Christianity, which requires unquestionable faith. To me, atheism is also part of Buddhism. -
but by following buddhism, you are also allowing your life to be dictated by another's reasonings and are you then admitting that you are no better than davidche??Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:Do you know buddhism? There is no so-called god-creator in buddhist context. Buddha is merely one enlightened being, not a god. The mission in Buddhism is seeking enlightenment through reasonable logics and experience, unlike Christianity, which requires unquestionable faith. To me, atheism is also part of Buddhism. In my view, if anyone needs a religion to define his purpose in life, he or she is really pathetic just like you, davidche.
similarly, the same applies to you NUS, if you need to follow someone else's enlightened reasonings to have purpose in your life, you would be just as pathetic.
The next question becomes where do you think the source of our supposed unquestionable faith stems from? -
What makes you think i am just merely following someone's reasonings and path? That is just your own assumption.Originally posted by breytonhartge:similarly, the same applies to you NUS, if you need to follow someone else's enlightened reasonings to have purpose in your life, you would be just as pathetic. -
and a reasonable one according to what you post.Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:What makes you think i am just merely following someone's reasonings and path? That is just your own assumption. 
To be an atheist, is to follow anothers reasoning and path. Someone has already come before you to determine what atheism means. If you say that you consider buddhism part of atheism, then, you are also following that particular religions philosophy. Last time I checked, buddhism was still considered a religion.
As King Solomon wrote: "There is nothing new on the earth, vanity vanity, all is vanity." -
That where you are wrong. Different ppl have different definition of atheism. No one can set rules for what atheism is really about cos it is not a religion. And also, if you really understand the definition of religion, Buddhism is strictly more like philosophical teachings but we conventionally called it a religion.Originally posted by breytonhartge:and a reasonable one according to what you post.
To be an atheist, is to follow anothers reasoning and path. Someone has already come before you to determine what atheism means. If you say that you consider buddhism part of atheism, then, you are also following that particular religions philosophy. Last time I checked, buddhism was still considered a religion.
As King Solomon wrote: "There is nothing new on the earth, vanity vanity, all is vanity." -
I think what NUS is trying to say is that there is no dogma in atheism, and less dogmas in Buddhism than Christianity.Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:That where you are wrong. Different ppl have different definition of atheism. No one can set rules for what atheism is really about cos it is not a religion. And also, if you really understand the definition of religion, Buddhism is strictly more like philosophical teachings but we conventionally called it a religion.
No one likes to call his faith a religion, Christians call theirs a relationship, Buddhism and Taoism are more like philosophy. -
Yet again you turn the sword on yourself. You say buddhism is philosophical teachings. So you are allowing yourself to be led by another's philosophical slant. You are still not better than davidche.Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:That where you are wrong. Different ppl have different definition of atheism. No one can set rules for what atheism is really about cos it is not a religion. And also, if you really understand the definition of religion, Buddhism is strictly more like philosophical teachings but we conventionally called it a religion.
Also you have missed the whole point of my post, by claiming that you are an atheist, you are still not better than davidche for you have allowed another persons viewpoint to influence yours, the term athesim has to be defined by another's thoughts, so you still allow another persons thinking to influence yours. It happens to all of us everday. In your studies, in your daily life. In calling davidche pathetic, maybe you ought to turn the microscope on yourself? -
Still it is allowing another persons thinking to influence yours. So he is still on par with davidche.Originally posted by Icemoon:I think what NUS is trying to say is that there is no dogma in atheism, and less dogmas in Buddhism than Christianity.
No one likes to call his faith a religion, Christians call theirs a relationship, Buddhism and Taoism are more like philosophy. -
I think I might have to save you from certain disgrace in the hands of atheists.Originally posted by breytonhartge:Yet again you turn the sword on yourself. You say buddhism is philosophical teachings. So you are allowing yourself to be led by another's philosophical slant. You are still not better than davidche.
Also you have missed the whole point of my post, by claiming that you are an atheist, you are still not better than davidche for you have allowed another persons viewpoint to influence yours, the term athesim has to be defined by another's thoughts, so you still allow another persons thinking to influence yours. It happens to all of us everday. In your studies, in your daily life. In calling davidche pathetic, maybe you ought to turn the microscope on yourself?
Whereas atheists are influenced by one another, they are not obliged, like Christianity, to follow the central doctrines.
It is like science - you are influenced by your predecessors, but in no way are you obliged to follow them if you think your new theory is better.
Doctrines and dogma separate religion from philosophy and science. -
Nothing wrong with being influenced, who is not influenced in this world?Originally posted by breytonhartge:Still it is allowing another persons thinking to influence yours. So he is still on par with davidche.
We can argue Christianity influenced by Judaism and even Hellenistic philosophies. -
How many times must I repeat so that you the one who will understand? You are saying that the viewpoint of mine is influenced by others. But what makes you think that it is not my original viewpoint? Who ever says atheism has to be define by others? It is just your own fanciful thinking.Originally posted by breytonhartge:Yet again you turn the sword on yourself. You say buddhism is philosophical teachings. So you are allowing yourself to be led by another's philosophical slant. You are still not better than davidche.
Also you have missed the whole point of my post, by claiming that you are an atheist, you are still not better than davidche for you have allowed another persons viewpoint to influence yours, the term athesim has to be defined by another's thoughts, so you still allow another persons thinking to influence yours. It happens to all of us everday. In your studies, in your daily life. In calling davidche pathetic, maybe you ought to turn the microscope on yourself? -
Some Christians have reservations about that book. I remember vividly that NT2 is one of them.Originally posted by davidche:
Mr Rick Warren wrote a book about purpose driven life.
I was quite surprised to see NLC openly endorsing the book. -
I'm quite sure if ideas can be patented .. your application for one won't be granted.Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:How many times must I repeat so that you the one who will understand? You are saying that the viewpoint of mine is influenced by others. But what makes you think that it is not my original viewpoint? Who ever says atheism has to be define by others? It is just your own fanciful thinking. -
I so pissed off. Ppl who are not atheist just come in and sprout nonsense as if they truly understand us.
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As if you truly understand what Christianity is about. You've been sprouting for weeks now as if you knew everything about bible, all christians.Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:I so pissed off. Ppl who are not atheist just come in and sprout nonsense as if they truly understand us. -
Not directly linked to your question but just a different view on it. I feel atheists are not necessarily anti-Christians. and anti-Christians are not necessarily atheists.(think NUS wannabe).Originally posted by skyfoo:I'm interested to hear views and opinions of atheism as I've found many portraying atheism as a negative belief and atheists as a radical group out to defame religious groups. What's your take? -
Yes, u r right. I am atheist and just coincidentally also anti-christians.Originally posted by SumOne:Not directly linked to your question but just a different view on it. I feel atheists are not necessarily anti-Christians. and anti-Christians are not necessarily atheists.(think NUS wannabe).
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I thought you got say you don't believe in God's existence? Maybe I remember wrongly..hehheOriginally posted by laurence82:Since when I am an atheist?
You got see me post things against the existence of a god meh?
Though you're not a Christian, you at least know how to respect this forum, unlike some strangers here (I dun want to name names). -
Just like you lor.... You are not a Christian and you come in and sprout nonsense as if you truly understand Christians.Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:I so pissed off. Ppl who are not atheist just come in and sprout nonsense as if they truly understand us. -
it's making me laugh when davidche is implying that atheists have no life coz we dun believe in god, thus not living for god or with god. life can be defined differently individually and thus the purpose of life. i dun think i need to go into depth. if u are insistence that living for/with god is the only purpose of life, den good luck for u.