jesus a jew
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note: no offence to anyone
i read from somewhere tat jesus is a jew. so does tat means tat he is a follower of judaism? i really dun understand wat it means.. can anyone explain??
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Jesus is of Mixed blood descent. Jew is one of them.
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brother u ri right.Originally posted by monoslayer:note: no offence to anyone
i read from somewhere tat jesus is a jew. so does tat means tat he is a follower of judaism? i really dun understand wat it means.. can anyone explain??
Yeshua is a Jew and since young He was brought up in the ways of Yaweh.
He was circumcised on the 8th day after birth and taught the Torah. -
so u mean he actually have a religion?? so is he a follower of judaism?? *scratch head*Originally posted by NT2:brother u ri right.
Yeshua is a Jew and since young He was brought up in the ways of Yaweh.
He was circumcised on the 8th day after birth and taught the Torah. -
Jesus is a Jew, and Christianity actually started off as an offshoot of Judaism.Originally posted by monoslayer:so u mean he actually have a religion?? so is he a follower of judaism?? *scratch head* -
Yes. Boy Jesus went to the Jewish temple when he was 12 to celebrate a Jewish Feast and was left behind by His parents.Originally posted by monoslayer:so u mean he actually have a religion?? so is he a follower of judaism?? *scratch head*
Later His parents came back and found Him debating the Law with the Rabbi.
Judaism is consistent with Christianity. The only thing that Judaism does not suscribe to until now is that Jesus (Yeshua) being the Anointed One, Messiah promised since the Old Testament days. -
Judaism is not consistent with Christianity. Jews deny the Trinity.
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isn't that what he said?Originally posted by Icemoon:Judaism is not consistent with Christianity. Jews deny the Trinity. -
that was not what he said. The Messiah and Godhead are different issues altogether.Originally posted by breytonhartge:isn't that what he said? -
the jews do not believe in the trinity and rightly so. Because does it not say the Lord our God is ONE? not three? If you get where I am coming from? The connotation of the trinity is like having 3 gods... but actually the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three aspects of God. More like water would be a better example... we have gas, liquid and solid... all different states but the same element.. .likewise with Yahweh...Originally posted by Icemoon:that was not what he said. The Messiah and Godhead are different issues altogether. -
and what are the other parts to Yeshua?Originally posted by shade343:Jesus is of Mixed blood descent. Jew is one of them. -
bro the illustration of the Trinity using water is a bit risky....Originally posted by breytonhartge:the jews do not believe in the trinity and rightly so. Because does it not say the Lord our God is ONE? not three? If you get where I am coming from? The connotation of the trinity is like having 3 gods... but actually the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three aspects of God. More like water would be a better example... we have gas, liquid and solid... all different states but the same element.. .likewise with Yahweh...
liquid, solid and gases states of water do not exist at the same time except for one point in phase equilibrium. rather the 3 distinct Persons co-exists but ONE God.
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If jesus and god r one, then a lot of comments jesus made become funny since he claims he is son of god when he is actually god, god tell him to die and he grieves and he talk to himself when he is baptised etc
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you can say what you want .. but the fact that Jesus acted and thought separate from God does not help at all.Originally posted by breytonhartge:the jews do not believe in the trinity and rightly so. Because does it not say the Lord our God is ONE? not three? If you get where I am coming from? The connotation of the trinity is like having 3 gods... but actually the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three aspects of God. More like water would be a better example... we have gas, liquid and solid... all different states but the same element.. .likewise with Yahweh... -
He did?Originally posted by Icemoon:you can say what you want .. but the fact that Jesus acted and thought separate from God does not help at all. 
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bro... that is also risky... hence you see why the problem with the idea of the trinity... actually there is a temperature where all 3 states of water can exist together if I remember my physics...Originally posted by NT2:bro the illustration of the Trinity using water is a bit risky....
liquid, solid and gases states of water do not exist at the same time except for one point in phase equilibrium. rather the 3 distinct Persons co-exists but ONE God. -
Yes there is...Originally posted by breytonhartge:bro... that is also risky... hence you see why the problem with the idea of the trinity... actually there is a temperature where all 3 states of water can exist together if I remember my physics...
But you using the faulty analogy of water to show that Trinity is therefore faulty? Backwards reasoning leh.... -
You have no idea you are speaking of one of the most difficult theology of Christianity, do you? Do not dismiss it like primary school maths.Originally posted by stupidissmart:If jesus and god r one, then a lot of comments jesus made become funny since he claims he is son of god when he is actually god, god tell him to die and he grieves and he talk to himself when he is baptised etc
1. Son of God is the second godhead of the Trinity, and divine. No contradiction, when Jesus said he is the Son of God.
2. 'God tell him to die'? Sounds very wrong. Jesus is divine himself. His will is according to the Father's. No contradiction.
3. 'He talk to himself'? Sounds very wrong again. He was communicating to the Father in heaven.
Yet throughout all these, there remains only ONE God. I know my explantions do not suffice, but if you had bothered to know the truth, you would not have dismissed it so quickly. -
Yes, but I would say he fulfils Judaism instead of simply follow it.Originally posted by monoslayer:note: no offence to anyone
i read from somewhere tat jesus is a jew. so does tat means tat he is a follower of judaism? i really dun understand wat it means.. can anyone explain?? -
1. There are other instances where Son or Sons of God are used to describe something else. Please acknowledge that.Originally posted by SocialOutcast:You have no idea you are speaking of one of the most difficult theology of Christianity, do you? Do not dismiss it like primary school maths.
1. Son of God is the second godhead of the Trinity, and divine. No contradiction, when Jesus said he is the Son of God.
2. 'God tell him to die'? Sounds very wrong. Jesus is divine himself. His will is according to the Father's. No contradiction.
3. 'He talk to himself'? Sounds very wrong again. He was communicating to the Father in heaven.
Yet throughout all these, there remains only ONE God. I know my explantions do not suffice, but if you had bothered to know the truth, you would not have dismissed it so quickly.
2. His will is according to the Father's? Please acknowledge that Jesus prayed for the cup to be removed from him.
3. He also said no one knows when the End will come except His Father in heaven. -
He prayed for the cup to be removed from him.Originally posted by breytonhartge:He did?
Who was he praying to?
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the FatherOriginally posted by Icemoon:He prayed for the cup to be removed from him.
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so the father is what boiling point?Originally posted by breytonhartge:but actually the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three aspects of God. More like water would be a better example... we have gas, liquid and solid... all different states but the same element.. .likewise with Yahweh... -
I think icemoon make a good reply It is no secret tat jesus has been communicating with god throughout the NT.
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At that time Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. 10As Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw heaven being torn open and the Spirit descending on him like a dove. 11And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased."
Now pray tell me. How can Jesus and god be one ? If he is, then god must be mad to say he is his own son ? If u say Jesus is a "second godhead" of the trinity, then is obviously shown tat trinity made of 3 types of "godhead" but they r not the same. U need to know the meaning of "same". They must have completely no difference at all. If there is a difference, no matter how slight, then they r not the same and one One a father and one a son is already a good sign to show they r not the same -
yes. so you have helped me ans Brey's question - Jesus indeed thought and acted separately from the Father.Originally posted by NT2:the Father