Was adam made to be perfect?
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Well, thx to Mc square, im having this problem.
So if adam is perfect, then y did he sin?? -
oh i think i hv the ans!! lol, frm the same book again!
erm,lets see......
Adam and Eve did not have sinful natures as we had. So the temptation of sin must come from outside. The bible describes this source as the serpeant(gen3:1) used by the devil to aliniate man from God.
Why did God not prevent evil from entering the universe since He knew in adv wad wld happen? Why did he not make man incapable of sinning? God could have done so but we wld not have the image of God or be humans with freedom if God had done so.
so its all about sinful nature. Sin was outside them. They chose. -
if i not wrong. adam was perfect. so was eve. but eve was tricked by satan. but the problem is god created the universe without sin. then how did satan haf sin in his mind? its like u wouldnt speak spanish if u dint noe spanish rite?
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The fact is.
Adam was created perfect in the eyes of God.
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well good question.Originally posted by popmynutsy:if i not wrong. adam was perfect. so was eve. but eve was tricked by satan. but the problem is god created the universe without sin. then how did satan haf sin in his mind? its like u wouldnt speak spanish if u dint noe spanish rite?
God made adam and eve with NO sinful nature but has the ability to choose. So they can choose, but they must have 2 things to choose between rite? So God created sin.
So adam and eve had two things to choose between. Sin and not to sin under the circumstance that they have no sinful nature. They chose sin.
God created sin. Sin of course isnt a good thing. but bare in mind that letting adam and eve have the ability to choose(in other words to sin) is good.
y is it good? look up =.=
it is good as God has said. remember that God said good, not perfect. -
That's why the author of Genesis very clever .. purposely omit the creation of angels.Originally posted by popmynutsy:if i not wrong. adam was perfect. so was eve. but eve was tricked by satan. but the problem is god created the universe without sin. then how did satan haf sin in his mind? its like u wouldnt speak spanish if u dint noe spanish rite?
Maybe that creation not very good? -
So sin is not from satan but from god as what david says?
Tsk tsk
And is god really bored up high in heaven? -
So i reckon you've made up your mind?Originally posted by davidche:well good question.
God made adam and eve with NO sinful nature but has the ability to choose. So they can choose, but they must have 2 things to choose between rite? So God created sin.
So adam and eve had two things to choose between. Sin and not to sin under the circumstance that they have no sinful nature. They chose sin.
God created sin. Sin of course isnt a good thing. but bare in mind that letting adam and eve have the ability to choose(in other words to sin) is good.
y is it good? look up =.=
it is good as God has said. remember that God said good, not perfect.
God created SIN?
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is there any other way to explain? God created everything rite?Originally posted by M©+square:So i reckon you've made up your mind?
God created SIN?
lol, thanks to you again, another question pops out. sigh......guys pls help.im going to sleep...... -
There are MANY theories!!!!Originally posted by davidche:is there any other way to explain? God created everything rite?
lol, thanks to you again, another question pops out. sigh......guys pls help.im going to sleep......
You better go and read up first before setting yourself up as a Christian who have temporary theological stand.
It doesn't help in a long run. -
I suspect god upset over the rebellion of his angels.Originally posted by laurence82:So sin is not from satan but from god as what david says?
Tsk tsk
And is god really bored up high in heaven? -
Once again .. read the right books like Systematic Theology.Originally posted by M©+square:There are MANY theories!!!!
You better go and read up first before setting yourself up as a Christian who have temporary theological stand.
It doesn't help in a long run. -
So the rebellion of angels happened before he created Adam?Originally posted by Icemoon:I suspect god upset over the rebellion of his angels.
Who else besides Satan rebelled? -
If God created sin, then did God create Satan, demons and devils?Originally posted by davidche:well good question.
God made adam and eve with NO sinful nature but has the ability to choose. So they can choose, but they must have 2 things to choose between rite? So God created sin.
So adam and eve had two things to choose between. Sin and not to sin under the circumstance that they have no sinful nature. They chose sin.
God created sin. Sin of course isnt a good thing. but bare in mind that letting adam and eve have the ability to choose(in other words to sin) is good.
y is it good? look up =.=
it is good as God has said. remember that God said good, not perfect.
So everything good and bad is created by God?
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maybe i can ask rev stephen tang. He claims that he has studied alot about christianity.
and hey hey, watch it. -
Originally posted by nightzip:If God created sin, then did God create Satan, demons and devils?
So everything good and bad is created by God?
It is a good thing to have control of your words and tongues.
I'm glad i didn't land myself in troubles. -
i think so, or do they exist by themselves??? the more i think of it the more i feel that my brains r so limited.mc2 can help? your name looks like a sciencist.
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Always getting answers from books and people...Originally posted by davidche:maybe i can ask rev stephen tang. He claims that he has studied alot about christianity.
and hey hey, watch it.
Sad case.
If only you know how much God's word can reveal to you. -
I dunno.Originally posted by laurence82:So the rebellion of angels happened before he created Adam?
Who else besides Satan rebelled?
But if you think the punishment for Adam, Eve and the poor serpent was too harsh .. then maybe god was trying to fix the rebels before he entered the garden .. so god was emotional when he melted out the punishment.
maybe the rebels used sheng1 dong1 ji1 xi1 strategy .. so while god was away a minon possessed a serpent and tempted Eve. So when god came back .. too late! -
i dont know, but to me, its perfectly alright for God to create both sides of the equation.
Except that most christians do not subscribe to it, due to perhaps the preachers' stand on this?
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I suggest you get in deep into your Bible and read from Cover to Cover.Originally posted by davidche:i think so, or do they exist by themselves??? the more i think of it the more i feel that my brains r so limited.mc2 can help? your name looks like a sciencist.
If Christians adopt to the belief that God created Demons and devils.
They are screwed. And Christianity is screwed big time. -
Sorry .. is there a stephen tang?Originally posted by davidche:maybe i can ask rev stephen tang. He claims that he has studied alot about christianity.
and hey hey, watch it.
I think you don't take him seriously .. 'cos you even got his name wrong. -
Originally posted by Icemoon:Sorry .. is there a stephen tang?
I think you don't take him seriously .. 'cos you even got his name wrong.
Got la....from his own church lor. -
huh?? And I thought God is omni-present....everywhere and all knowing?Originally posted by Icemoon:I dunno.
But if you think the punishment for Adam, Eve and the poor serpent was too harsh .. then maybe god was trying to fix the rebels before he entered the garden .. so god was emotional when he melted out the punishment.
maybe the rebels used sheng1 dong1 ji1 xi1 strategy .. so while god was away a minon possessed a serpent and tempted Eve. So when god came back .. too late!
So God also have emotions? as in he gets angry, sad, happy, etc...so when you speak to him in his good mood he address your problem better, and if he bad mood, he wont listen to your prayers? -
Haha .. the bible is a book also right?Originally posted by M©+square:Always getting answers from books and people...
Sad case.
If only you know how much God's word can reveal to you.
I feel one should adopt the attitude of a good student - fan3 fu4 si1 kao3.
sorry .. what is the best english translation for si1 kao3? I think the chinese word explains very well.