Church spending disillusion many- where's the governance?
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Originally posted by vince69:*useless lah, infrared detected your body heat liao... and pls come out from the compost heap.
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Why force me.....
ok, i'll go mount sinai... -
spoil sport ><Originally posted by laurence82:Serious pls -
Ok, back to SIS debate.
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*scent hounds pick up MC's scent... send infomation back to base... and place tracking device secretly on MC....*Originally posted by M©+square: Why force me.....
ok, i'll go mount sinai...
*brey switches on GPS tracking system... ah ha.... located MC* -
in the words of monty phyton... and now for something completely different...Originally posted by M©+square:Ok, back to SIS debate.
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You guys forced me to.....
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i came into this thread... and these were the first things i see ... almost fell off my roller chairOriginally posted by laurence82:You guys forced me to..... -
admit it... you wanted to... don't give lame excuses...Originally posted by laurence82:You guys forced me to.....
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errr... are you ok????Originally posted by ben1xy:i came into this thread... and these were the first things i see ... almost fell off my roller chair -
I am still waiting for a serious answer, what is consider an exotic car? price? what range? ...etcOriginally posted by laurence82:Serious pls
BMW for instance.. the price of that for an M6 and that for a 3 series are a lot of difference, where an M6 maybe consider an exotic car, a normal 3 Series may not be...
why an I asking this.... the reason is, at the begining, the question is can/should a pastor drive an exotic car? no pastor was named, no church was named, no car make was named... no example given...
btw, where is thethread starter, sporty123 ? -
I think I cannot answer for first questionOriginally posted by vince69:I am still waiting for a serious answer, what is consider an exotic car? price? what range? ...etc
BMW for instance.. the price of that for an M6 and that for a 3 series are a lot of difference, where an M6 maybe consider an exotic car, a normal 3 Series may not be...
why an I asking this.... the reason is, at the begining, the question is can/should a pastor drive an exotic car? no pastor was named, no church was named, no car make was named... no example given...
But why would you want to name the pastor or church?
Not naming the pastor or church is the only way we can discuss this issue without bias -
pretty muchOriginally posted by breytonhartge:errr... are you ok????
juz that i thought i entered the wrong forum
Brey, r u in aussie now? this is a cold winter!! -
thought I gave you an answer a few pages back...Originally posted by vince69:I am still waiting for a serious answer, what is consider an exotic car? price? what range? ...etc
BMW for instance.. the price of that for an M6 and that for a 3 series are a lot of difference, where an M6 maybe consider an exotic car, a normal 3 Series may not be...
why an I asking this.... the reason is, at the begining, the question is can/should a pastor drive an exotic car? no pastor was named, no church was named, no car make was named... no example given...
how much is a normal 3? about $160K? expensive enough? the thing is whether the pastor drives a european car vs whether he drives a jap or korean car... i think...
exotic cars... depends on what you consider exotic... a jaguar XJR? rolls royce... bentley? the there are the usual ferrari, lambo... porsche?
Then if you consider jap cars... exotic could mean nissan skyline GTR, toyota supra, nissan 300ZX, Lancer Evo. honda NSX...? -
You back in Aust already?Originally posted by ben1xy:i came into this thread... and these were the first things i see ... almost fell off my roller chair
Anyway, for your info, I think it was last year.
There was this ST article about extravagant looking churches. I think St Mary of Bukit Batok, which is near my house and which my cousin goes to, was featured because they had this private swimming pool for the priest. -
yeah... its about 3 deg where I am at the moment...Originally posted by ben1xy:pretty much
juz that i thought i entered the wrong forum
Brey, r u in aussie now? this is a cold winter!! -
I cant stop the discussion physically, but if I can give people heart attacks..why not?Originally posted by breytonhartge:admit it... you wanted to... don't give lame excuses... 
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yup! back in good old sydneyOriginally posted by laurence82:You back in Aust already?
Anyway, for your info, I think it was last year.
There was this ST article about extravagant looking churches. I think St Mary of Bukit Batok, which is near my house and which my cousin goes to, was featured because they had this private swimming pool for the priest.
ohh.. i dunno much abt St MAry's, coz i live in hougang. my grandma used to attend St MAry's though, i like the Franciscans there (those that wear an attire not dissimilar to the Jedi's) -
my meaning is, the information is too general liao...Originally posted by laurence82:I think I cannot answer for first question
But why would you want to name the pastor or church?
Not naming the pastor or church is the only way we can discuss this issue without bias
anyway, doesn't matter
what is more important is this...
according to the threadstarter (his standard), what is too much for a pastor to have? is the church he is mentioning paying these luxury for the pastor or the pastor paying them himself? -
i shall not complain then... here is around 14Originally posted by breytonhartge:yeah... its about 3 deg where I am at the moment...
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last lineOriginally posted by vince69:my meaning is, the information is too general liao...
anyway, doesn't matter
what is more important is this...
according to the threadstarter (his standard), what is too much for a pastor to have? is the church he is mentioning paying these luxury for the pastor or the pastor paying them himself?
either way, the money comes from the church's funds
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what is the temperature there... the record I had there was -4degree near BlacktownOriginally posted by ben1xy:yup! back in good old sydney
ohh.. i dunno much abt St MAry's, coz i live in hougang. my grandma used to attend St MAry's though, i like the Franciscans there (those that wear an attire not dissimilar to the Jedi's) -
woah! that's way too cold for me!!Originally posted by vince69:what is the temperature there... the record I had there was -4degree near Blacktown
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smacks ah lau....Originally posted by laurence82:I cant stop the discussion physically, but if I can give people heart attacks..why not? -
ok the rest of you play nice...I am going to bed... good night all!
