Do you think King David is saved?
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He committed so many evil deeds ..
If he can be saved .. then there is hope for people who don't believe in Jesus. -
think before u speak.
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If I do not think .. I would have been baptized long ago liao.Originally posted by NT2:think before u speak.
Go and think about it.
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David many many sins, first he peek at pple when they bath, after tat he commit adultery.
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He was also a murderer.Originally posted by laoda99:David many many sins, first he peek at pple when they bath, after tat he commit adultery.
Tsk tsk.
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Women the root of evil. Why Basheba look so beautiful?Originally posted by Icemoon:He was also a murderer. -
Without Basheba .. there would be no Solomon?Originally posted by laoda99:Women the root of evil. Why Basheba look so beautiful? -
Hmmm...so it is all PREDESTINED?Originally posted by Icemoon:Without Basheba .. there would be no Solomon?
God ordain evil? -
Isnt King Solomon the wisest king in Jewish history and King David the one who fought off Goliath?
Whats this about saving,coz I thought all along Christians regard Jews as unsaved ones? -
Nope .. God ordained beauty and intelligence.Originally posted by laoda99:Hmmm...so it is all PREDESTINED?
God ordain evil?
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Huh? Jews are the people of God in biblical times what...don't tell me everyone who lived before Christ are all condemned.
King David is saved. He has faith in God, no? He lived pre-Christ....of course you can't expect him to believe in Jesus. He doesn't know the Messiah will be Jesus.
Why you brought in 'he did many evil deeds' is beyond me. No one is good except God alone! -
So why do we need Jesus today?Originally posted by SocialOutcast:Huh? Jews are the people of God in biblical times what...don't tell me everyone who lived before Christ are all condemned.
King David is saved. He has faith in God, no? He lived pre-Christ....of course you can't expect him to believe in Jesus. He doesn't know the Messiah will be Jesus.
Why you brought in 'he did many evil deeds' is beyond me. No one is good except God alone! -
your mind is the root of this evil.Originally posted by laoda99:Women the root of evil. Why Basheba look so beautiful? -
Maybe you should ask, 'how many Isrealites do you think are not saved?'
It's easier to see in context of why God sent His son. -
Good point!Originally posted by M©+square:Maybe you should ask, 'how many Isrealites do you think are not saved?'
It's easier to see in context of why God sent His son.
But then the mission to save the Jews turn out to be a failure.
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Quite the same kind of question perhaps that you are asking...as below found from rbc.
i bought the idea that people (Old, New Testament or now) are saved by the same Way - Faith in God.
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Since Old Testament people lived long before Christ's coming, how could they be saved?
People have always been saved by their faith in God rather than by merit earned through good works ( Hebrews 11:6 ).
The Bible is clear that Abraham, father of the Jewish people, was saved by faith. The Scriptures say, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness" ( Romans 4:3 ). Although Abraham didn't know the exact way that God would one day provide a Savior, he made a profound statement about God's ability to provide a substitute as he prepared to sacrifice his son Isaac on Mount Moriah ( Genesis 22:8 ).
The principle of salvation by faith continued under the Mosaic law. Because no one could perfectly satisfy the law's demands, the law brought awareness of human sin and helplessness ( Romans 3:9-23; 7:7-14 ; Galatians 3:19-25 ). Its provisions for animal sacrifice were a further revelation of the seriousness and ugliness of sin. But the provision for sacrifice also pointed forward to Calvary and God's provision of grace. David, who lived under the law 1,000 years before Christ, clearly knew the power of God's grace, experiencing forgiveness and salvation through faith ( Psalm 32:1-5 ; Romans 4:6-8 ).
Faith in God always involved confidence that God would somehow provide for the forgiveness of sins. Faith always anticipated the coming of Christ and His sacrifice on our behalf. Old Testament believers offered sacrifices as an expression of their faith. By themselves, sacrificial offerings could never take away sin. When they were offered in faith, however, God accepted them because they pointed to Jesus Christ, the one sacrifice worthy to atone for all the sins of the world ( Hebrews 10:1-17 ). -
King David believes in Jesus. That's why he can be saved. No hope for ppl who dont believe in the salvation by Jesus thru His precious blood.Originally posted by Icemoon:He committed so many evil deeds ..
If he can be saved .. then there is hope for people who don't believe in Jesus. -
Amen.Originally posted by NT2:think before u speak. -
interesting.
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I think they knew prophetically that God's Son was coming to save the world thru His sacrifice. God asked Abraham to look at the sky to see the gospel story in the stars. God spoke to Moses thru a veil regarding His Son in the Law. The lamb & bull sacrifice speak of the final sacrifice on the Cross by God's Son, the perfect sacrifice. David spoke prophetically abt God's Son thru His Psalms. The patriarchs & prophets were all saved by faith in the Son, tho in the future.Originally posted by klydeer:Quite the same kind of question perhaps that you are asking...as below found from rbc.
i bought the idea that people (Old, New Testament or now) are saved by the same Way - Faith in God.
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Since Old Testament people lived long before Christ's coming, how could they be saved?
People have always been saved by their faith in God rather than by merit earned through good works ( Hebrews 11:6 ).
The Bible is clear that Abraham, father of the Jewish people, was saved by faith. The Scriptures say, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness" ( Romans 4:3 ). Although Abraham didn't know the exact way that God would one day provide a Savior, he made a profound statement about God's ability to provide a substitute as he prepared to sacrifice his son Isaac on Mount Moriah ( Genesis 22:8 ).
The principle of salvation by faith continued under the Mosaic law. Because no one could perfectly satisfy the law's demands, the law brought awareness of human sin and helplessness ( Romans 3:9-23; 7:7-14 ; Galatians 3:19-25 ). Its provisions for animal sacrifice were a further revelation of the seriousness and ugliness of sin. But the provision for sacrifice also pointed forward to Calvary and God's provision of grace. David, who lived under the law 1,000 years before Christ, clearly knew the power of God's grace, experiencing forgiveness and salvation through faith ( Psalm 32:1-5 ; Romans 4:6-8 ).
Faith in God always involved confidence that God would somehow provide for the forgiveness of sins. Faith always anticipated the coming of Christ and His sacrifice on our behalf. Old Testament believers offered sacrifices as an expression of their faith. By themselves, sacrificial offerings could never take away sin. When they were offered in faith, however, God accepted them because they pointed to Jesus Christ, the one sacrifice worthy to atone for all the sins of the world ( Hebrews 10:1-17 ). -
The mission was a failure then but one day in the future, the whole nation will be saved in one day.Originally posted by Icemoon:Good point!
But then the mission to save the Jews turn out to be a failure.
Their failure bcomes our blessing! The gentiles who didnt know God or seek God became God's children. Hallelujah! Bless the name of the Lord! Praise God Almighty! All glory & honour & power belong to You alone! Great is Your Name & greatly to be praised!
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I think u think too much.Originally posted by Icemoon:If I do not think .. I would have been baptized long ago liao.
Go and think about it. 
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Why are poeple so interested in this "salvation" concept.
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they care too much whether King David is saved but they never ponder about their own salvation.Originally posted by shade343:Why are poeple so interested in this "salvation" concept.
salvation to them is a theory step by step. once u miss a step or believe in a wrong historical fact ur salvation is screwed. -
Then what do you suggest we be interested about? Money? Enlightenment? Meaninglessness? Tell me about it.Originally posted by shade343:Why are poeple so interested in this "salvation" concept.