Either that, or he is simply making a statement which you must consider to be true or not, rather than simply dismissing it.Originally posted by RaTtY8l:i think u jus proof the threadstarter's points
are you talking about city harvest?Originally posted by Scape_Goat_Token:firstly, im not an anti-christ. i do believe in the bible n stuff. (to some extent). i was grown in a christian primary school. i sang all those songs every mornin for like 6 years in primary school. i did believe, i did pray till recently. i have attended church. first few times, i enjoyed it. after sometime, i found something really "wrong" about the place. as though i dun belong there. so i stopped going. after a few times, i went back on several occasions and stopped and went again...but i still felt something wrong..
and some background info. my parents juz recently became christians. my mum was lik antichrist sometime bac, and very "freethinker". so now, suddenly they r like possessed ppeople. they never fail to go church. everything that is related to church, they will join. for example, my mum juz joined the choir, and they keep going for those care group or whatever group they call it. and they r soooo obssessed to the extent that they even go for bible class n stuff...WHAT is this?????
they start talkin weirdly, like "we're only worried about your salvation??". let me first state wad annoys me the most. it is when christian talks as though their religion is the NUMBER 1 or smth. like it's the truth, it's the definite. im sure mani of the nonbelievers get annoyed by their behaviour. out of their normal conversation, they will pop a "god" in once in awhile. even muslims or pple of other religion dun realli mention their god out loud. they just quietly worship their god. for buddist or whatever, you dun know until they say. but if someone starts god here god there, u obviously know his a christian...
and one thing, christians have this arrogant aura. they pretend to be humble. they talk in another tone to nonbelievers, and worst, they try to convert everyone they see. they r lik tryin to build an army of pple. or to promote their church or smth. very very weird, and of cox, very annoying...
of cox, im not talking about every christian out there. basically i know alot christians. my entire family and their frens r christians. even my brother has been infected. all of them started to give me that "go away you outcast"-look. or "either u believe or go away..". they feel as though nonchristians r inferior or something.
when i first went to church. pple were very friendly. infact over friendly. they r those kind that take e initiative n stuff to talk to u. it was quite fun, n i dun deny that they r quite alot chiobus around. and sometimes i go on sunday juz to for this reason. i min it's sunday and everyone just dolls themselves up and go there to "worship"...., how mani pple r realli serious about worshipping god?
now, i juz give an excuse like. " ughh, im lazy to wake up on sunday morning". the truth is, i believe, but i dun wan to be a christian...
Not very likely 'cos threadstarter used 'caregroup'.Originally posted by zer0kool:are you talking about city harvest?
CHC calls it cell groupOriginally posted by Icemoon:Not very likely 'cos threadstarter used 'caregroup'.
lol, now listen carefully, i am able to answer ALL your queries.U can answer all queries ? When is the exact day of judgement according to our calendar ? Number 1 religion ? In terms of wat ? No 1 in splitting and forming different schools of thought ? It is the "Only way and truth" and the only thing u can use as support is the bible. Muslim say he is the true way and christian is false, buddist say it is the true way, Jews say they r the true way, and they all have their scripture to prove it. So since scripture is such an important evidence according to davidche, then there r many much more scriptures tat states christianity is not the only truth and therefore we can conclude it is not true.
Christianity is the number one religion. It is the only truth the only way and life. The bible has clearly stated this(you can ask me to quote the passages if you need)
Originally posted by M©+square:Wooohoo!!!! The challenger comes!
haha.. my one better. 4 of em suddenly surrounded me in class and demand to know why i dont want to join some church. and even asked me whether its becuz being a christian cannot watch porn! really felt like beating em up, still do now.Originally posted by zer0kool:are you talking about city harvest?
Their zeal turns me off. I was a member 8 years odd there, decided to stop going cos of the people. But i get where you're coming from, i am a christian too and there was this guy in my class in sec 4 he kept ranting on and on about it, like almost every conversation for a year. So you can imagine how it got on my nerves, i mean sure they have good intentions, but i guess there's a good lot out of christians out there that need refinement in techinique of spreading the word, so it makes the concept more palatable
I guess the tread starter's referring to people like that? The one that wants to 'convert' people, where ironically, make them put off about accept christ?
i oso happy.Originally posted by vince69:
why you like very happy like that...
i foresee somebody's theological knowledge is going to be shredded to piecesOriginally posted by vince69:
why you like very happy like that...
Its you who dont understand anything on christ. He came to teach people the way the light and the truth.Originally posted by SocialOutcast:Jesus claims to be the truth, the way and the life. No one comes to the Father (the only end) except him alone (the only means).
I'm sorry if any Christians forced the gospel on anyone. They should have preached in love. However, according to Jesus, he did not come to condemn, but to save (which you reject), but whoever does not believe is already condemned. Are you trying to portray Jesus as a lovey dovey personality? He is not. He is a just ruler just as he is a loving God.
don't know leh, I sometime also kenna approached by people before... but then a bit different, what I got was non christian friends asking me about christianity...Originally posted by Ito_^:haha.. my one better. 4 of em suddenly surrounded me in class and demand to know why i dont want to join some church. and even asked me whether its becuz being a christian cannot watch porn! really felt like beating em up, still do now.
u told this story b4Originally posted by Ito_^:haha.. my one better. 4 of em suddenly surrounded me in class and demand to know why i dont want to join some church. and even asked me whether its becuz being a christian cannot watch porn! really felt like beating em up, still do now.
nvermind la. i posted it ages ago so can repeat telecast. besides, its an unforgettable event to me.Originally posted by laurence82:u told this story b4
its an unforgettable one to me to, thats why I remember your storyOriginally posted by Ito_^:nvermind la. i posted it ages ago so can repeat telecast. besides, its an unforgettable event to me.
okOriginally posted by laurence82:its an unforgettable one to me to, thats why I remember your story
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It depends on what TYPE of christians you faced.Originally posted by digicharat:if christians come and preach to me, and i immediately tell them im a buddhist. will they leave me alone?
Do not assume you will strike 4D in the Singapore Pools this way, rather KNOW you have struck 4D or better... TOTO in your heart when you accepted HIM into your heart.Originally posted by tt3:hw come i go church still nv tio 4D ah??
its ok to be annoyed with christians for all christians are not perfect. Just dont be bitter about it in the longer term and also bitter with God about it.....we cannot get close to God in our anger and bitterness.Originally posted by Scape_Goat_Token:firstly, im not an anti-christ. i do believe in the bible n stuff. (to some extent). i was grown in a christian primary school. i sang all those songs every mornin for like 6 years in primary school. i did believe, i did pray till recently. i have attended church. first few times, i enjoyed it. after sometime, i found something really "wrong" about the place. as though i dun belong there. so i stopped going. after a few times, i went back on several occasions and stopped and went again...but i still felt something wrong..
and some background info. my parents juz recently became christians. my mum was lik antichrist sometime bac, and very "freethinker". so now, suddenly they r like possessed ppeople. they never fail to go church. everything that is related to church, they will join. for example, my mum juz joined the choir, and they keep going for those care group or whatever group they call it. and they r soooo obssessed to the extent that they even go for bible class n stuff...WHAT is this?????
they start talkin weirdly, like "we're only worried about your salvation??". let me first state wad annoys me the most. it is when christian talks as though their religion is the NUMBER 1 or smth. like it's the truth, it's the definite. im sure mani of the nonbelievers get annoyed by their behaviour. out of their normal conversation, they will pop a "god" in once in awhile. even muslims or pple of other religion dun realli mention their god out loud. they just quietly worship their god. for buddist or whatever, you dun know until they say. but if someone starts god here god there, u obviously know his a christian...
and one thing, christians have this arrogant aura. they pretend to be humble. they talk in another tone to nonbelievers, and worst, they try to convert everyone they see. they r lik tryin to build an army of pple. or to promote their church or smth. very very weird, and of cox, very annoying...
of cox, im not talking about every christian out there. basically i know alot christians. my entire family and their frens r christians. even my brother has been infected. all of them started to give me that "go away you outcast"-look. or "either u believe or go away..". they feel as though nonchristians r inferior or something.
when i first went to church. pple were very friendly. infact over friendly. they r those kind that take e initiative n stuff to talk to u. it was quite fun, n i dun deny that they r quite alot chiobus around. and sometimes i go on sunday juz to for this reason. i min it's sunday and everyone just dolls themselves up and go there to "worship"...., how mani pple r realli serious about worshipping god?
now, i juz give an excuse like. " ughh, im lazy to wake up on sunday morning". the truth is, i believe, but i dun wan to be a christian...