Omnipotent?
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i read bout this in xiaxue blog.
its about god being omnipotent and i find it a very good question.
Can God create a rock so huge that he cant even be able to lift it himself?
If God can create the rock and he cant lift it, he isnt really that omnipotent is he? And if God cant create the rock, he isnt really that omnopotent is he?
wad say you?
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why bother about whjat a dumb beach says. and a farking SPG too.
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1) theres no rock that he cant lift..Originally posted by popmynutsy:i read bout this in xiaxue blog.
its about god being omnipotent and i find it a very good question.
Can God create a rock so huge that he cant even be able to lift it himself?
If God can create the rock and he cant lift it, he isnt really that omnipotent is he? And if God cant create the rock, he isnt really that omnopotent is he?
wad say you?
2)refer to answer for 1st question. -
Ask yourself back this question.Originally posted by popmynutsy:i read bout this in xiaxue blog.
its about god being omnipotent and i find it a very good question.
Can God create a rock so huge that he cant even be able to lift it himself?
If God can create the rock and he cant lift it, he isnt really that omnipotent is he? And if God cant create the rock, he isnt really that omnopotent is he?
wad say you?
"God you are the creator right, then i am sure creation cannot outdo creator right?"
Does that answer your question?
Omnipotent = All Powerful
Omnipresense = All Present
Omniscience = All Knowing
So nothing can be greater than God right? -
if 'creation cannot outdo creator', then god can't create something that can outdo him, and that means he's not all powerful. and if it can outdo him, he's not all the powerful either.Originally posted by babyys:Ask yourself back this question.
"God you are the creator right, then i am sure creation cannot outdo creator right?"
Does that answer your question?
Omnipotent = All Powerful
Omnipresense = All Present
Omniscience = All Knowing
So nothing can be greater than God right?
this paradox has actually been in discussion for ages, not sure if anyone reached a logical and satisfying conclusion yet (if that's possible), but hey, that's the fun in paradoxes. -
I like paradoxesOriginally posted by JerzZzzZ:if 'creation cannot outdo creator', then god can't create something that can outdo him, and that means he's not all powerful. and if it can outdo him, he's not all the powerful either.
this paradox has actually been in discussion for ages, not sure if anyone reached a logical and satisfying conclusion yet (if that's possible), but hey, that's the fun in paradoxes.
Like for example, the time machine thingie where you shoot your own grandpa
Btw, i like your reply to this topic issue
Its a more level headed approach -
yup, they're fun. the omnipotent paradox is actually one of my fave.Originally posted by laurence82:I like paradoxes
Like for example, the time machine thingie where you shoot your own grandpa 
wikipedia has a long list of paradoxes too, worth a read! interesting stuff~ -
I too respect this kinda queries cause at least its constructive & not personal!Originally posted by laurence82:I like paradoxes
Like for example, the time machine thingie where you shoot your own grandpa
Btw, i like your reply to this topic issue
Its a more level headed approach -
Wait let me go do some homework 1st then i reply u hahahah.....Originally posted by JerzZzzZ:yup, they're fun. the omnipotent paradox is actually one of my fave. wikipedia has a long list of paradoxes too, worth a read! interesting stuff~ -
God is all wise. He wont create a rock that he cant lift Himself bcos He can lift all rocks no matter the size. He wont contradict Himself bcos He isnt stupid. He is all knowing or omniscient.Originally posted by popmynutsy:i read bout this in xiaxue blog.
its about god being omnipotent and i find it a very good question.
Can God create a rock so huge that he cant even be able to lift it himself?
If God can create the rock and he cant lift it, he isnt really that omnipotent is he? And if God cant create the rock, he isnt really that omnopotent is he?
wad say you? -
Why must God create something to outdo Himself? I dont see the point. Would u as God create something to outdo yourself? Stupid isnt it? But God is wise & all knowing.Originally posted by JerzZzzZ:if 'creation cannot outdo creator', then god can't create something that can outdo him, and that means he's not all powerful. and if it can outdo him, he's not all the powerful either.
this paradox has actually been in discussion for ages, not sure if anyone reached a logical and satisfying conclusion yet (if that's possible), but hey, that's the fun in paradoxes. -
The question isn't whether he will or not, but rather, whether he can or not. And, this omnipotent paradox may actually apply to any fictional omnipotent figure, who isn't omniscient. Then again, that will make this the wrong forum to post in, so... -shrugs-Originally posted by The Elder:Why must God create something to outdo Himself? I dont see the point. Would u as God create something to outdo yourself? Stupid isnt it? But God is wise & all knowing.
Paradox remains.
But to respect your religion, yea, I doubt God will create something that surpasses Him. -
Originally posted by babyys:Wait let me go do some homework 1st then i reply u hahahah.....
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it's not that .. it's the Caveat. the question is whether he can create something more powerful than God.Originally posted by The Elder:God is all wise. He wont create a rock that he cant lift Himself bcos He can lift all rocks no matter the size. He wont contradict Himself bcos He isnt stupid. He is all knowing or omniscient.
in the event that God did, it means that now the rock would be more powerful
in the event that he didn't, it means that his powers are imited
it's like choosing the devil or the deep blue sea
Paradox ..... haizz -
The question is meaningful in the sense tat it question whether is there anything such as true omnipotency. From the example of the rock, it seems tat true omnipotency may be logically flawed and impossible.
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Originally posted by JerzZzzZ:
wad a dumb.........read the quote again. you r answering the question your self!!!
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if 'creation cannot outdo creator', then god can't create something that can outdo him,
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creation cant outdo the creator.
theres nothing that can outdo him. so theres nothing to create to outdo him.
theres nothing to be created to outdo him.
wa lau. such a dumb question, discussed for ages has actually been solved by a sec student....what a joke. -
creation cant outdo the creator
I think tat is a pretty bad assumption. Men create robots tat outdo men in terms of strength, speed and accuracy etc. We do create things tat become better than the creator (us) -
i thought of that b4.
God to man is diff from man to created.
Anyway, to reply you, God is the highest, so theres definitely nothing which can outdo him. -
I view Man himself as the highest being, surpassed any other beings up there. Only Man can reach the same kind of enlightenment as the Buddha.Originally posted by davidche:i thought of that b4.
God to man is diff from man to created.
Anyway, to reply you, God is the highest, so theres definitely nothing which can outdo him.
Pathetic ones can join Davidche. -
hehe, suddenly off topic.......attention seeker. I dont really care wad you believe in. but like you always say, you can say wadever you like.........
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I wonder if Buddha is right in front of your face now, wat would he say to you?Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:I view Man himself as the highest being, surpassed any other beings up there. Only Man can reach the same kind of enlightenment as the Buddha.
Pathetic ones can join Davidche.
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more like i need a PANADOL after reading this hehehehe......Originally posted by ben1xy:it's not that .. it's the Caveat. the question is whether he can create something more powerful than God.
in the event that God did, it means that now the rock would be more powerful
in the event that he didn't, it means that his powers are imited
it's like choosing the devil or the deep blue sea
Paradox ..... haizz
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i'll be patient with a secondary school kid who just insulted me.Originally posted by davidche:wad a dumb.........read the quote again. you r answering the question your self!!!
creation cant outdo the creator.
theres nothing that can outdo him. so theres nothing to create to outdo him.
theres nothing to be created to outdo him.
wa lau. such a dumb question, discussed for ages has actually been solved by a sec student....what a joke.
the question is actually asking if the creator can create something that can outdo him. alright, so according to you, there's nothing to be created to outdo him. so, according to you, that means he can't. okay cool, we got your story complete. yay. -
i got the answer ready. it comes from mi heart. im just trying to prove god is wrong.
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sry for the 'dumb' word.Originally posted by JerzZzzZ:i'll be patient with a secondary school kid who just insulted me.
the question is actually asking if the creator can create something that can outdo him. alright, so according to you, there's nothing to be created to outdo him. so, according to you, that means he can't. okay cool, we got your story complete. yay.
but to let you uinderstand, im going to tell a stupid story.
After the end of year exam, i got 100 in class. so im the highest. did somebody get 101??
We shldnt be using our definite minds to define the indefinite God.