Go to church every week
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If god requires you to go church every week just to show your devotedness and whatnot
That doesn't make him all-powerful because he can't feel how devoted you are while outside church
If he knows and still requires you to go to Church, He is a shallow god because he feels insecure -
There was never such a "requirement".Originally posted by Agenda:If god requires you to go church every week just to show your devotedness and whatnot
That doesn't make him all-powerful because he can't feel how devoted you are while outside church
If he knows and still requires you to go to Church, He is a shallow god because he feels insecure
The only thing more or less compulsory is the participation of the sacrament, the Eucharist.
You go to church because it is good for you - to grow in His Word, to mingle with (hopefully) like-minded people, and to participate in a ministry (do something for God). -
is e pastor who wan u 2 go 2 church.. so he/she can collect ur tithe...
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your reply is off.Originally posted by tt3:is e pastor who wan u 2 go 2 church.. so he/she can collect ur tithe...
The keyword is "every week".
You don't pay tithe every week. -
But the amount you get psycho into giving is like giving every weekOriginally posted by Icemoon:your reply is off.
The keyword is "every week".
You don't pay tithe every week.
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He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. Micah 6:8
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Another assumption.Originally posted by Agenda:But the amount you get psycho into giving is like giving every week -
Originally posted by breytonhartge:
Habbakuk has an even shorter summary.
He has showed you, O man, what is good. [b]And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. Micah 6:8[/b] -
It's a duty of every Christian.
It's just like a student having to go to school every day, an employee having to report work every day or a husband/wife having to go home for dinner with the spouse.
It's a responsibility. It's an obligation.
There have been Christians who give excuses and would say this "I read bible and I worship God from my heart. Thus, I don't need to be physically present in Church"
Imagine if we put these words in another context. Imagine a married person says this "I wear my wedding ring every day and I love my wife from the bottom of my heart. Thus, I don't need to be there physically to give her emotional support."
Or a student saying this "I know study is important. I go through the textbooks every day. Thus, I don't need to go to school everyday. -
read this quote:Originally posted by Honeybunz:It's a duty of every Christian.
It's just like a student having to go to school every day, an employee having to report work every day or a husband/wife having to go home for dinner with the spouse.
It's a responsibility. It's an obligation.
There have been Christians who give excuses and would say this "I read bible and I worship God from my heart. Thus, I don't need to be physically present in Church"
Imagine if we put these words in another context. Imagine a married person says this "I wear my wedding ring every day and I love my wife from the bottom of my heart. Thus, I don't need to be there physically to give her emotional support."
Or a student saying this "I know study is important. I go through the textbooks every day. Thus, I don't need to go to school everyday.The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, then walk out the door and deny him by their lifestyle.
That is...what an unbelieving world simply finds...unbelievable. -
your analogies have all fallen short of reality.Originally posted by Honeybunz:It's a duty of every Christian.
It's just like a student having to go to school every day, an employee having to report work every day or a husband/wife having to go home for dinner with the spouse.
It's a responsibility. It's an obligation.
There have been Christians who give excuses and would say this "I read bible and I worship God from my heart. Thus, I don't need to be physically present in Church"
Imagine if we put these words in another context. Imagine a married person says this "I wear my wedding ring every day and I love my wife from the bottom of my heart. Thus, I don't need to be there physically to give her emotional support."
Or a student saying this "I know study is important. I go through the textbooks every day. Thus, I don't need to go to school everyday.
1. The marriage analogy. Christians are married to Christ. So your obligation and responsibility is towards Christ.
2. School is made compulsory by the government (10 years?). However there is such a thing called home schooling and private O levels candidates.
The reality is that a church or school provides you with the environment to grow. Admittedly it is very hard to grow alone, reading and studying alone. You will not have the necessary skills like group work, presentations etc. -
I think Honeybunz is right, she put it across clearly that it's a duty.Originally posted by Icemoon:
When it's a duty, there are obligations at certain point definitely.
When going to church is no longer a duty, when it becomes every christian's desire to be there, for a sole purpose.
It will be a beautiful sight to witness. -
That's why it is important that we continue to go to Church at least once a week to remind ourselves and reinforce our Christian identity.Originally posted by Icemoon:read this quote:
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The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, then walk out the door and deny him by their lifestyle.
That is...what an unbelieving world simply finds...unbelievable. -
shouldn't it be a desire and not a duty?Originally posted by M©+square:I think Honeybunz is right, she put it across clearly that it's a duty.
When it's a duty, there are obligations at certain point definitely.
When going to church is no longer a duty, when it becomes every christian's desire to be there, for a sole purpose.
It will be a beautiful sight to witness.
when did Christianity become so phariseeic? -
it will only work for the 2 hours.Originally posted by Honeybunz:That's why it is important that we continue to go to Church at least once a week to remind ourselves and reinforce our Christian identity.
no wait .. it won't even work for the 2 hours. Look at how people anyhow park their cars outside. -
I couldn't agree with you more.Originally posted by Honeybunz:That's why it is important that we continue to go to Church at least once a week to remind ourselves and reinforce our Christian identity.
To reinforce the religious identity.
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If I'm not wrong, in the past, people went to church to hear the word of God though the bible.
Copies of the bible were not easily accessible. Even if they were, they would be useless as people were generally illiterate. Hence, people went to church to hear the priests read the bible and teach.
I think that's how this tradition started. -
Tell me, is it a desire you see in this present age?Originally posted by Icemoon:shouldn't it be a desire and not a duty?
when did Christianity become so phariseeic?
Prove me wrong.... show me a church. -
charismatic churches lor.Originally posted by M©+square:Tell me, is it a desire you see in this present age?
Prove me wrong.... show me a church.
I am serious .. those youngsters looking forward to service every week one. -
erm .. you go church to receive the sacrament also.Originally posted by samadhi_fire:If I'm not wrong, in the past, people went to church to hear the word of God though the bible.
Copies of the bible were not easily accessible. Even if they were, they would be useless as people were generally illiterate. Hence, people went to church to hear the priests read the bible and teach.
I think that's how this tradition started. -
hmmm...Originally posted by Honeybunz:That's why it is important that we continue to go to Church at least once a week to remind ourselves and reinforce our Christian identity.
I thought it should be the other way round?
Its because we know we belong to Christ (ie. Christian) that we as christian go to Church? so that we can encourage our fellow brothers&Sisters (and also be encouraged as well)?
anyway... nevermind, not important, I only know I go to church because I want to go to church and I enjoy going to church..
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I give them the benefit of doubt that they are sincere people.Originally posted by Icemoon:charismatic churches lor.
I am serious .. those youngsters looking forward to service every week one.
When you are able to tell me, 'there's something which i don't understand about these youngsters attending this church. I just feel that they are different from the rest(of the duty-going church goers), and they really make me feel...that they are really enjoy their beliefs'.
Then.....i know it's beyond your statement above liao. -
in case some guys dont get it, church is not a building. It is the gathering of believers.
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Can a gathering of believers administer and receive the sacrament?Originally posted by ventin:in case some guys dont get it, church is not a building. It is the gathering of believers.
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Looking at Tradition and formality wise?Originally posted by Icemoon:Can a gathering of believers administer and receive the sacrament?