The gospel is not christian....
-
In response to Socialoutcast's post... lets try this... the gospel is not christian, but the gospel is jewish... unless you leave the christian ways which are not connected to the bible, you will still be wandering the desert. Seriously. All the twelve apostles were Jewish and they knew the Torah, and they had power because they knew the word. Unless one leaves the land that you know, you cannot inherit the new land that Yahweh is preparing for us.
Yahweh has given us a new way to worship. We cannot apply the old ways of idol worship to the way we worship Yahweh... which is exactly what is happening in the christian mindset.
The gospel that is life is not christian, the chirstian faith is more connected to death than it is to life. The gospel is israeli. Glory to Yahweh that the gospel is not christian.
I am not saying to get rid of the bible or the gospels, or the new birth, or the holy spirit, or salvation by faith in Yeshua, but we have to get rid of the christian mindset. We have to delve into the bible and go back to the roots, and compare this to what the "church" is about today keeping in mind that for the first century or so, there was no new testament and all the new believers had was the old testament.
Go and dismantle the old mindset and start afresh. Don't worry that it might explode, but Yahweh can heal... and at least the old mindset does not harm anyone else anymore... the christian mindset is a deathtrap. It has killed more people than it has brought alive, I am not talking about the gospel, I am talking about christianity, let us make clear this distinction. Even Shaul was not preaching christianity, he was preaching the word and the signs and wonders followed him... Shaul was preaching relationship with Yahweh, and not a religious system which is what christianity is.
Get the word of Yahweh into you, and not "christian" theology. It is not through christianity, but through the Jewish Messiah of Yeshua Hamashiach that we get saved.
Yahweh will take you to a land that He will show you. You don't know that land yet, but unless you leave the old, you cannot know the new. Leave christianity and come back to the word. None of the religious systems can work. Yeshua is the word of Yahweh made flesh, come back to the word and leave the old lands.
Many times we are afraid to leave our land or to leave the old because we are afraid of losing something. But unless we leave the old, we will stay small. Yahweh wants to bless us but we have to know the truth and so it shall set us free, free to walk our new land and our greater blessings. Do we dare to leave the old land so that Yahweh can show us His land? -
The gospel is universal .. addressed to Jewish and Gentile audience.
-
how sure r u?Originally posted by Icemoon:The gospel is universal .. addressed to Jewish and Gentile audience. -
as sure as the authenticity of the gospel.Originally posted by Solid_Snake:how sure r u? -
yoroshii desu....i salute uOriginally posted by Icemoon:as sure as the authenticity of the gospel. -
Arigatou gozaimasu.Originally posted by Solid_Snake:yoroshii desu....i salute u -
I look at it in another angle......Originally posted by breytonhartge:Many times we are afraid to leave our land or to leave the old because we are afraid of losing something. But unless we leave the old, we will stay small. Yahweh wants to bless us but we have to know the truth and so it shall set us free, free to walk our new land and our greater blessings. Do we dare to leave the old land so that Yahweh can show us His land?
We have left the old land (Jewish worship) and have allowed God to show us His land (Christian worship)
Seems you are advocating that we leave the new land and go back to the old....
Just a thought.......
-
I look at yet another angle.
Gospel originates from African Americans.
-
Gospel are of Jewish faith,Yahweh Adonai Malkuth. I read a gospel before, it is Gospel of Barnabas.
-
gnostic gospel is not written by the disciples...n it is not recognise as part of the gospelOriginally posted by White_Wolf_Thunder:Gospel are of Jewish faith,Yahweh Adonai Malkuth. I read a gospel before, it is Gospel of Barnabas. -
Hi Sir,which are gnostic?Originally posted by Sir_Horny:gnostic gospel is not written by the disciples...n it is not recognise as part of the gospel
Written by the disciples mean written by humans so it is recognised by God.
What recognition do you seek?
Look within rather than externally, you will see more. -
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnostic_gospelsOriginally posted by White_Wolf_Thunder:Hi Sir,which are gnostic?
Written by the disciples mean written by humans so it is recognised by God.
What recognition do you seek?
Look within rather than externally, you will see more.
The Gnostic Gospels are a class of writings about the life of Jesus which are associated with the early mystical trend of Gnostic Christianity. They are not accepted by mainstream Christianity as authentic, therefore declared heresy and not included in the standard Biblical canon. Rather, they are part of the so-called New Testament apocrypha.
The Gnostics were named from the term "Gnosis", a Greek word for knowledge. Gnostic philosophy and religious movements began in pre-Christian times. After the Crucifixion, the name "Christian Gnostics" came to represent a specific section of the Christian community who believed the path to spirituality was not simply worshipping Christ, but in each person gaining knowledge and insight of the spiritual nature within themselves, thus gaining a spiritual enlightenment. This community blends the teachings of Jesus Christ with a variety of other beliefs.
The documents known as the Gnostic Gospels were not discovered as a complete book, rather through a number of various finds. The Nag Hammdi was discovered accidentally by two farmers in December 1945 and was named for the area in Egypt where it was discovered. Other documents are also included in what we now know as the "Gnostic Gospels", but were found at different times or in different locations, such as the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, which was recovered in 1896 as part of the Akhmim Codex, and published in 1955. Some documents were duplicated in different finds, and for others (such as the Gospel of Mary Magdalene), only one copy as yet is known to exist. -
Adding the latest find, the Gospel of Judas
Frankly, I think they are better subjects to discuss than DVC. -
Thanks for info.Originally posted by Chin Eng:From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnostic_gospels
The Gnostic Gospels are a class of writings about the life of Jesus which are associated with the early mystical trend of Gnostic Christianity. They are not accepted by mainstream Christianity as authentic, therefore declared heresy and not included in the standard Biblical canon. Rather, they are part of the so-called New Testament apocrypha.
The Gnostics were named from the term "Gnosis", a Greek word for knowledge. Gnostic philosophy and religious movements began in pre-Christian times. After the Crucifixion, the name "Christian Gnostics" came to represent a specific section of the Christian community who believed the path to spirituality was not simply worshipping Christ, but in each person gaining knowledge and insight of the spiritual nature within themselves, thus gaining a spiritual enlightenment. This community blends the teachings of Jesus Christ with a variety of other beliefs.
The documents known as the Gnostic Gospels were not discovered as a complete book, rather through a number of various finds. The Nag Hammdi was discovered accidentally by two farmers in December 1945 and was named for the area in Egypt where it was discovered. Other documents are also included in what we now know as the "Gnostic Gospels", but were found at different times or in different locations, such as the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, which was recovered in 1896 as part of the Akhmim Codex, and published in 1955. Some documents were duplicated in different finds, and for others (such as the Gospel of Mary Magdalene), only one copy as yet is known to exist.
I am not looking into Gnosis. I am asking which is that of gnostic in my previous reply. -
very ambigious statement. u've basically told me u're not sure one single bit thenOriginally posted by Icemoon:as sure as the authenticity of the gospel.
-
gospel of barnabasOriginally posted by White_Wolf_Thunder:Thanks for info.
I am not looking into Gnosis. I am asking which is that of gnostic in my previous reply. -
This topic is about gospel.Originally posted by Solid_Snake:gospel of barnabas
I just mentioned i read one, gospel of barnabas before.
I don't see anything wrong. -
i never said it was wrong....neither did anyone hereOriginally posted by White_Wolf_Thunder:This topic is about gospel.
I just mentioned i read one, gospel of barnabas before.
I don't see anything wrong. -
It is not you. I never said so.Originally posted by Solid_Snake:i never said it was wrong....neither did anyone here -
care to share wat is written in the gospel of barnabas?
-
not really because to the Jewish, I would ask them to leave their old rabbinical lands and see the new land that Messiah wants to bring them to...Originally posted by Chin Eng:I look at it in another angle......
We have left the old land (Jewish worship) and have allowed God to show us His land (Christian worship)
Seems you are advocating that we leave the new land and go back to the old....
Just a thought....... -
I only know the gospel belongs to me and is meant for me.
Selfish me.....yeah, i know.
-
I crafted my reply in such a way that it cannot be immediately attacked.Originally posted by HENG@:very ambigious statement. u've basically told me u're not sure one single bit then -
Originally posted by Icemoon:I crafted my reply in such a way that it cannot be immediately attacked.
-
For heaven's sake....