God and a barber
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Hmm, I am not sure your case includes all of the possible arguments as to hell being nothing but a 'threat'.
FRankly I am not very sure about your question and I am not even sure whether r u refering to me or not. -
The Genesis story stated very clearly that God created the heavens and the earth and there was no mention of hell. Hell is simple separation from God and cessation of life on death as opposed to life in the Kingdom of God.
Jesus said, "except a man be born of water and of the spirit... John 3:5" If you were never born of the spirit, your life ends with death of the flesh. Why would God want to create a place "hell?" Hell the place is indeed an empty threat. -
Hi everyone..
i am rather interested in your topic on believing n not believing in God..
For you information, i am a freethinker..
but my concept of GOD is rather very different.
Cos I believe all things happen for a reason.. either by Man's free Will or by His(GOD) Will.
The rest are just things said or "created" by human's imagination. -
wow your 1st post
If you are not a clone, welcome. 
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God works through man....Originally posted by TheLoner:Hi everyone..
i am rather interested in your topic on believing n not believing in God..
For you information, i am a freethinker..
but my concept of GOD is rather very different.
Cos I believe all things happen for a reason.. either by Man's free Will or by His(GOD) Will.
The rest are just things said or "created" by human's imagination. -
bullshit...think u never read the bible....Originally posted by casino_king:The Genesis story stated very clearly that God created the heavens and the earth and there was no mention of hell. Hell is simple separation from God and cessation of life on death as opposed to life in the Kingdom of God.
Jesus said, "except a man be born of water and of the spirit... John 3:5" If you were never born of the spirit, your life ends with death of the flesh. Why would God want to create a place "hell?" Hell the place is indeed an empty threat. -
Why the heavens is plural ah?Originally posted by casino_king:The Genesis story stated very clearly that God created the heavens and the earth and there was no mention of hell. Hell is simple separation from God and cessation of life on death as opposed to life in the Kingdom of God.
There are many levels like in Buddhism?
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there are three heavens Icemoon.Originally posted by Icemoon:Why the heavens is plural ah?
There are many levels like in Buddhism?
First, the immediate atmospheric heaven that we know.
Second, the cosmic heaveans, that is space where planets and galaxies abound.
The third is the abode of God, where Paradise is. Yes, Paradise is a physical place. This is where the Lord Jesus ascended to.
2Co 12:2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago--whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows--such a one was caught up to the third heaven. -
I am not a clone.. i just like to read and not comment much..
But for this topic.. i am a little be interested..
Let me ask a question..
If GOD is almighty.. why does he have to warn you about the so call Satan..
My Concept of "GOD" is he is the almighty being that is causing every single thing that is happening to every single person..
he is just like a Rule controller.. For every human action, there is a related reaction. But there are times, he will give special reaction to some action made..That is what we human called Miracle.. -
Why is it that the number of posts under your nick on the left is again 2? Strange.Originally posted by TheLoner:I am not a clone.. i just like to read and not comment much..
But for this topic.. i am a little be interested..
Let me ask a question..
If GOD is almighty.. why does he have to warn you about the so call Satan..
My Concept of "GOD" is he is the almighty being that is causing every single thing that is happening to every single person..
he is just like a Rule controller.. For every human action, there is a related reaction. But there are times, he will give special reaction to some action made..That is what we human called Miracle..
God is almighty, that is why God can "choose not to."
God allows "every single thing that is happening to every single person.."
"he is just like a Rule controller.. " God set the rules governing the universe if that is what you meant.
"For every human action, there is a related reaction." Yes and no, like if you jump down from a high place, you do not necessarily die. Depends on how high, what you jumped onto....
"But there are times, he will give special reaction to some action made..That is what we human called Miracle.." God like you said is almighty... He can choose not to but He can also choose to. God mostly choose not to. God choose to depend on man. It is what gives meaning to man's life. The more your life in in tune with God's purpose for you on this earth; the more meaningful your life is.
God is spirit and to understand and know what God wants from you in this life, you must be born of the spirit... this is the mystery that Jesus talked about when Jesus said, you must be born again. -
Can u tell everyone wat is your "born again" experience in detail ? I am just curious why it seems to be the only thing u care about.
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It is all in the bible. you seem familiar with the bible.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Can u tell everyone wat is your "born again" experience in detail ? I am just curious why it seems to be the only thing u care about.
Like the Buddhists in sgforums say: You look at the moon (born again, born of spirit) and not the finger (bible) pointing to the moon.
If you cannot believe Jesus, what can my words do?
John 3:12 If I told you earthly things and you don't believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? -
my impression is tat u have personally experienced it. Your personal experience may be totally different from others so reading the bible is irrelevant to your experience. So I am asking wat have u experienced. U keep telling other to go for the personal experience thingy. Don't worry about whether I believe or not. There r possible many readers out there so some of them may believe
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I do not wish to add to more dogma. I am telling you that it is pointless to compare notes. It is an incredibly personal thing and if you experienced it, you know. Just like unless you reached puberty and have had sex; you cannot understand what people are talking about. So I prefer to use Jesus' words as recorded in the Bible and encourage people to experience it for themselves. The Buddhists will hate me for saying this, actually it is what the are looking for. Nevertheless, I am of the opinion that sincere Buddhists will receive revelations from God directly. The Bible said many times in many places that God does reveal Himself to seekers but they "refuse." Now it turns out that Christians similarly "refuse." They insist on looking at the finger and holding on to the finger that is pointing to the moon.Originally posted by stupidissmart:my impression is tat u have personally experienced it. Your personal experience may be totally different from others so reading the bible is irrelevant to your experience. So I am asking wat have u experienced. U keep telling other to go for the personal experience thingy. Don't worry about whether I believe or not. There r possible many readers out there so some of them may believe -
Oh come on, u can at least try to describe the experience. U consider it as the ultimate truth so u should be proud to tell others wat u have experience so they know wat is the experience. Then after u r "born again", wat then ? Wat difference r u from before ? U have the power and wisdom to rewrite the bible and follow watever u like ?
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I have experienced many of the experiences recorded in the Bible. Because I have experienced it, I can tell you what was written meant. I will have to refer you back to the Bible. I have no wish to "rewrite the bible and follow watever I like."Originally posted by stupidissmart:Oh come on, u can at least try to describe the experience. U consider it as the ultimate truth so u should be proud to tell others wat u have experience so they know wat is the experience. Then after u r "born again", wat then ? Wat difference r u from before ? U have the power and wisdom to rewrite the bible and follow watever u like ?
You do not have to believe me. Jesus died for your sake, I did not. Believe Him. -
I have experienced many of the experiences recorded in the Bible. Because I have experienced it, I can tell you what was written meant. I will have to refer you back to the Bible.
Really ? But if I am not wrong the people in the bible tat have a really communicating god cn perform some form of miracles. One of them give birth to a heir at an old age while another can split the red sea. Do u have such talents ? By saying u know wat is written meant, does tat means only u in tis whole world can interprete the bible ? -
LOLOriginally posted by stupidissmart:Can u tell everyone wat is your "born again" experience in detail ? I am just curious why it seems to be the only thing u care about. -
On the topic of Born Again - CK against everyone, including SIS.
On the topic of God - SIS against everyone, including CK.
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On the subject of Worldcup2006, Ah lau is providing popcorns at the lounge.Originally posted by Icemoon:On the topic of Born Again - CK against everyone, including SIS.
On the topic of God - SIS against everyone, including CK. 
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Originally posted by Icemoon:On the topic of Born Again - CK against everyone, including SIS.
On the topic of God - SIS against everyone, including CK. actually quite fun exchanges..... suddenly most of us are redundant already. -
I'm at a loss whom to support.Originally posted by Chin Eng: actually quite fun exchanges..... suddenly most of us are redundant already.